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The death of communism bitch
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Oct 16, 2019 18:55
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MrFlibble posted:I blocked our idiot king when I went on one about Epsteins death and then unblocked him once I calmed down. Remains the only person I have unblocked. Guavanaut is now dictator of the proletariat.
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Oct 16, 2019 18:56
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OwlFancier posted:I guess but people vote for it too, which is the weirder part. Again we go back to "Why are the Tories so bloody popular since they are all regressive spivs, fuckups, and so forth."
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Oct 16, 2019 18:57
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OwlFancier posted:It's weird how society managed to produce this endless stream of boring old farts who end up with this bizzare idea that all human activity needs to be controlled. It's always been there, at least from the days of static agricultural societies, warlords, Codes of Ur-Nammu and all that, but it didn't really come into the idea of controlling all activity to some end until the 18th century with enlightenment ideals, early industrialization, and books about statecraft that are less poetic reminders of various values and more dry academic ideas, and everyone had a hard-on for codifying things instead of relying on custom, which isn't always the worst, but set the idea down for 19th century science culminating in ~scientific management~ and the idea that people are ultimately controllable in certain ways, and also that this is desirable, usually because of number and going up. Then came fascism, which is all about complete state control of all human activity, but it couldn't survive its own contradictions about 'for what?' and so settled on 'war' and 'Jew bad' and other poo poo. But this bit: OwlFancier posted:I guess but people vote for it too, which is the weirder part. That's what got the current round of drug laws, the war on drugs, fears of armed gangs, and a lot of the Others in present society, and the older generation grew up in the moral panics of that time. (And it seems notably people who were in their teens during the 60s like Blair and Brown and Blunkett who had something of a full-on control everything attitude to human group behaviour with ASBOs and surveillance and clamping down on protest.) Also the people who grew up in the shadow of that (and the war on terror) seem to be a lot more against it. Lightning Knight posted:Guavanaut is now dictator of the proletariat. 
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Oct 16, 2019 18:59
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no tears from me. communism bitch was responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths
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Oct 16, 2019 19:00
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Looking forward to exporting Communism With British Characteristics to the rest of the world. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Oct 16, 2019 19:07
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OwlFancier posted:Communism With British Characteristics 
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Oct 16, 2019 19:10
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Guavanaut posted:I think the 60s were a big part of what started the current round of it. I hope you're right, because the older I get (and the more you anarchist rabble post at me) the more I end up thinking that life is what happens between the laws, and that this bizzare preoccupation with codifying and regulating every aspect of people's lives just... for the sake of it is fundamentally bad. I get why people end up on anti government bents, even the weirdo libcaps, because if your main experience with the government is a bunch of pointless guff that just makes your life harder (and you can't ideologically conceive a difference between capital and the public) then it makes sense.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:11
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OwlFancier posted:Looking forward to exporting Communism With British Characteristics to the rest of the world. It involves lots of orderly queues and drinking flavoured water for lack of anything better to do.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:12
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Red Oktober posted:The interesting thing about the act is that as Mindgeek are in favour of it you could block an awful lot of content just by putting some form of verification on their sites (they own pornhub, redtube, youporn, brazzars etc). Except they've no interest in doing that unless everyone else is subject as well. They could legislate so that ISPs have to lock out adult content until photo ID is provided, but then that's functionally the same situation as we already have, I think (I'm pretty sure I needed to contact Virgin and get them to turn the smut filter off so I could, you know, do my goddamn job ). I mean I absolutely am not in favour of a block at all, I was just thinking about it as a kind of mental exercise. But I don't really know enough about networking. It just seems more feasible. Even then, IIRC ISPs can't really control bittorrent traffic itself can they? So all you'd need is a browser that uses encrypted torrent protocols and all the ISP knows is that there's a stream of data happening. I'll stop talking bollocks now. Technology is really interesting.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:13
