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ed: tapired tax relief from here quote:Johnson even beats Corbyn when people are asked if they trust leaders to tell the truth. He has a three-point lead over Corbyn on ‘tells the truth in general’ (22% over 19%) and an eight-point lead over Corbyn on ‘tells the truth about Brexit’ (23% over 15%). CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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That Italian Guy posted:You wouldn't hand copy a CAR! Well I mean someone did.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Ugh just realised that Jo Swindon's twitter avi is from a loving TED talk That's very appropriate, the Lib Dems are the political embodiment of a TED talk. It's like those Onion Talk sketches
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Almost as if Johnson came up in a industry that rewards constant and brazen lying so much that he became PM out of it and that same industry is the one that's in charge of assessing both men's character.
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mehall posted:There are some issues around the fact that they can be told which metrics to use for constituencies by the governing party. The Tories told them to go by registered voters, IIRC, instead of eligible voters, when drawing up the new (and not implemented) boundaries, which favours the Tories... That's true, but this has to be interpreted with some caution - vote share (by definition) also does not consider people who do not vote. When measuring boundary-drawing bias in terms of wasted votes per seat - that is, if two-party bias is measured by comparing the FPTP boundary effect against a PR ideal - the neutral PR point is to use actual voters to weight the seats, not eligible voters. The partisan effect (as such) is hence the gap between registered and actual, not registered and eligible - i.e. weighting by past registered punishes inspirational leaders who can turn out surges in future actual voters, for instance, to pick a purely hypothetical example
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Would she vote in favour of a bill that put the decision to the public if Jeremy Corbyn was the PM doing it?
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OwlFancier posted:That's what the lumpy bits are, that's your spirit, spirit is stored in the balls.  Source: I got cancer 3 1/2 years ago because I didn't get a lump checked in time.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Would she vote in favour of a bill that put the decision to the public if Jeremy Corbyn was the PM doing it? It's literally the option Corbyn was saying she'd do but with Boris Johnson instead and the hardest possible Brexit rather than the softest under Labour. The Lib Dems are going to get that betraying an entire generation dip before the General Election even comes. Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Labour should propose an amendment whereby the deal is put to a referendum, and also Lib Dem MPs must switch careers with Westminster cleaners. Also the Tories. And some of Labour. Most of the House, really.
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Wachter posted:In my experience, the reasoning goes: "computer programs are built to spec ∴ they can be rebuilt to my spec ∴ reprogram Microsoft Word for me". I'm sure similar things happen in all walks of life, e.g. Groverhaus. Yeah but it's like if groverhaus was "build me a door that only lets adults through it and also do it for free"
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I still don't understand why the dup would suddenly be happy with a border in the Irish sea
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So this is gone, I assume it's the one predicting Berger taking the London seat? Was it removes over issues raised about Labour's candidate not being announced?
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Jose posted:I still don't understand why the dup would suddenly be happy with a border in the Irish sea
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Lib dems: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hncVNNabglc
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Barnier briefing has been delayed again. Not sure whether that’s a sign that negotiations are going well and they’re hammering out details, or whether it’s going really badly and it’s going to end acrimoniously.
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ronya posted:That's true, but this has to be interpreted with some caution - vote share (by definition) also does not consider people who do not vote. When measuring boundary-drawing bias in terms of wasted votes per seat - that is, if two-party bias is measured by comparing the FPTP boundary effect against a PR ideal - the neutral PR point is to use actual voters to weight the seats, not eligible voters. This looks like a lot of words for "I agree", which I guess is what to expect from a ronya post. I explicitly said that the measures the comission were told to use could be a problem, but that the comission themselves were fair.
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This is a powerfully symbolic photo, but not for the reasons the libs think it is... https://twitter.com/TimGStevens/status/1184167589913812992?s=19
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ThomasPaine posted:This is a powerfully symbolic photo, but not for the reasons the libs think it is... I'm interested in your reasons?
