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Nostalgia4Butts posted:buffs rule Many years ago, a poster on this subforum said they want to see buffs in a box formation laying waste before they die, and I still hold out a pipe dream that might come to pass.
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Arc Light posted:Many years ago, a poster on this subforum said they want to see buffs in a box formation laying waste before they die, and I still hold out a pipe dream that might come to pass. gently caress yesss https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm5kv9PH4xA
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If anybody ever said happy boss day or gave me anything for it I would think lesser of them, and/or fire them.
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Arms Control Wonk did a podcast on Monday which was surprisingly listenable despite the audio quality. TAILKITS AND THE TURKS: US NUCLEAR WEAPONS IN TURKEY 
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colachute posted:He said the pkk is more of a terroristic threat than isis I loving KNEW IT e: Milo and POTUS posted:Odds we see him side with ISIS over the kurds What do i win
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Casimir Radon posted:Now this is definitely peak-dying administration, but they're not going to let it go. He'll win reelection, hate to tell you
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Doc Hawkins posted:grandpa, i told you, some of the kurds are communist, and they're not muslim Not that it matters to anybody except maybe our obsolete racist grandpas, but I am fairly sure most Kurds are Muslims.
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pkells posted:What USAF aircraft are even certified to load those? Is it just the B-52’s and the B-2’s now? I know you could load those on any cargo aircraft, but could you conceivably strap them onto F-16 hard points to fly them out in an emergency? Strictly speaking the tactical variant which I believe is what we're discussing at Incirlik is only authorized for delivery via F-16, F-15E, and Tornado. As of 2018 NNSA lists B-2 as the only strategic B61 delivery platform, leaving the B-52 without a nuclear gravity bomb mission for the first time.
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Just set them off and call it done
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Just load them up and get out of there. What are they gonna do, shoot down a couple of B-52s loaded to the brim with nukes over their own territory?
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:buffs rule https://youtu.be/5xO3lYa1bEc
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word is floating around that justice dept tried to file a grand jury indictment against andrew mccabe and it might have failed. maybe.
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Internet Wizard posted:Just set them off and call it done
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Eej posted:Just load them up and get out of there. What are they gonna do, shoot down a couple of B-52s loaded to the brim with nukes over their own territory? We're more diplomatically stuck than militarily. We don't want the nukes there, but removing them would be seen as a sign we were turning on a fellow NATO country.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:buffs rule https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlPEBROvR9w&t=97s
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Loden Taylor posted:We're more diplomatically stuck than militarily. We don't want the nukes there, but removing them would be seen as a sign we were turning on a fellow NATO country. So Trump's gonna do it tomorrow then.
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Don Dongington posted:So Trump's gonna do it tomorrow then. He'll probably announce he made a deal where we give Turkey the nukes in exchange for them fighting ISIS as long as they also pinky swear that they won't just bomb the Kurds and call it a day.
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Loden Taylor posted:He'll probably announce he made a deal where we give Turkey the nukes in exchange for them fighting ISIS as long as they also pinky swear that they won't just bomb the Kurds and call it a day. Stop giving him ideas
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I think the nuke panic (short term) is way overblown. Turkey hasn’t even oopsed and hit a US mil member with errant mortar fire or anything, and that would be less of a big deal than just stealing or holding hostage nukes.
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Nostalgia4Butts posted:gently caress yesss I got to see a B-52 fly a thousand feet below our E-3. They look ghostly in flight. Long, spindly body, and those enormous wings.
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mlmp08 posted:I think the nuke panic (short term) is way overblown. But it would make for a decent Jason Staham movie plot.
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mlmp08 posted:I think the nuke panic (short term) is way overblown. Without going into details, the Turks have American blood on their hands and it wasn't an oopsie.
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mlmp08 posted:I think the nuke panic (short term) is way overblown. Didnt they miss a kurd position and hit the us base a kilometer behind the kurd position and injured some us troops? Like the day after trump said gently caress the kurds?
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mlmp08 posted:I think the nuke panic (short term) is way overblown. It is, but like I said, it's less a matter of security and more of an issue of keeping up the veneer of good US - Turkey relations. Pulling the nukes out would send the message that we don't trust Turkey, we don't value them as a strategic partner, and that we may be preparing to take on a more adversarial stance towards them. Which is where my realpolitik understanding breaks down because seriously, gently caress Turkey, why do we need them in the first place?
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There was an “incident” when they first started operations that the Pentagon has said was intentional bracketing fire to keep the American forces from moving to support anybody.
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Stravag posted:Didnt they miss a kurd position amd hit the us base a kilometer behind the kurd position amd injured some us troops? No. There were unsubstantiated reports to that effect which DOD spokes discounted. Indirect fire uncomfortably close to CF forces that resulted in movement of US forces? Yes, that was confirmed by DOD. Pentagon officially did not call it bracketing. Some unnamed sources referred to it as bracketing.
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Getting owned by the turks to own the libs
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By the way, if you squint really, really hard, you can see the early signs of a mattering here. https://twitter.com/rachaelmbade/status/1184640771330396160
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facialimpediment posted:By the way, if you squint really, really hard, you can see the early signs of a mattering here. McConnell is starting to eyeball the emergency exits.
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BaconAndBullets posted:https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/16/politics/us-airstrike-storage-site-syria/index.html quote:Other US officials have accused the irregular Turkish forces, referred to by the US as Turkish Supported Opposition, of carrying out possible war crimes and threatening US troops in the area, with one senior administration official referring to them as "thugs and bandits and pirates that should be wiped off the face of the earth." Oh, goodie...
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BigDave posted:McConnell is starting to eyeball the emergency exits.
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Thought that was Graham Maybe both got pranked?
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Milo and POTUS posted:Thought that was Graham
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Loden Taylor posted:It is, but like I said, it's less a matter of security and more of an issue of keeping up the veneer of good US - Turkey relations. Pulling the nukes out would send the message that we don't trust Turkey, we don't value them as a strategic partner, and that we may be preparing to take on a more adversarial stance towards them. Agreed, gently caress Turkey. Buncha jerks.
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Don Dongington posted:So Trump's gonna do it tomorrow then. Nah. He'll figure out a third, even dumber thing to do.
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Stravag posted:Oh, goodie... Hail SS-18 I want to see another Battle of Khasham
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Eej posted:Just load them up and get out of there. What are they gonna do, shoot down a couple of B-52s loaded to the brim with nukes over their own territory? Interesting you should bring that up, and another reason why everybody should read Command and Control. Old-timey nukes were actually pretty prone to full or partial (fizzle) detonation in conditions like fires and plane crashes. Many improvements were made since then. I imagine shooting down a loaded BUFF may net you at least one slightly banged-up secondhand tactical nuclear weapon. Bring a backhoe. And lead undies.
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