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What are the chances of the expelled Tory MPs voting for this deal? e: According to wikipedia, the first recorded example of the antisemitic blood libel in England was in 1144, proving that Jeremy Corbyn is a time traveller. Comrade Fakename fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Probably depends on them individually but I'd be surprised if they want to give johnson the satisfaction.
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Oct 15, 2019 22:54
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Khan is such a loving useless melt It's not enough to not be actively doing dumb evil Boris poo poo, he needs to actually try and do good things as well. God bless the hopper fare it's super logical but if you aren't someone that gets 2 buses to work or school he's materially done nothing. And now he launches this housing revolution bollocks when he barely even tweeted about it even as a sexy new mayor with clout. Throwing XR under the bus like he's thrown every other left-wing idea under the bus, oval office wants to be Prime Minister so he can keep not doing anything but at at a higher rank. Obviously gonna vote for him again but hosed if I'm gonna knock on doors for him again.
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Oct 15, 2019 22:55
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Comrade Fakename posted:What are the chances of the expelled Tory MPs voting for this deal? I reckon it’s possible of the ones who are not now Lib Dem’s some or all of them might. On the other hand they’ve really got nothing to lose voting against just to say gently caress you to Joris.
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Is there anything actually better about the backstop on the new deal? As far as I can tell, it's just worse, right?
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Oct 15, 2019 22:59
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I mean it's a lot better if you're sinn fein 
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wocobob posted:Is there anything actually better about the backstop on the new deal? As far as I can tell, it's just worse, right? It allows smuggling on wide scale.
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Oct 15, 2019 23:02
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so what's this about a midnight deadline about the Ireland border? What does that mean?
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sexpig by night posted:so what's this about a midnight deadline about the Ireland border? What does that mean? They wont get it on paper in time for the procedure to leave by the 31st.
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happyhippy posted:They wont get it on paper in time for the procedure to leave by the 31st. so what's the end result there?
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So is the new 'avoid sending the extension letter" plan to have a deal on the boil that takes just too much time to process so the clock ticks over? They certainly can't expect this deal to get accepted, passed, and ratified.
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Oct 15, 2019 23:34
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WhatEvil posted:Also non-pol but thread-adjacent news: Oh wow gently caress there's so much stuff I've never seen before and so much stuff from my childhood thanks for this it's pure gold for me, literally made my day
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Munin posted:So is the new 'avoid sending the extension letter" plan to have a deal on the boil that takes just too much time to process so the clock ticks over? If there's no deal submitted tonight by 12pm, then they're closing the door to negotiations and BoJo has to send the letter. E: any plan submitted after today won't have time to be read through and ratified at the next EUparl meeting, which is why they're setting the deadline. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 15, 2019 |
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Oct 15, 2019 23:46
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Munin posted:So is the new 'avoid sending the extension letter" plan to have a deal on the boil that takes just too much time to process so the clock ticks over? Sounds like it's a way to justify the extension to the Tory base going into an election. Boris can claim to be on the cusp of an acceptable deal and just needs a majority to deliver it. Of course should that parliamentary majority materialise then I'm sure something will magically go wrong with EU negotiations and no deal is back on the table for his ERG chums.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:That's what tonight's midnight deadline is for afaik. Both the EU and UK parliament want to gently caress up Joris Bonson, and get any cumming plans out of the way. Well he better have a stormer of a next *checks watch* four minutes if he wants to avoid a ditch
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We seem so close to him being finished but I wouldn't put it past Johnson to try and rules-lawyer the sending of the letter and trying to get it delivered by bicycle courier or something.
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Oct 16, 2019 00:00
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If you want something you send to reliably disappear use MyHermes imo.
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he's going to have someone run like Pheidippides from Calais to Brussels to hand it in, or something like that
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HauntedRobot posted:We seem so close to him being finished but I wouldn't put it past Johnson to try and rules-lawyer the sending of the letter and trying to get it delivered by bicycle courier or something.
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crispix posted:If you want something you send to reliably disappear use MyHermes imo. lol big truth in this post
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HMM https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1183613484183015425?s=19 This could yet be a Good Day™.
