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Zereth posted:EDIT: and, yeah, you can just... leave Baruuk for later? i 100% do not understand why you put him at rank 2 I actively hate Toroid farming
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Baruuk is pretty forgettable, you can just ignore he. Ungh anyway been still working on the alt khora helmet. Slow progress because I'd been taking shortcuts that just bit me in the rear end later, so spent time properly setting everything up.  And goofing around
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Oct 15, 2019 10:42
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Also, further explanation: Baruuk requires max Solaris United rep, and 3/5th Vox Solaris rep, which means you could, with patience get Hildryn and Khora well before him. Only Harrow is iffy, as it requires a perfect spy mission from a later area, but one you'll probably get to before even unlocking Vox Solaris, and farming Harrow can also get you Ash if you can't seem to get him. Of those three, Hildryn requires the closest amount of work as Baruuk, but the Exploiter Orb fight is actually fun, and getting Beef Mama from it actually feels like a reward, where Baruuk just sits in a cupboard behind Little Duck. So in terms of frames I'd not bother with grinding out, it's #2.
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Oct 15, 2019 10:53
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Hildryn is also sitting in a cupboard behind Little Duck (or at least a quarter of her is), just a rank lower.
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Oct 15, 2019 11:17
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hildryn would be a pretty bad frame for a new player just to point out
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Oct 15, 2019 11:23
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what why? all you need to make hild work is a lv6 shield mod and a decent weapon, she's incredibly sturdy and easy to play, and "hide behind a corner to get more shield" is much less annoying than recasting ironskin you might now have energy for
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As someone who have never bought any frame or weapon, I'd say just play the game do the quests. If something looks to daunting or grindy just do something else. You can always come back and do those things later, or skip them with plat if you just can't stand it. Skipping everything with plat is a good way to get incredibly bored with the game quickly.
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Truga posted:what why? all you need to make hild work is a lv6 shield mod and a decent weapon, she's incredibly sturdy and easy to play, and "hide behind a corner to get more shield" is much less annoying than recasting ironskin you might now have energy for The MR 25 test is annoying because getting on an archwing means you have to recast ironskin, and you won't have enough energy. 
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Sandweed posted:As someone who have never bought any frame or weapon, I'd say just play the game do the quests. If something looks to daunting or grindy just do something else. You can always come back and do those things later, or skip them with plat if you just can't stand it. Yeah, that's the best advice IMO. I have like 800h in the game, and my only advice for someone starting out is "play the game if you like how it plays, don't worry about crafting poo poo, literally everything worthwhile in the game comes with vacuum + some game time, because warframe has the best loot system in video games". I still don't give a poo poo about most things, and just about the only resource I've ever purposefully farmed is argon, because gently caress argon. For everything else, I just play the game with friends, and eventually the resources have piled up into mountains of bullshit in an off-screen infinite warehouse I never have to interact with. Also, every time I go play another game after a long warframe stint, I get pissed off by the constant need to janitor the inventory. OTOH, my way playing by never ever checking what's in my inventory has downsides. I'm probably sitting on thousands of platinum in various parts/relics/mods/etc. On the other other hand, since I've only ever spent platinum on weapon/frame slots and a few cosmetics, getting $20 worth of platinum at -75% twice has me covered for another year. That's $40 total in like 6 years of playing, some absolutely amazing bang for buck there. e: I should probably point out, I have one of every warframe except 3 and a bunch of primes, and one of every weapon except some event/prime ones, crafted in my inventory, so that's a fuckton of slots. I'm MR24 and never sold anything. Truga fucked around with this message at 12:28 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Oct 15, 2019 12:19
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Truga posted:Yeah, that's the best advice IMO. I have like 800h in the game, and my only advice for someone starting out is "play the game if you like how it plays, don't worry about crafting poo poo, literally everything worthwhile in the game comes with vacuum + some game time, because warframe has the best loot system in video games". I demand a Primed Vacuum! 
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Sandweed posted:As someone who have never bought any frame or weapon, I'd say just play the game do the quests. If something looks to daunting or grindy just do something else. You can always come back and do those things later, or skip them with plat if you just can't stand it. As someone who also never bought any frame or weapon. gently caress the Harrow grind just buy him. Just gently caress Defection.
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If you do one defection every 3 months, you will get the one drop you need eventually without burning out. Same with Orokin Derelict Surv or Infested Salvage. But as someone once said, getting gear in WF for free is only really free if your time is worthless.
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Oct 15, 2019 14:01
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How are people considering Baruuk a boring frame to skip? He's so good. The actual calculus on buying frames from the market is that a few of them are 75 plat, which means the slot+potato is actually significant so they're really 35 plat to skip the grind+craft, which, not unreasonable.