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okay im splitting and starting a new trotskyite UKMT thread
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Oct 16, 2019 19:16
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this illegitimate coup by the social-fascist admins will not stand
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Oct 16, 2019 19:16
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communism bitch posted:this illegitimate coup by the social-fascist admins will not stand 
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Oct 16, 2019 19:17
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communism bitch posted:okay im splitting and starting a new trotskyite UKMT thread I do not want your newspaper, go away, leave me alone
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Oct 16, 2019 19:17
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For me the craziest thing about the porn block is that it expected foreign websites to go along with British law. It's almost brexit like in it's failure to understand Britain's place in the world.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:19
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communism bitch posted:okay im splitting and starting a new trotskyite UKMT thread communism bitch posted:this illegitimate coup by the social-fascist admins will not stand owned
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Oct 16, 2019 19:19
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Guavanaut posted:I think the 60s were a big part of what started the current round of it. (Also hello glorious leader)
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Oct 16, 2019 19:19
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Bobby Deluxe posted:They could legislate so that ISPs have to lock out adult content until photo ID is provided, but then that's functionally the same situation as we already have, I think (I'm pretty sure I needed to contact Virgin and get them to turn the smut filter off so I could, you know, do my goddamn job ). I've been on Virgin internet for a few years and wasn't even aware that they had a smut filter. Turns out that's most likely because I hate their router and put it in modem mode with my own router attached, which has an internal DNS server. That's all it takes to bypass that entirely. Twisto effortposted somewhere (it might be in the effortposts graveyard) about the much better tech that they use to stop child abuse images and such, which apparently can't be circumvented by just switching routers, but they don't use that for general smut filters for some reason. Bobby Deluxe posted:I mean I absolutely am not in favour of a block at all, I was just thinking about it as a kind of mental exercise. But I don't really know enough about networking. It just seems more feasible.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:20
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freal though i've been super inactive for the past couple months and have noticed repeatedly there have been meltdowns in the thread that I totally failed to deal with because I wasn't logging in, so clearly I'm not the best person to be idiot kinging. e: I have noticed that as my crazy pills have started making me less miserable I've been less bothered about ranting in the UKMT. Just an observation.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:21
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communism bitch posted:freal though i've been super inactive for the past couple months and have noticed repeatedly there have been meltdowns in the thread that I totally failed to deal with because I wasn't logging in, so clearly I'm not the best person to be idiot kinging. Oh sure you give up your position in the UKMTVD and now you start telling people to "take medication" for their "mental health conditions" next you're gonna tell me that the loving thetans aren't stealing my sex power when I masturbate.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:28
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communism bitch posted:e: I have noticed that as my crazy pills have started making me less miserable I've been less bothered about ranting in the UKMT. Just an observation. i’ve already submitted “posting on sa in 2019, especially in D&D” for inclusion the dsm-6 Guavanaut posted:Twisto effortposted somewhere (it might be in the effortposts graveyard) about the much better tech that they use to stop child abuse images and such, which apparently can't be circumvented by just switching routers, but they don't use that for general smut filters for some reason. i thought the “tech” in most of those cases were “underpaid workers that are being forced to moderate psyche-breaking content, also they don’t get any mental health support because those issues are just all in your head”
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Oct 16, 2019 19:31
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:
Better yet, do what Facebook do and employ all the people who do that as contractors. That way when they burn out a few weeks in they don't affect your employee turnover rates. Win win!
