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jabby posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/HackneyAbbott/status/1184492035883126788 If she hadn't said something like this though, it would have been smeared as 'labour supports children getting porn online'. Anyone with the slightest bit of tech know-how knows the whole idea was doomed from the start but MPs' general understanding of "computers" is on approx the same level as that of a snail. ed: Kat tax with a difference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_ihPz7cBVA
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It's similar to when she said "nobody really needs access to sulphuric acid" after the acid attack panic, which as someone who's been in a position relying on a truck with a lovely battery and also no money for non-lovely batteries I kinda disagree with. It's fine to call the Tories out on breaking their lovely manifesto pledges and promising the impossible, but don't overegg it by promising the impossible/undesirable yourself.
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She could have said the policy was clearly completely unworkable from the start and that it demonstrates the tories' approach to things being utterly unsuited to the realities of the world we live in. Rather than "this would have been great and I wish I'd have done it"
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We've got Hong Kong Vs China in Leeds right now.    Apparently the China govt side are using laser pens on the Hong Kong side r/n e: lol, phoneposting makes pictures very small, as though for ants IrvingWashington fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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jabby posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/HackneyAbbott/status/1184492035883126788 Eh, it’s not like she’s saying Labour would do it either. Seems reasonable to slam the Tories for failing to deliver a campaign promise, even if it was a very stupid one. (And also vaguely infer that Tories are fine with exposing children to porn.)
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Venomous posted:Do they still make Space Raiders? hell yeah they do
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OwlFancier posted:She could have said the policy was clearly completely unworkable from the start and that it demonstrates the tories' approach to things being utterly unsuited to the realities of the world we live in. ...but she doesn't say this? She says that the Tories do not deliver on their promises, using the language THEY used to push it in the first place.
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In the context of objecting to the shelving of a bad law, I think it bears clarification that you do not support the bad law. Because if you adopt the tory language and complain about the tories not doing a bad law, it just makes you look as if you like the tory law... Especially when you're occupying a notoriously lovely position in a party that up until quite recently would have also supported the lovely law. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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OwlFancier posted:Especially when you're occupying a notoriously lovely position in a party that up until quite recently would have also supported the lovely law.
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OwlFancier posted:F in chat for hillary (step) Now it's the Crooked Hillary Step
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Comrade Fakename posted:Eh, it’s not like she’s saying Labour would do it either. Seems reasonable to slam the Tories for failing to deliver a campaign promise, even if it was a very stupid one. She's saying that if they had gone ahead then 'very young children' would no longer have access to 'hardcore porn'. She's painting the scrapped law as a good thing. She's also saying that not wanting to heavily regulate the internet means you aren't interested in 'law and order'. Being able to watch porn online isn't a matter of loving law and order, that's some authoritarian bullshit. She also has form on this, she's said before nobody should have the right to be anonymous online which is even more draconian than any measures proposed by the Tories. I'm genuinely beginning to think she might not be a very good home secretary.
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The curse of the home office is too strong. Who was the last home secretary who wasn't an authoritarian bastard, Roy Jenkins?
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One can hope, of course, that she just doesn't understand the nature of the internet and therefore would not, for example, suggest children should need to post on LGBTQ forums under their public name and address, or people should have to register with the police to be able to discuss organizing a protest, or that people's employers should be able to google them and pull up their conversations with people about the benefits of unionization. One can hope, but "I haven't thought about any of that before deciding people shouldn't be allowed anonymity" is not the mark of someone I want in the office in charge of whether we have anonymity.
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Everyone has to post a photo of their prolapsed rectum to the Home Office to be placed on file in exchange for your internet licence.
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Guavanaut posted:Everyone has to post a photo of their prolapsed rectum to the Home Office to be placed on file in exchange for your internet licence. Ah, I'm basically sorted then.
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Just an fyi but  (It will propogate soon)
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VideoGames posted:Just an fyi but Extremely appropriate for the news that at least one cabinet member is a fan.
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marktheando posted:The curse of the home office is too strong. Who was the last home secretary who wasn't an authoritarian bastard, Roy Jenkins? Wikipedia says that "he undermined his previous liberal credentials to some extent by pushing through the controversial Prevention of Terrorism Act, which, among other things, extended the length of time suspects could be held in custody and instituted exclusion orders" - so he was bad too. (And then he founded the SDP.)
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Pesmerga posted:
 As far as the whole porno-pass thing, they're probably pissed about losing the revenue from the one person who wouldn't use a VPN or something to keep getting it for free. Plus if I remember rightly Pornhub were basically in charge of the 'project', and I'm sure they were in a big ol' hurry to alienate people using their site. They probably planned on doing what happens to most government IT projects. Take buckets of money, then deliver something late that barely works.
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marktheando posted:The curse of the home office is too strong. Who was the last home secretary who wasn't an authoritarian bastard, Roy Jenkins? Maybe Ken Clarke but he was only in the job for 13 months or so and I was about 6 so wasn't really following the machinations of the Major cabinet. There's nothing obviously atrocious from that period that I can think of anyway.
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It's weird how society managed to produce this endless stream of boring old farts who end up with this bizzare idea that all human activity needs to be controlled. You'd have thought it'd have taken a dent after the sixties, though maybe that's because it was counterculture at the time. I feel like today it's more culture, maybe there's hope for the future.
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IrvingWashington posted:We've got Hong Kong Vs China in Leeds right now. Quoting so that I can actually see these images.
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OwlFancier posted:It's weird how society managed to produce this endless stream of boring old farts who end up with this bizzare idea that all human activity needs to be controlled.
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CGI Stardust posted:Guessing that a person adapts to the institution much faster than the institution adapts to the individual person I guess but people vote for it too, which is the weirder part.
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Do any of these Jo Swinson 'mis speakings' ever get reported on main BBC news (I don't watch it so no idea). My mother is here and I think she is planning to vote LibDem next time and is oblivious to the reality of Ms Swinson. ( I don't let her watch news round here, she has to watch Star Trek instead :crueldaughter: ) Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Good afternoon, UKMT. Please say thank you and hello to the new thread IK, Guavanaut. communism bitch did a good job, but as he's no longer very active, we have decided to play musical chairs. Please be nice and do not hurt the new IK. He makes your thread every month.
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limited posted:As far as the whole porno-pass thing, they're probably pissed about losing the revenue from the one person who wouldn't use a VPN or something to keep getting it for free. Plus if I remember rightly Pornhub were basically in charge of the 'project', and I'm sure they were in a big ol' hurry to alienate people using their site. Pornhub's parent company runs the online ID system the scheme was going to use, so they were getting paid either way.
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All hail the new comissariat.
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jabby posted:She's saying that if they had gone ahead then 'very young children' would no longer have access to 'hardcore porn'. She's painting the scrapped law as a good thing. If it were possible to make it impossible for children to see hardcore porn on the internet with absolutely no side effects that would be a good thing. The Tories promised that, and they failed. Partly because they are incompetent, and partly because it was impossible anyway. It’s okay to slam them for failing to deliver the technically good thing that they promised and didn’t not deliver. She’s not suggesting at all that Labour would try to deliver it either.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Can't believe Communism Bitch got gulaged. Sometimes even the ideologically pure fanatics get gulaged. but, well, that's communism, bitch
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Sometimes even the ideologically pure fanatics get gulaged.  Also communism bitch did not get gulag'd, he's still right here, able to post, totally not extraordinarily renditioned I swear.
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