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ShutteredIn posted:Trump has severe brainworms. Parasites are a likely factor in his mental deficiency (but they're not forcing him to be a bad president).
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Serrath posted:I’m an actual physician and I can assure you that there is pretty much 0 evidence that he has either. Syphilis would have needed to go untreated for decades to reach the tertiary stage and you’d see a whole heap of other symptoms and Huntington’s presents younger, with a much stronger genetic history, and you’d also see a whole heap of other symptoms I'm not a mental health provider but I have been calling Trump an obvious narcissist since the day of the escalator based on my experiences with a narcissistic parent. Trump is pretty much the most obvious/exaggerated case of NPD in the history of the human race, but he also did have a certain kind of genius in making himself the center of attention when he wanted to be, and ducking away from attention that he didn't want using a combination of wealth and ruthlessness. Trump achieved the ultimate dream of the narcissist, he clawed his way to a position of power where he could force literally the entire world to pay attention to his every sneeze and cough. But like an Icarus made of pure ID he has flown too close to the Sun, and he is taking us all on a ride as he plummets to the ground.
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Calibanibal posted:Trump very likely has Huntington's disease. But who cares? That's not why he's a bad person. God drat it Calibanibal, I demand an av rollback!
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Serrath posted:I’d argue the following It's not just the stupid rear end in a top hat nature of how he talks it's poo poo like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUPsNgmXR7M that happens more and more and is visibly getting worse
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Prester Jane posted:Trump achieved the ultimate dream of the narcissist, he clawed his way to a position of power where he could force literally the entire world to pay attention to his every sneeze and cough. But like an Icarus made of pure ID he has flown too close to the Sun, and he is taking us all on a ride as he plummets to the ground. Idcarus. 
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i think its also people didn't care enough back than. like back in the 90s, he was just a douchbag celebrity who would do weird stupid poo poo and was on the tv and a symbol of various lovely poo poo in our culture. no one than thought trump would ever go anywhere of REAL importance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtparSnQhFc anyway. i think like you said, age and privledge has melded his persona and his true dickhead self together into some eldritch level of stupidity and narcissism. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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I think we've heard enough speculation on what the exact causes of the president's severe case of stupid assholitis are.
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Anyone else stumble upon Trump references in older TV shows? It’s just the weirdest loving thing. Like I was rewatching Veronica Mars a little while back and in an episode from like 2005 and they had a Trump name drop. And The Office had a bunch of Trump references in its early run since it was on NBC with The Apprentice. It’s just so uncomfortable and I’m dreading that scene in Home Alone 2 this upcoming Holiday Season.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Thinking on it how much money would you give to watch Trump just tumble down the stairs and eat poo poo while disembarking Air Force 1? I’d chip in $100 easily. Nah, I don't want him to be physically hurt and/or frightened, given how apprehensive he appears about stairs. I just don't want him to be able to hurt anybody anymore. EDIT: Just saw the mod post, better to be safe than sorry!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Anyone else stumble upon Trump references in older TV shows? It’s just the weirdest loving thing. Like I was rewatching Veronica Mars a little while back and in an episode from like 2005 and they had a Trump name drop. And The Office had a bunch of Trump references in its early run since it was on NBC with The Apprentice. i find them somewhat interesting because those jokes are funnier than any of the poo poo anyone tries now a days. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1YxjBEG0ig like its dumb but its better than SNLs bullshit. it just paints him as he is, a stupid rear end in a top hat who steps on everyone.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Anyone else stumble upon Trump references in older TV shows? It’s just the weirdest loving thing. Like I was rewatching Veronica Mars a little while back and in an episode from like 2005 and they had a Trump name drop. And The Office had a bunch of Trump references in its early run since it was on NBC with The Apprentice. The roast of Trump in 2011 is even worse because one of the big topics of the roast is that "this moron wants to become president"
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Prester Jane posted:I'm not a mental health provider but I have been calling Trump an obvious narcissist since the day of the escalator based on my experiences with a narcissistic parent. I don’t think there’s any argument that he has narcissism. Applying a diagnosis is a bit trickier; you’ll see a debate within the mental health literature between psychiatrists on both sides as to whether or not NPD applies I’ve posted before about this but my approach to diagnostics tends to land on the side of what would advise treatment or further intervention. When a diagnosis won’t change anything about your approach, it has no clinical utility not achieved by simply calling it narcissism (the quality). I don’t think trump reaches the threshold for impairment required to apply it as a diagnostic label. A lot of words by a lot of very reputable professionals have been written on this subject, though, and I certainly do understand the arguments about using diagnostic labels. The debate ends up being less about trump, though, and more about the philosophies of diagnostics in general. I think psychiatric diagnoses should be used only in the limited sphere of advising treatment and intervention, not to providing explanations for the behavior of assholes on the street who haven’t been subject to clinical investigation
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Serrath posted:I’d argue the following I see this constantly with dementia patients and even just age-related cerebral atrophy. Pleasant people become super pleasantly confused and happy. Assholes become megadicks. Sometimes the opposite happens because of loss of inhibition but usually not. I watched an interview Trump did with Larry King from the 80s or early 90s and he talked almost exactly the way he does now, unfocused and tangential, lots of confabulation and word salad garbage. The guy has always had below-normal-limits attention and intelligence. I think something is wrong with him at baseline but it's really just supposition. Edit: Just saw the mod post, I'll hop off the derail train. 