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Oct 16, 2019 19:37
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OwlFancier posted:Oh sure you give up your position in the UKMTVD and now you start telling people to "take medication" for their "mental health conditions" next you're gonna tell me that the loving thetans aren't stealing my sex power when I masturbate. Also why do we not have an old time doctor smiley? Either Victorian mustacheman or rad plague doctor. Ursine Catastrophe posted:i thought the “tech” in most of those cases were “underpaid workers that are being forced to moderate psyche-breaking content, also they don’t get any mental health support because those issues are just all in your head” I'm not sure how well that's working with the new Let's Encrypt initiative to make all websites https, because the traditional system only worked on port 80 (unencrypted). Also they don't work at all on facebook, which apparently has tons. e: *by you I mean whoever asks the IWF for a list of the bad sites to set up their Cleanfeedalike, not you as the end user. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 19:43 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Oct 16, 2019 19:39
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lol boris' deal is illegal under an amendment the ERG brought in last year https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1184530270478913538?s=20 quote:Single United Kingdom customs territory
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Oct 16, 2019 19:43
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Guavanaut posted:I think the 60s were a big part of what started the current round of it.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:44
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marktheando posted:lol boris' deal is illegal under an amendment the ERG brought in last year looooool Ofc they could just repeal it but it's funny nonetheless.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:44
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marktheando posted:lol boris' deal is illegal under an amendment the ERG brought in last year I presume they'll just add a line in to any proposed bill to repeal? Absolutely love to rip up legislation formed after the Brexit vote already.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:45
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Guavanaut posted:Monster Munch are comrades. I’m glad the new Idiot Kommissar is in tune with the people. marktheando posted:lol boris' deal is illegal under an amendment the ERG brought in last year Hoisted by his own petard 
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Oct 16, 2019 19:54
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yeah if they had the votes to get this deal past parliament presumably they would also have the votes to repeal this amendment, which was introduced by jacob rees-mogg. of course they don't have the votes to do either of these things. but maugham seems to think he can do some law things to prevent parliament voting at all on boris' deal, who knows
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Oct 16, 2019 19:56
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Or at least delay it so they have to extend.
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Oct 16, 2019 19:58
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CGI Stardust posted:The book I've been reading contains a bunch of examinations of the intersection between 60s counterculture and cybernetics (ed: architectural, art, psychiatric, etc. - not robot arms); it's absolutely fascinating and a real goddamn shame those projects ended up falling apart from lack of institutional support and establishment fear. Could have seen a different sort of person populating the world, but all we have is living hams with lust for mass death
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Oct 16, 2019 20:01
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MrFlibble posted:I blocked our idiot king when I went on one about Epsteins death and then unblocked him once I calmed down. Remains the only person I have unblocked. Idiot Kouncil
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Oct 16, 2019 20:02
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 I really don’t know what’s going on in my new Home of Germany. Im not sure I like it.
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Oct 16, 2019 20:08
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Guavanaut posted:Twisto effortposted somewhere (it might be in the effortposts graveyard) about the much better tech that they use to stop child abuse images and such, which apparently can't be circumvented by just switching routers, but they don't use that for general smut filters for some reason. IIRC the reason is that the ways to get round the paedo filter aren't so well known because only paedos care, but if they use it for general smut then everyone in the country will want to bypass it and the methods will end up as common knowledge
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Oct 16, 2019 20:09
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warning to the thread: Brendan O’Neil is getting litigious if you make jokes about his extremely massive head https://twitter.com/stef_wholemeal/status/1184521024404107264?s=21 VideoGames posted:Just an fyi but 
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Oct 16, 2019 20:10
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Do not post negative comments about the national socialist party or its leader.
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Oct 16, 2019 20:12
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Guavanaut posted:That does sound interesting, what's the book? Worth checking out for sure. Fits in quite nicely with a non-authoritarian left framework too, it's given me a new perspective on the importance of different ontologies when thinking about political and social structures.
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Oct 16, 2019 20:13
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Though I'm not sure about this Mingely Peefaffe solicitor of Slaughter and Mayme.
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Oct 16, 2019 20:14
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OwlFancier posted:Though I'm not sure about this Mingely Peefaffe solicitor of Slaughter and Mayme. Yeah it’s a wind up, but the line about “looking like a butter bean that fell behind the couch” had me rollin
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Oct 16, 2019 20:17
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:warning to the thread: Brendan O’Neil is getting litigious if you make jokes about his extremely massive head It's so very believable until you actually start looking at the details. Very good.
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Oct 16, 2019 20:18
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