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Even just generally "now it is me that can do the murder" is... not really that uplifting of the message?
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Jose posted:I still don't understand why the dup would suddenly be happy with a border in the Irish sea that "EU sources" tweet mentioned consent, which sounds like Johnson's idea that the backstop should be open to review each year and Stormont gets to veto it before it even comes into effect, which is uh not happening
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I'm interested in your reasons? Yes basically this: OwlFancier posted:Even just generally "now it is me that can do the murder" is... not really that uplifting of the message? Very uplifting to see the jets of a colonial apartheid state currently engaging in ethnic cleansing flying over a former fascist state's ruined machine of genocide, demonstrating a total failure to learn anything meaningful from the holocaust. 'Ha! Now it is OUR race that is strong and mighty!' is not a particularly great take. The photo is great because of the irony, but it's not positive. And while I know Israel =/= Jews, the encouraged interpretation of this photo very clearly plays on that direct association. ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 16:17 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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mehall posted:This looks like a lot of words for "I agree", which I guess is what to expect from a ronya post. it's less the "could be a problem" element and more it's "previously conventionally it was considered another way in which the system favoured LAB, which it no longer does, or at least less so", rather than "it was fair previously and now favours CON" the turnout surge proportion and variation is much smaller than the proportion and variations of eligible voters who don't; the hypothetical is iffy and hard to take entirely seriously. The point, rather, is that the effects come from the change over time rather than the voter composition at a given time
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Modern military airpower to me is like... possibly the perfect crystallization of imperial power. It's a handful of assholes backed up by gajillions of dollars of value extracted from workers, dropping unspeakable and indiscriminate destruction on other workers who literally cannot fight back 90% of the time. It's like dragooning times a thousand.
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Uh, is the The Herald Scotland always this weird: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...republic-china/
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Legend of Dragoon was a cracking videogame
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ronya posted:it's less the "could be a problem" element and more it's "previously conventionally it was considered another way in which the system favoured LAB, which it no longer does, or at least less so", rather than "it was fair previously and now favours CON" I never said it was fair before, what I said was the comission itself is fair, when you account that they have no control over certain measures.
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https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1184487117025697792 We need a new thread snack, immediately. Monster Munch is cancelled
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Tired: Crispchat is distracting from politics that are happening. Wired: Crispchat is politics that are happening. They have poo poo taste in Pringles.
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Necrothatcher posted:Uh, is the The Herald Scotland always this weird: https://www.heraldscotland.com/news...republic-china/ Well that was.... certainly something.
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the biggest crime this gov has committed is those pringles, absolutely shocking
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Just confirms my view of Monster Munch.
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ThomasPaine posted:Legend of Dragoon was a cracking videogame Holy poo poo I thought I was the only one who played that game it's my favourite old school JRPG! What a great loving game. sebzilla posted:https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1184487117025697792 Looks like pickled onion to me!
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Motion tabled for a airing of parliament this Saturday. Nothing confirmed though, and they may not actually do it.
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jabby posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/HackneyAbbott/status/1184492035883126788 Oh no Diane, oh no. I get that being in opposition means giving the government a kicking when you get a chance, but this doesn't seem like the right hill to do that on... The interesting thing about the act is that as Mindgeek are in favour of it you could block an awful lot of content just by putting some form of verification on their sites (they own pornhub, redtube, youporn, brazzars etc). Except they've no interest in doing that unless everyone else is subject as well. Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 16:44 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Do they still make Space Raiders?
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Oh Diane no  Miftan posted:Holy poo poo I thought I was the only one who played that game it's my favourite old school JRPG! What a great loving game. Judging by size it's a multipack of all flavours so luckily we don't have a confirmation on which flavour is the Tory flavour it's Flamin' Hot
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Miftan posted:Looks like pickled onion to me! 
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jabby posted:For gently caress's sake. Is even being shadow home secretary a cursed position now?
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