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Ice Phisherman posted:For those not in the know, Jack Prosobiec is the guy who spins conspiracy theories about Pizzagate and the supposed child sex trafficking rings. He's deep into that Q-Anon poo poo. Super deep. He was also hilariously caught cheating on his wife on Bumble, then proceeded to make a bunch of awkward Tweets that could be distilled down to, "No really, we're together and still totally happy! She loves me!"
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Serrath posted:I don’t think there’s any argument that he has narcissism. Applying a diagnosis is a bit trickier; you’ll see a debate within the mental health literature between psychiatrists on both sides as to whether or not NPD applies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEe7_zgZbuI Edit: Might be time to reconsider hesitance when the fate of the world "might" be involved. Otteration fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Blood is on your hands https://mobile.twitter.com/PollaGarmiany/status/1184559890334978048 https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalalmutar/status/1184605996410429441 Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 02:54 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Serrath posted:I don’t think there’s any argument that he has narcissism. Applying a diagnosis is a bit trickier; you’ll see a debate within the mental health literature between psychiatrists on both sides as to whether or not NPD applies I can completely grant you that there is a real scientific debate to be had about whether or not he warrants a formal diagnosis, especially given the current criteria. That said, my understanding of narcissism is not academic, but rather practical/experiential. I was raised and homeschooled for five years by a narcissistic parent, I also spent several months as an adult living in a residential treatment facility with an individual who was a formally diagnosed narcissist and whom had some level of self-awareness of his condition*. * this program was for treating individuals who could both document a significant mental illness and document chronic homelessness- and then there was a months long waiting list. As a result the population in this program self-selected very highly for mentally ill individuals who already had developed some level of self-awareness about their condition and possessed a real desire for self-improvement; because otherwise there was no way you were going to manage to both qualify for the program and manage to jump through all the hoops to get in. Edit: just saw mod note, dropping topic
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Air-striking myself 2 own the libs
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:This is first time I heard that one of those killed was a child gently caress.