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Oct 15, 2019 14:05
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I'd say khora is a good buy option. all the parts are a pain to get and then you need to get cat genomes which is super tedious. also, she's a great at a bunch of things and you get to have two cats at once.
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One thing I'd like to recommend to Ytlaya and other recent noobs, being a 1-month noob myself, is to not feel the need to grind grind grind if you don't want to. As another goon eloquently put it, the only thing on the otherside of a Warframe grind is simply more Warframe, and there is so much stuff to get and level that you can afford to take a break on that 1 part you've been grinding. So if you're having bad luck on a few runs and keep not getting the drop you want, just ignore it for a while and come back to it. If you actively make the game frustrating for yourself, you'll burn out fast. I'm like mid-way through farming a bunch of frames and was having bad RNG luck so I'm stuffing it, and just working on the late-game star chart for now. I'll also try some new guns I've got cooking. I'll go back to the frame farming later, just doing a bit here and there when I feel like it (drat you, Ash!!). drat near burned myself out farming Saryn Prime for 5 days straight, and that was already after a kind goon gave me the systems. Shrimp or Shrimps fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Oct 15, 2019 15:30
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There’s an in-depth look at maximizing Kavat code farming here. It was written by people who are into big money Kavat breeding, so their builds are a little overoptimized for the specific purpose of cat farming in a way that I think is unneccesary for the casual player who just wants to build a Khora and a pair of cats, but otherwise I think the guide is sound.
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Anora posted:After that here's my list of Plat frames: The only frames you should drop plat for are maybe Nidus, Harrow and Equinox. The rest are easy enough to get. I don't know why people have so much trouble with Jordas Precept, just slap on corpro and go to town. Also why do so many people have trouble with Glast Gambit??
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Tulip posted:How are people considering Baruuk a boring frame to skip? He's so good. I would like Baruuk more if I didn't have to fill that stupid restraint meter, and his 4 being gated behind it doesn't help.
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Oct 15, 2019 18:22
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Ratoslov posted:Variants of stuff like the Prime Whatever and the Whatever Wraith are entirely different objects from their regular versions in terms of levels, applying forma, exilus slots, and the like. On the whole, this is good because you can get the mastery from it twice. What's the bolded by the way? I have one mod that seems to have the same symbol on it (a thing that does a shockwave when I fall from high), but I'm pretty sure I can equip that mod into other slots as well. I Am Just a Box posted:Most assassination (boss) missions drop parts for a particular Warframe. You would have gotten the Rhino part by fighting the Jackal on Fossa, Venus, and can repeat that mission to get the other parts. Once you have the chassis, neuroptics, and systems from a given assassination, you can buy the blueprint for that warframe from the Market for credits. Make sure to buy the blueprint; there's an option to buy a completed Rhino for platinum, and that's a waste of plat. Speaking of the Jackal, that fight confused me. He literally just stood there doing nothing for most of the fight aside from I think releasing drones. I died a couple times with no clue why (I was at full health/shields when it happened each time), until realizing that I think I was getting one-shot by mines?
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Ytlaya posted:What's the bolded by the way? I have one mod that seems to have the same symbol on it (a thing that does a shockwave when I fall from high), but I'm pretty sure I can equip that mod into other slots as well. Exilus mods can go in any (non-aura) slots, but only exilus mods can go in exilus slots.
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And Tyler Too! posted:I would like Baruuk more if I didn't have to fill that stupid restraint meter, and his 4 being gated behind it doesn't help. I mean it's fair to not like a rhythm of play, but even with that Baruuk is mechanically off the hook, I've gotten 40%+ damage in teams with Saryn as my competition while playing a super tank. I dislike Octavia but I'm not going to call her bad.
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baruuk is really strong and fun but he is definitely not hard enough to get that you should think about buying him with plat.
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Baruuk is dope, leave him alone
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Berke Negri posted:please for the love of god to do not recommend people to spend plat on baruuk This is correct. You're supposed to spend plat on his collection for the Mandala.
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Somebody effortpost about Baruuk, please, because I have not been feeling him. I hate Spy, so I bought Ivara, and still feel ok about that. If a grind makes you break out in hives, pay to skip it.
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is the mandala an orbiter decoration that you try to line up with the nav console?
