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Ms Adequate posted:And also a people's vote is.m no longer their policy so lmao Nick Robinson interviewed her this morning and she started to pull exactly the same kind of response about this not being their policy that she keeps accusing labour of and hard fuckin lmao
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chestnut santabag posted:Yup, their policy now is unequivocal revocation even though they had also been calling for a referendum on EU membership in the first place. Previously they had been calling for a people's vote while saying they would just ignore if leave won again. Putting the democrat in liberal democrats. It's tough out there for a politician with no principles. People keep bringing up things you've said and done, as if any of those matter now. Tell me what you want me to say and I'll say it! (And do whatever I want instead.)
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-50064595 posted:Harry Dunn's parents have rejected the chance to meet the suspect in their son's crash death after Donald Trump dropped the "bombshell" that she was in the room next door at the White House. Hahahahaha he actually had her in the next room ready to be rolled out like a prize on the Generation Game. I'm surprised it wasn't live-streamed. And of course it was a loving stunt. I'm looking forward to the extremely insensitive tweet about it later today.
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duckmaster posted:Hahahahaha he actually had her in the next room ready to be rolled out like a prize on the Generation Game. I'm surprised it wasn't live-streamed. Jeremy Kyle President
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Okay so there are definitely no aliens or alien technology held by the USA or at least they haven't told Trump because there's no loving way he wouldn't have said something by now.
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namesake posted:Okay so there are definitely no aliens or alien technology held by the USA or at least they haven't told Trump because there's no loving way he wouldn't have said something by now. We need to connect the walls together and build a roof. We do. Using American steel, a fine roof, very good roof, to keep the aliens out, because let me tell you, it's like my dad used to say, and he made many great buildings, smart man, powerful. Not a lot of people know. But we need to keep America safe because when they come here the aliens, Alpha Centauri isn't sending it's best people
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Chucat posted:I went past another room where GMB was on, I was there for literally 20 seconds and heard Piers Morgan say "this person identifies as broccoli", so yeah, his firing into the sun can't come soon enough. I can't believe I'm somehow defending Piers Moron, but he actually *was* interviewing a man who identifies as a Brocolli: https://twitter.com/MarkDiStef/status/1184378437995290624 Mr Broccoli loving owns he made them so angry by making vegetable puns
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Is the bbc just quoting what trump says the parents said there? It was a perfect meeting, very legal and very cool
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duckmaster posted:Hahahahaha he actually had her in the next room ready to be rolled out like a prize on the Generation Game. I'm surprised it wasn't live-streamed. Knowing Me Knowing You with Donald Trump.
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crispix posted:Knowing Me Knowing You with Donald Trump. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKt8BvpdL7Q
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Braggart posted:It's tough out there for a politician with no principles. People keep bringing up things you've said and done, as if any of those matter now. Tell me what you want me to say and I'll say it! (And do whatever I want instead.) Except they're now calling for a second referendum again?? 
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There's also this horrible story in the news about a couple with a baby being put through the US's detention procedure: BBC News - Jailed British holidaymakers 'to be released soon' https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50061122 And I think that maybe our terrible governments are going to make a deal to release our citizens in exchange for letting off the American killer, then it'll be back slaps all round. Says it all though really, kill someone as you're driving on the wrong side of the road: a terrible accident, couldn't be avoided, no penalty. Drive over an unmarked border: automatic guilt and jail.
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Marmaduke! posted:There's also this horrible story in the news about a couple with a baby being put through the US's detention procedure: I hadn't heard of this case - how awful! I just googled expecting to see maybe a black or Arab-looking couple as some sort of (unacceptable) explanation, but no. 
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baka kaba posted:lol this end bit Dang corbs is looking and sounding significantly older each time I see him, I wonder if that's what's behind the rumours of McDonalds' taking the helm. E oh also while I'm here, buy Disco Elysium. It's the first well written RPG in a decade or more and is very very UKMT
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Yeah I saw that one yesterday and sad hahas only tbh, a sane country would just have the cop go "Hey you folks have strayed over the border a little. Don't worry! I'll just show you back over the line and we'll say no more about it." But customs and borders are never reasonable agencies and they never attract the sensible employees. Even in the best of times.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:E oh also while I'm here, buy Disco Elysium. It's the first well written RPG in a decade or more and is very very UKMT Then I bought Disco Elysium.