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Hi folks, I know there's some tech folks here, and also some people who have good ideas about fostering and maintaining environments conducive to diversity and inclusivity, so: I'm doing a thing for Hacktoberfest where I'm asking people to submit experiences and ideas relating to diversity here: https://tinyurl.com/diversity-handbook The readme at that link explains things better than I'm doing here, but really I'm just trying to crowdsource things that work and things that don't so we can create a resource for all the people I speak to who say "we know diversity is good for individual people, teams, and the larger organisations, but we don't know how to 'do' diversity" The idea is to keep this going long-term, and make it less failed project than the slack group I set up last year. It turns out doing things in public is actually more useful than what turned into a private clubhouse where nobody talks (it was fun to get a load of lovely looks from the almost-exclusively white male attendees at the conference I presented at, though). If you could, please submit, and/or tell me things I've hosed up already because I bet there's loads, it took me a few hours to remember to add pronouns to the contributors list, for example. Please share with people you think might be interested, like, subscribe, click the bell, all that poo poo. If there's anyone here who would like to do this but doesn't know how github works, ping me and I'll help you get started. If you sign up to Hacktoberfest and do 4 submissions (to almost any project on github), you also get a free tshirt, and this year it looks nice and cyberpunk/retrowave if that's your kind of thing. Thanks for looking <3
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Vitamin P posted:What's led you to that galactic brain take? Seems real dumb. i'm going off all the infiltration and rape and spying and entrapment the cops did to previous activist groups using identities they stole from dead children. that was a little too controversial in the end so this needed a softer approach. convincing some middle class people they can "send a powerful message" by allowing themselves to be arrested seems to fit that. the protesters get to feel like they're "doing something" and you get a list of names and KAs from people who aren't used to dealing with the police and will give up anything to go home, with minimal effort on your part. once you've developed a sufficiently detailed intelligence profile of XR and you've given their occupy stunts time to harden the public against them, you stop playing nice and start cracking heads. which is what is happening now. with the added bonus that you're actively improving and tweaking your policing methods for the next round of protests. it's pretty basic subversion, surprised people fell for it tbh.
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Lmao you know how there was that news the UK would stop arming Turkey? Well the actual news is we'll stop giving licences to sell arms to Turkey going forward and this won't affect the £1 billion worth of arms already licenced to be sold to Turkey that's been agreed over the past five years.
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whereas the government and the filth had to turn to MI5 and career criminals to smash the miners' strike in the 80s in the end because those lads had a strong undergirding ideology, community support, and a unifying set of goals and objectives which made the union extremely difficult to penetrate and subvert.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Lmao you know how there was that news the UK would stop arming Turkey? even then we'll just route poo poo to reliable client states who will probably sell some stuff to the turks and we'll get kickbacks that way
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gh0stpinballa posted:even then we'll just route poo poo to reliable client states who will probably sell some stuff to the turks and we'll get kickbacks that way If Liz Truss is involved, it won't even be that complicated. They'll simply ship it to an airstrip without apparently noticing that it just happens to be in Turkey.
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Jo Swinson on BBC breakfast saying that a 'people's vote' has been Lib Dem policy for 3 years. Haven't they spent that entire time calling Corbyn a secret brexiteer for having that policy? Am I being gaslit by Jo Swinson?
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Praseodymi posted:Jo Swinson on BBC breakfast saying that a 'people's vote' has been Lib Dem policy for 3 years. Labours only sorta had that policy for a year, and only fully since the summer. You're still being gaslit though, they're still insisting Corbyn is a secret brexiteer who wants no deal.
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Oct 16, 2019 07:01
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And also a people's vote is.m no longer their policy so lmao
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Was Boris able to get his homework in by last nights deadline do we know?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:HMM I went past another room where GMB was on, I was there for literally 20 seconds and heard Piers Morgan say "this person identifies as broccoli", so yeah, his firing into the sun can't come soon enough.
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I wonder what excuse Good Morning Britain are going to use for keeping him on after pretending to care about this. Probably something about free speech and nothing to do with how it's caused record numbers of people to Engage with their Brand
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Chucat posted:I went past another room where GMB was on, I was there for literally 20 seconds and heard Piers Morgan say "this person identifies as broccoli", so yeah, his firing into the sun can't come soon enough. A finger on the monkey's paw curls, and Piers Morgan becomes the editor of the Sun
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Bobby Deluxe posted:That's what tonight's midnight deadline is for afaik. Both the EU and UK parliament want to gently caress up Joris Bonson, and get any cumming plans out of the way. But by saying it's on the go and only needs more time, the EU have removed any way for the oval office to blame them for a No Deal exit.
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Angepain posted:I wonder what excuse Good Morning Britain are going to use for keeping him on after pretending to care about this. Probably something about free speech and nothing to do with how it's caused record numbers of people to Engage with their Brand I’m gonna say they’ll either just ignore it outright outside of a few throwaway comments from Susana OR they’ll just have piers whine and claim the poll was ‘hacked’ by snowflake activists
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Bobby Deluxe posted:HMM I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan is on board with this for the attention and to manufacture something for him to complain about. He's a publicity hound above all else, and his one apparent skill is to say and do things that get people yelling at him. He's a professional troll and he's paid very handsomely for it. And, surprise surprise, a person who gets their giggles trolling people is a lovely person with lovely opinions.
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Braggart posted:I doubt it. I wouldn't be surprised if Morgan is on board with this for the attention and to manufacture something for him to complain about. He's a publicity hound above all else, and his one apparent skill is to say and do things that get people yelling at him. He's a professional troll and he's paid very handsomely for it. And, surprise surprise, a person who gets their giggles trolling people is a lovely person with lovely opinions. He's trying to fill the void left by Clarkson where your opinion of him is entirely based on your politics rather than what he's done. Best approach is to say he's a wanker to others and then move on.
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Ms Adequate posted:And also a people's vote is.m no longer their policy so lmao Yup, their policy now is unequivocal revocation even though they had also been calling for a referendum on EU membership in the first place. Previously they had been calling for a people's vote while saying they would just ignore if leave won again. Putting the democrat in liberal democrats.
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