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Yeah Ivara is another one that's plat-worthy
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aegof posted:Somebody effortpost about Baruuk, please, because I have not been feeling him. phone posting is bad for effort, but here's the core High strength. Serene Storm is your main damage, survival is almost entirely on Desolate Hands, both scale with Strength (and Desolate Hands effectively gets its duration from Strength) Serene Storm only cares about strength, it is unaffected by duration, efficiency, and range. Desolate Hands gets you a trickle of neg restraint but you'll want to use Elude and Lull to pump it fast. Elude can get you a ton very quickly but is very situational (a lot of hits coming in - a fusion moa will build very fast), Lull is easier and thus your main source, you want it to have both range and spammability. So, keep desolate hands at 9 daggers+ when possible, spam Lull when there's a lot of enemies on the minimap, and then hit 4 when you get like half or more neg restraint. Serene Storm makes your melee throw out waves about the size of a train car with I think 15m punch through that 1 shot the vast majority of enemies so that's cool. Here's a quick 1 forma Baruuk https://tennoware.com/warframes/baruuk/12233100000d3050000c005n405y510c105w605w805k505h00500000000/17519 Here's a far less thought out 0 forma Desert Wind https://tennoware.com/meleeweapons/desert%20wind/1011300000q700j505j005i905n503d803f805f905e805v/26868
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this is the baruuk build i use pretty much always this is the absurd tank option. its really not necessary even in arbitrations. i started with adaptation in the first build and took it out because it just isnt needed with how innately tanky he is.  this is the gimmick elude build i never ever use and will probably delete at some point. (just realize i swapped my arcanes on this. you probably want energize if you have it)  fists.  if i do delete the 3rd build i think i can reforma so i get umbral vitality in the first build too but i might not bother since he is already a beast. ideally i would probably forma the exilus slot to get power drift in there but i havent bothered since he came with the dash. natural talent makes playing him feel way better. i played without it for awhile then tried it one day and havent gone back. basically i never use elude, spam 2, keep your daggers up and absolutely murder everything with 4. he is godly in longer missions with high enemy counts. i love using him in disruptions and survivals. Awesome! fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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SSNeoman posted:Yeah Ivara is another one that's plat-worthy I think Ivara's next up for getting a prime? She's close anyway. Edit: if we go off release date, she's next, but they just swapped Wukong and Atlas, so who knows.
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baruuk is great and if you're looking for variety he'll provide that in spades along with being useful for a lot of poo poo in general but at the same time a new player isn't going to immediately have much direct access to getting him and he's not exactly 'essential' in any particular way i mean none of the frames specifically are, it's just that baruuk is less urgent than most
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There is only one truly indispensable frame: Nekros E: I'm not going to judge somebody buying Hildryn/Baruuk that much, purely because going from MR0 to rank 3 VS is going to take forever and if you feel some primordial draw to one of them that would massively improve your experience for weeks, ok. Like I will be harsh about say Trinity or Saryn, because you can get their primes more cheaply, but that's not an option for those two yet. Tulip fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Scrub here, and I was just wondering about what skills makes Ivara and Nekros so overpowered? I know Nekros has the item find, but I found Ivara to be really underwhelming except for her 4 power which seems to one shot everything. Other frames I think I'm playing wrong: Ash, Mesa, the sand king guy that can go kind of invincible. I know they're supposed to be tanky and overpowered, but I'm not sure if I'm playing them wrong, or if I just don't have the right mods to make them OP yet.
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Nekros is OK but yeah mostly for the farming. Ivara has cloak without a duration (though it does drain energy) which is very useful in some cases
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I don't know why Neckros is even on the list besides Leph being kind of a PITA to get to. I guess you can have some fun with Shield of Shadows but it's nothing OP. Ivara isn't really OP moreso as she has fantastic utility. She's the go-to frame for animal conservation, she gets an augment which allows her to pass through lasers undetected, you can use navigator for some fun gimmicks and her bow has its fans. You basically need her for some of the more annoying Riven challenges.
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i use ivara pretty much exclusively for unlocking certain rivens and conservation/mining (which i rarely do now). her being slow as gently caress while cloaked means i dont even use her for spies.
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ivara is so good because she has an incredibly versatile kit that can attack unusual problems from directions most other frames can't. it's less about raw power in a single area and more about incredible versatility and utility.
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Wukong is really the Spy master now. There is nothing he cannot do.
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Guilty posted:Scrub here, and I was just wondering about what skills makes Ivara and Nekros so overpowered? I know Nekros has the item find, but I found Ivara to be really underwhelming except for her 4 power which seems to one shot everything. There's a little confusion going on here because "difficult to acquire" and "useful" aren't really all that related. Ivara isn't uniquely powerful or useful. She can trivialize spy missions pretty hard, but she drops FROM spy missions, and spy missions are more about parkour skill than solid snake impersonation anyway. Why it's come up is that she is one of the less fun grinds. So the question of "should you spend plat on her" is mostly a question of how much you hate spy missions (I don't particularly, so I ground her out with little friction). "Nekros is OP" is mostly a joke about how you, pragmatically, spend much of the game: grinding. There's a dozen different frames that can kill whole rooms, but Nekros is the king of making those kills count.
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