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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/marthasadie/status/1184730811175702528?s=19 I mean this goes heavily against what was posted like two days ago where the centralised leadership seemed to be able to prevent other groups from doing things... Cat tax cannot be paid because awful app won’t upload the image 
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Azza Bamboo posted:Dragging the trespassers off the roof is fair and commendable. This is my view, dragging them off before they glue themselves, but throwing poo poo at their head and then dumping them on the ground for a mob bashing is wrong on all levels. Just drag him off, say whatever and let him trod off. I’m firmly in the “this is the alternative to using cars and carbon emitting vehicles, why would you choose this method of protest when it’s a positive thing and you’re disrupting it and annoying the people you’re trying to persuade. It’s idiotic.”
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ThomasPaine posted:I had to get a train from Glasgow to London this morning at very short notice and gently caress me they they charged me like 150 quid wtf Holy poo poo, a train from Warsaw to Düsseldorf - 1200 km across two countries, first class, last minute, is 120 EUR. British rail prices are absolutely insane.
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Oct 17, 2019 10:18
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Ah but you see socialists is politics whereas landlords is not politics because Centerists in not realising prevailing socioeconomic system is also a political ideology shocker. End of history! 
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Oct 17, 2019 10:22
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Mokotow posted:Holy poo poo, a train from Warsaw to Düsseldorf - 1200 km across two countries, first class, last minute, is 120 EUR. British rail prices are absolutely insane. Ime local trains are reasonable within Scotland but that big intercity ones down to England are a joke. It's completely ridiculous and I have zero clue how they get away with it.
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Necrothatcher posted:hahahaha  How is this even possible in 2019?
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Paging twisto back to the thread to post about this, promise I won’t mention snacks for the rest of the page.
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Azza Bamboo posted:Dragging the trespassers off the roof is fair and commendable. The second sentence seems so basic that I can't believe it's even necessary to say, let along something that might be argued. What the gently caress (certain posters in) UKMT?
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Oct 17, 2019 10:27
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The press are reporting a lot that labour will support the deal if it gets a referendum https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1184761979099111424?s=19
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:No I don't support the beatings up. Yeah, I was thinking along the same lines. It is not okay that the crowd beat up the demonstrators, but it's not exactly unpredictable. But rather than focus blame on the protestors who nudged the pot over the boiling point, I would consider why it's on permanent simmer in the first place*. Why are these commuters so miserable, stressed and paranoid all of the time that this is all it takes for them to start dispensing mob justice? I'd argue that it's because they know they're powerless to do anything about this commute that's making them miserable and that in itself is alienating and psychologically destructive. Then some wanker comes along and makes it even worse but hey, I can do something about this! And so the rage at every aspect of their commute becomes focussed on 2 poor idiots holding an unwise protest instead of the elites who treat everyone like cattle. So I would mostly blame the elites, who do not care how the system affects anyone else as long it works for them. It's weird how I keep coming to that conclusion. *I'm afraid I couldn't think of a way to get boots into my analogy
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That Italian Guy posted:
Because people have become even dumber than they were in 2008 OP.
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I mean this goes heavily against what was posted like two days ago where the centralised leadership seemed to be able to prevent other groups from doing things...  I got you fam
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https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1184764123822903296?s=19
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Absolutely insane to vote on this deal without giving it any analysis when there is no need to rush it through
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The problem is that the elites typically aren’t available to be protested against, you can only protest at and against their buildings where they’re safely tucked away inside and go home via the back exit. These protesters are directly in the public eye and when you do something stupid like this morning, the collective anger is Ofcourse going to be directed at you, even if you’re only partially (see like 10%) responsible for the collective anger.
