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Even beyond all the stuff with the Kurds, figure at this point there's plenty of ISIS commanders shouting "Trumpu Akbar!" because of all this. To themselves, anyway.
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The dril of ISIS has a tweet saying you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to Trump."
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ISIS should recognize Trump as a second founder.
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Taerkar posted:ISIS should recognize Trump as a second founder. There goes Trump, trying to one up Obama again
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frajaq posted:lol this is just sad no, if Russians aren't going to turn that into a totally rad motorbike jump ramp then that would be sad
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cargo cult posted:so the extent to which the US "created" ISIS or al nusra or whatever was limited to turning iraq into a lawless incubator for jihadis? I mean yeah basically. Qatar and Assad also deserve a lot of credit. Qatar was always the most eager in the Gulf to give guns to insane religious freaks and before the civil war Assad was real lackadaisical about sheltering Iraqi and Lebanese militias which would later go on to join the opposition. I'm not sure what you mean by prophylaxis but those countries did supply a lot weapons to anti-Assad rebels, including a lot that would end up joining al nusra or ISIS. Early on the US was pretty tolerant of this, but even at the beginning there was a concerted effort to funnel weapons to moderate (well, moderate compared to al Qaeda) rebels. They also tried to help the moderates organize into a strong unified power, but that effort ultimately fell to jealous infighting and under pressure from radicals. While the US tolerated (or maybe couldn't stop?) money and arms flowing from the Gulf to radicals it was always at least working in the background to prevent money going first to al Qaeda and later ISIS. Islamic finance is notoriously difficult to track, and deals with the Gulf Monarchies notoriously opaque, but there was a lot of politicking and backroom dealing involved.
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mediadave posted:Yeah, the Russians are having fun playing around in the US base at Manbij. lol...this is the culmination of US Special Forces stay in Syria, apparently. Warming the bed for the Russians to roll into without much of a hitch.
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Taerkar posted:ISIS should recognize Trump as a second founder. No one, and I mean no one, establishes a caliphate like me, believe me.
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Conspiratiorist posted:Just for clarification: those are journalists, and that's a checkpoint. Here's the propaganda reel https://twitter.com/DionNissenbaum/status/1184157051594903553?s=20
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skylined! posted:Here's the propaganda reel Highlight: 
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skylined! posted:Here's the propaganda reel Hellmarch, heck yea
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Well this is unexpected, according to some reports turkey just destroyed a major SAA convoy and may have killed hundreds of syrian troops. If this is true it essentially means that Turkey is slamming its foot down and taking manbij whether assad likes it or not:- https://twitter.com/3z0ooz/status/1184182144941338624?s=21 https://twitter.com/3z0ooz/status/1184173329177088004?s=21 https://twitter.com/3z0ooz/status/1184175634228088833 Reports coming from assad regime sources that upwards of 300 troops and multiple tanks have been destroyed. It looks like Erdogan is really serious about taking Manbij. Al-Saqr fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Sinteres posted:Another report making a very similar claim about bombing a regime convoy elsewhere in the north was just marked as fake, so I'd be pretty skeptical about this claim too. makes sense, better wait for verification.
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Al-Saqr posted:Well this is unexpected, according to some reports turkey just destroyed a major SAA convoy and may have killed hundreds of syrian troops. If this is true it essentially means that Turkey is slamming its foot down and taking manbij whether assad likes it or not:- Holy poo poo, are they actually going to slug it out? What are the odds that this is a errant effort by the military and that Erdogan and Putin / Assad actually had a deal in the first place? None? Taking out a mechanized armor column is one hell of an escalation. Edit: Yeah god I’m hoping that’s fake.
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Al-Saqr posted:Well this is unexpected, according to some reports turkey just destroyed a major SAA convoy and may have killed hundreds of syrian troops. If this is true it essentially means that Turkey is slamming its foot down and taking manbij whether assad likes it or not:-
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Thump! posted:Holy poo poo, are they actually going to slug it out? maybe Putin is acting as a referee? like winking at Erdogan to be like "Hey as long as you dont hurt russians do what you gotta do for your safe zone"? But in any case, let's first make sure the reports are true before we go bananas.
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The US Congress will press ahead with a broad package of sanctions on Turkey, including cutting military support, after measures announced by the Trump administration were dismissed as ineffective, Senate officials have confirmed. The Senate bill would restrictive measures on Turkey’s political leadership and Turkey’s domestic energy sector. It would also prohibit US military support to Turkey, a Nato ally. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/15/turkey-syria-congress-trump-sanctions
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Sinteres posted:The US Congress will press ahead with a broad package of sanctions on Turkey, including cutting military support, after measures announced by the Trump administration were dismissed as ineffective, Senate officials have confirmed. This is the chaos timeline, so I guess we'll end up with the US loving over both the Kurds and the Turks after all's said and done.
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Cerebral Bore posted:This is the chaos timeline, so I guess we'll end up with the US loving over both the Kurds and the Turks after all's said and done. I’ll be a believer when we manage to somehow gently caress the Saudis and Israelis over with all this.
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Thump! posted:I’ll be a believer when we manage to somehow gently caress the Saudis and Israelis over with all this. Turkey annexing northrrn syria will gently caress israel and saudi arabia.
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That Turkish Air Force bombs SAA seems false to me since the Syrians and Turks are suppose to be in communication. https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/stat...ingawful.com%2F Especially now that Russian forces are in the city. https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/stat...ingawful.com%2F
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Erdogan is a lot like Trump in that he's very self absorbed, very self-interested above all else, and deeply paranoid. Probably way less literally dementiaed though, as far as anyone knows.Conspiratiorist posted:Glad to see homophobia remains alive and well on are troops. i have bad news for you about the moral fiber of us sof Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Grape posted:lol "Welcome to the party, Erdie. You don't know what the gently caress Trump is doing? Neither does anybody else. Especially him."
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CrazyLoon posted:Russian Air Force doing more in one week than USAF to protect US allies lmao...this really is a mess. If anyone can bring the people together, it’s Erdogan.
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