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Ms Adequate posted:Yeah I saw that one yesterday and sad hahas only tbh, a sane country would just have the cop go "Hey you folks have strayed over the border a little. Don't worry! I'll just show you back over the line and we'll say no more about it." When I was in Luxembourg about 4 years ago, I took a train and went a stop too far into France to a station I thought was still in Luxembourg on a 'one day travelcard' or whatever it was. (I wondered why the train suddenly filled up with customs officials!). Instead of being thrown into prison USA style or accused of fraud UK style, they just said get off at the next stop and then go back.
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Bit off topic but every time I read "we've been treated like criminals" I think... you know... even if they actually were criminals they shouldn't be treated like poo poo
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Pochoclo posted:Bit off topic but every time I read "we've been treated like criminals" I think... you know... even if they actually were criminals they shouldn't be treated like poo poo Agree but most people think anything that happens to a criminal is fine by them. Eg notice how 'police kill unarmed suspect who just happened to be the same colour as a criminal they were after' is swiftly followed by newspaper reports that 'yeah but he smoked dope once /stole some sweets off the sweetie counter in Woolworths when he was 6 so actually it's absolutely fine that he was killed.'
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Aren't you actually a criminal if you cross the border illegally? So the complaint is really "the law shouldn't apply to me I'm white/british."
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OwlFancier posted:Where's the rest of the percentage going? Brexit Party, probably
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:stole some sweets off the sweetie counter in Woolworths when he was 6 who amongst us did not use those plastic scoops to fill your mouth and pockets with plundered jelly sweets
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That's a Tory constituency, so it's not exactly a loss for Labour if that poll does hold true.
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It's a constituency that has historically been Tory (save for a couple of Labour wins at the height of Tony Blair) and it's also the one that Luciana Berger's gone up for. I believe the area's got a strong Jewish population as well so it makes sense that they'd abandon Labour for Berger given the state of the news stories. I don't think you can translate that to a wider swing.
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OwlFancier posted:I mean how does -22 + -23 = +26? Probably rest to "Don't Knows" but it's unfair for them not to include that.
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Hentai Jihadist posted:Dang corbs is looking and sounding significantly older each time I see him, I wonder if that's what's behind the rumours of McDonalds' taking the helm. I've been toying with the idea recently that it could be a good thing for Corbyn to step down sometime soon. He's done amazing things for the party and growing the vote, but there are still a significant amount of people out there who believe he's a communist/anti-semite/hard-brexiter, whatever, and it feels like we're hitting diminishing returns now.
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Red Oktober posted:I've been toying with the idea recently that it could be a good thing for Corbyn to step down sometime soon. He's done amazing things for the party and growing the vote, but there are still a significant amount of people out there who believe he's a communist/anti-semite/hard-brexiter, whatever, and it feels like we're hitting diminishing returns now. How many times do we have to relitigate this? It doesn’t matter who is the leader of the party; if they’re a socialist they’re going to be painted as all these things regardless.
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That'll be the anti-semitism effect. I've a very good long-time Jewish friend in that neck of the woods: left , pro-Palestinian human rights at some no small personal cost (being called 'kappo' 'self-hating' 'not-real-Jew' etc etc by his family) who has been generally pro-Corbyn, though not a party member. He's also an avid Guardian reader which has been the rag doing most of the pushing of the AS stuff. I went to stay with him and his wife earlier this year and he said he didn't really believe it, but he didn't know what to believe so to be safe he said from now on he'll be voting LibDem. Also what Rarity said. It's not really been a labour seat for much of its history. (It was at least two separate constituencies in Thatcher era). Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:Aren't you actually a criminal if you cross the border illegally? A lot of legal systems embed some concept of "mens rea" into legal culpability - are you guilty of a crime if you do it accidentally - and the us system is no different although from a Google (lord knows I'm no lawyer) it varies by crime and jurisdiction as well as separated by state and federal law. They may have committed the offence but it's hard not to look at it as a situation where a person buys a house in some land with no fences and camps out with night vision goggles and a loaded gun because castle doctrine is a thing. The swiftly applied, disproportionate force enforcement is carried out with because someone who's job it is wants to flex that now they get to Do Something is a dick move however you look at it.
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HauntedRobot posted:A lot of legal systems embed some concept of "mens rea" into legal culpability - are you guilty of a crime if you do it accidentally - and the us system is no different although from a Google (lord knows I'm no lawyer) it varies by crime and jurisdiction as well as separated by state and federal law. Which would be fine, if they wouldn't also support exactly those measures being applied to people who aren't them.
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