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Serrath posted:I’m an actual physician and I can assure you that there is pretty much 0 evidence that he has either. Syphilis would have needed to go untreated for decades to reach the tertiary stage and you’d see a whole heap of other symptoms and Huntington’s presents younger, with a much stronger genetic history, and you’d also see a whole heap of other symptoms I think people want to attribute such characteristics/diagnosis to him because it's comforting. It makes it easy to go, "Oh he's got Huntington's and that's why he's such a terrible person." It's comforting in the same way that a person tells themself that on their drive to work the jerk who cut them off was trying to get to the hospital in a rush. Trump is possibly one of the worst humans to exist. It's hard for people to look upon that and accept that people can be that bad without a reason, but the measure of it is that some people are just that terrible, that cruel, that selfish. Here's a credible rape accusation against Trump and Epstine from 1994. https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/ Ya know, 25 years ago before Huntington's or Syphilis would have done anything to his personality. That one never went to discovery though, so maybe it's not good enough for the swell posters of this forum. How about when he raped his wife in 1989? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations That would have been 30 years ago! Long before any disease could rot his brain. I'm focusing on the rape aspects of Trump, but don't let that distract you. He's trash all around. I'm focusing on the rapes verses him screwing contractors out of their just due, avoiding taxes, his racism over the years, etc., etc., etc. because rape is easy to understand as bad. It's not easy for a normal person to accept just how bad a person he is. A decent percentage of people have empathy of some level or another and it's just befuddling how someone could be this bad. The worst part is that it's not just Trump. No, it's not just him, he has his followers too. That challenges the acceptance even further of how bad he is because then you have to accept how bad the people are who still support him. Now, we can say that some of those people are uninformed, some of those people are brainwashed, but you have to accept that some of those people know exactly what is going on and are just like Trump. They are just terrible people that walk out there in society and if they had an ounce of Trumps power they would have been the same person. It's hard to swallow. The things like attributing it to dementia/Huntington's/Syphilis are what I refer to as conspiracies of the Left. If you have empathy it is hard to understand someone like Trump and you have to justify it for your brain to accept it.
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Bizarro Watt posted:He was also hilariously caught cheating on his wife on Bumble, then proceeded to make a bunch of awkward Tweets that could be distilled down to, "No really, we're together and still totally happy! She loves me!" Doesn't he also feature said wife in a hilariously bad comic series about him? It's amazing how ubiquitous weird comics about political figures are becoming.
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This is an example of what we are dealing with re: the GOP electorate. I posted in a discussion thread (another forum) about Trump trying to spring "surprise visit/hug session with your son's killer" on the British couple who were meeting with him. First a Trumper posted this, indicating they hadn't looked into the story at all:  then I asked if he'd bothered to read anything about it since this showed he had no idea what happened and the response: quote:The stories are false. They are always false. To which I posted embedded video of an extensive interview with the couple detailing exactly what happened, and asked him if they were liars. He didn't answer and deflected thusly: quote:I'm saying its manufactured. All of it. Pretty sure that's what you said at the top of the thread, too. (I'd said Trump had been trying to manufacture a photo op, not that the story was false) Some more people piled on, leading to this deflection: quote:NOW you give a flying gently caress about victims of vehicular manslaughter? There's another guy who doesn't post actual posts, but just videos making fun of Hilary Clinton. So arguing or debating with people like this is pointless. It's just endless gish gallop evasion, or frank trolling. This story is the most straightforward unambiguous thing ever. The couple are either telling the truth or are liars. But righties won't read a story or watch a 5 minute video right in front of them or engage in any real exchange.
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Ice Phisherman posted:I haven't really seen any evidence that Trump would be schizophrenic. More likely abuse of drugs that he's doing would be more likely. I can't remember the name of what was in his cabinet recently, found by accident. Boxes and boxes of the UK variant of the drug. However, inability to sleep and paranoid delusions were common in those who are abusers. Rime posted:Sudafed.
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Also, Huntington's is a movement disorder so, uh, maybe don't diagnose people with medical terms that are not understood, for a patient you haven't seen/examined?
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Blood is on your hands Welp I wasn't gonna drink much more tonight, however 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:id like to think its getting closer probably. thoses faces tell me they know shits getting bad. I see a bunch of old cowards who aren't gonna do poo poo. They'll watch Trump execute someone in the Oval office while looking sad.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Anyone else stumble upon Trump references in older TV shows? It’s just the weirdest loving thing. Like I was rewatching Veronica Mars a little while back and in an episode from like 2005 and they had a Trump name drop. And The Office had a bunch of Trump references in its early run since it was on NBC with The Apprentice. I re-watched Home Alone 2 last Christmas and I had forgotten that bloated fucker was in it. Ruined the rest of the movie for me. Also yea Trump has always been a narcissistic rear end in a top hat but good god is he declining mentally and fast. Compare a speech of his from 2015-2016 to today. Just a few years ago he could string together a thought even if it was still word salad. Now he’s slurring his speech and lacks energy in general.