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Kassad posted:How many billions? lmao they've said its not true
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https://twitter.com/JunckerEU/status/1184764705384124416 [e]: Jose posted:lmao they've said its not true https://twitter.com/skydavidblevins/status/1184766856340660229 
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Diet Crack posted:The problem is that the elites typically aren’t available to be protested against, you can only protest at and against their buildings where they’re safely tucked away inside and go home via the back exit. These protesters are directly in the public eye and when you do something stupid like this morning, the collective anger is Ofcourse going to be directed at you, even if you’re only partially (see like 10%) responsible for the collective anger. Yes. In one of the projects I was involved in (based in Corbyn's constituency actually - 25 years ago), I had no say in the origin of the project, but had to manage the processes involved and there were a whole heap of issues including social housing, waste management and so forth. A woman came up to me in the street and said "I want to punch you in the face because of what you said last night" - a public meeting had been held. I wasn't even there. The initials of the organisation I worked for were the same as the initials of a different organisation involved were there. This woman decided that as I represented an organisation with the same initials as that other one, and the other one had said something - I knew not what - at that public meeting that upset her, I deserved to have my face punched in. Luckily she was very short and wouldn't have been able to reach my face had she decided to put actions to the words.
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So if the bill passes on Saturday with the expectation of a confirmatory referendum attached, does that legally mean Boris no longer has to request an extension? He could then No Deal on Oct 31st and dodge the referendum?
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xtothez posted:So if the bill passes on Saturday with the expectation of a confirmatory referendum attached, does that legally mean Boris no longer has to request an extension? He could then No Deal on Oct 31st and dodge the referendum? An extension will be required to allow time for a second ref.
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Jose posted:Absolutely insane to vote on this deal without giving it any analysis when there is no need to rush it through There is every need to rush it through if you are Boris Johnson.
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mehall posted:
 Jaeluni Asjil posted:Yes. In one of the projects I was involved in (based in Corbyn's constituency actually - 25 years ago), I had no say in the origin of the project, but had to manage the processes involved and there were a whole heap of issues including social housing, waste management and so forth. A woman came up to me in the street and said "I want to punch you in the face because of what you said last night" - a public meeting had been held. I wasn't even there. The initials of the organisation I worked for were the same as the initials of a different organisation involved were there. This woman decided that as I represented an organisation with the same initials as that other one, and the other one had said something - I knew not what - at that public meeting that upset her, I deserved to have my face punched in. Luckily she was very short and wouldn't have been able to reach my face had she decided to put actions to the words. 
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Oct 17, 2019 10:53
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Well the deal had better pretty explicitly destroy both the union and people's homes or it'll win the referendum and Labour will lose the next election soon afterwards. No one will give a poo poo about GDP forecasts.
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So has Boris LIED about the Deal?
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namesake posted:Well the deal had better pretty explicitly destroy both the union and people's homes or it'll win the referendum and Labour will lose the next election soon afterwards.
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Guavanaut posted:BXP will kick up poo poo about any deal. Irrelevant, we'll have left and so their supporters will return to Tories or not vote. Either way they won't factor in.
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The real question will be whether the other option is remain or no deal, so it's still odds on that we'll have an impasse that can only be broken with a VONC. Guess we'll see though, the deal might not pass through parliament anyway.
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https://twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/1184771535229378562?s=21 So presumably Labour will vote against the deal but should it pass will seek to put it to a referendum?
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Noxville posted:https://twitter.com/dawnhfoster/status/1184771535229378562?s=21 Seems reasonable.
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FizFashizzle posted:So has Boris LIED about the Deal? They've agreed something, but we don't know any of the details - at all - the Number 10 press releases are saying they've squared the circle (highly doubtful). Most likely it involves throwing the DUP under the bus ( ), and has still got to actually be voted on this weekend.[e]: https://twitter.com/JenniferMerode/status/1184771672211181568
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namesake posted:Irrelevant, we'll have left and so their supporters will return to Tories or not vote. Either way they won't factor in.
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Noxville posted:So presumably Labour will vote against the deal but should it pass will seek to put it to a referendum? It needs to be the other way round - if an amendment is attached to the deal in parliament Labour will likely vote for the deal (which makes it easier to sell respecting the result of the referendum to voters in the next general), if the amendment fails they'll vote against citing risks to jobs/NHS/privitisation
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