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Zwabu posted:Some more people piled on, leading to this deflection: You did the right thing, and what it comes down to for me is that other people started joining in and discussing. At that point, don't address the people arguing in bad faith. Use what they say to exemplify how parties argue in bad faith and deflect instead of engaging with arguments. If the person you're arguing with is trying to score points off of you, hold them up as an example of what that looks like. They might not listen, but (hopefully) those overhearing the discussion will.
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Earth posted:I think people want to attribute such characteristics/diagnosis to him because it's comforting. It makes it easy to go, "Oh he's got Huntington's and that's why he's such a terrible person." It's comforting in the same way that a person tells themself that on their drive to work the jerk who cut them off was trying to get to the hospital in a rush. Trump is possibly one of the worst humans to exist. It's hard for people to look upon that and accept that people can be that bad without a reason, but the measure of it is that some people are just that terrible, that cruel, that selfish. It's comforting because attributing illnesses to him means he's going to loving die soon, that's it. That's all.
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Zwabu posted:This is an example of what we are dealing with re: the GOP electorate. I've encountered the talismanic phrase "the truth will come out" as a rebuttal in the wild as well from time-to-time, and it's the most transparent bullshit someone can drum up in an argument. Never mind the fact that said truth never actually comes out at all, but the entire concept relies on this idea that they will win this argument... later. It's such a simple line, but so indicative of the dream logic that so many rightwingers view the administration with. To them it's an inevitability that Trump will be vindicated, even as he continues to Kool-Aid Man through more-and-more scandals each day. Don't think about today, buddy! It'll all workout tomorrow!
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1glitch0 posted:I see a bunch of old cowards who aren't gonna do poo poo. that too. Solaris 2.0 posted:I re-watched Home Alone 2 last Christmas and I had forgotten that bloated fucker was in it. Ruined the rest of the movie for me. part of me thinks its the stress of the presidency. i mean look how it ages people. doesn't help all he does is gently caress up and he is super disliked.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Anyone else stumble upon Trump references in older TV shows? It’s just the weirdest loving thing. Like I was rewatching Veronica Mars a little while back and in an episode from like 2005 and they had a Trump name drop. And The Office had a bunch of Trump references in its early run since it was on NBC with The Apprentice. There’s a couple in Cheers that make me sad.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Blood is on your hands Jesus. The other disturbing bit from that news is this happened not in Syria, but Iraq.
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So Donny released the summary of his perfect conversation with the Ukrainian President, handed out copies of the that insane letter to Erdogan, and has repeatedly tweeted pictures that make the Democrats look great in the batshit meltdown meeting. So, where's the countdown clock to him releasing and audio recording, video recording, or another criminally implicating summary of his meeting about Syria to prove that he totally didn't melt down, you melted down?
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Marine Iraq War veteran to be deported Tuesday to El Salvador marinecorpstimes.com/1 day ago "An Iraq War Marine veteran will be deported to El Salvador Tuesday ― a country he has not seen since he was 3 years old, his stepsister said." For the first time, workers are paying a higher tax rate than investors and owners washingtonpost.com/Oct. 16, 2019 "The proximate cause of the shift was Trump’s 2017 tax cut, which dramatically slashed taxes on corporate profits and estates" The US Naval Academy Will Host Satanic Services, According to The Satanic Temple patheos.com/October 13, 2019 "It would also be very amusing to see the USNA try to cohere a policy of selective exclusion against religious organizations that are involved with lobbying or religious liberty litigation. Most, if not all, major religious organizations would be barred from performing services. We have sent a letter to the USNA requesting that they correct the erroneous decision reported by their spokesperson. Below is our press release:" 
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Blood is on your hands This happened in Iraq, not Syria
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Gyges posted:So Donny released the summary of his perfect conversation with the Ukrainian President, handed out copies of the that insane letter to Erdogan, and has repeatedly tweeted pictures that make the Democrats look great in the batshit meltdown meeting. yeah. i mean i think he will do something crazier/stupider that will piss the GOP off even more. i am unsure what it could be, like i said upthread, maybe he will pull out of SK.
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Kro-Bar posted:What? Are we bombing our own bases? Ya man haven't you ever hard of a tactical retreat? https://www.businessinsider.com/us-bombed-its-anti-isis-headquarters-as-turkish-troops-advanced-2019-10
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