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I'm cringing so hard right now: https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1184559361638748161 Edit: Honestly I seriously doubt he sent this letter to Erdogan though, especially on the date of the letter. Trish Regan is a bigtime propagandist for Trump, and this looks like an attempt by Trump to look tough for a domestic audience more than a genuine conversation he would have had with Erdogan back then. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 21:26 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Sinteres posted:Edit: Honestly I seriously doubt he sent this letter to Erdogan though, especially on the date of the letter. Trish Regan is a bigtime propagandist for Trump, and this looks like an attempt by Trump to look tough for a domestic audience more than a genuine conversation he would have had with Erdogan back then. Does it though? Does it really?
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If it had been dated this week I'd believe it but Oct. 9? Yeah, it's fake.
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It's definitely real as in something the White House says is real. It's just not clear that it's real as in a genuine communication between heads of state last week. https://twitter.com/katierogers/status/1184567346247163905
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Sinteres posted:It's definitely real as in something the White House says is real. It's just not clear that it's real as in a genuine communication between heads of state last week. Oh yeah, if it's confirmed then it only opens more questions.
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It really is hard to deny that the man's losing his mind: https://twitter.com/hillhulse/status/1184575552310644738 On the other hand, the Russians seem pretty loving smug: https://twitter.com/HenryJFoy/status/1184370975288238081 Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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Sinteres posted:It really is hard to deny that the man's losing his mind:  I still remember how he praised him like he was the second coming, back when he was the one that made him Secretary of Defense.Not tough enough...right lmao. He was definitely not known for being overtly-cautious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTXzcILPPp8 CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Oct 16, 2019 |
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He’s literally called the warrior monk.
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mattis has always been pretty deft at self promotion and building and maintaining his image. he struts around like he's macarthur after accepting the japanese surrender or patton after he shot that donkey and not a guy who spent the bulk of his career playing whack-a-mole with barely armed insurgents then got ripped off by elizabeth holmes
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Al-Saqr posted:" Folks, I love the PKK, greatest group in the world, so nice, wonderful costumes, the best, they even made me grand wizard! can you believe it? I was the best wizard with the pointiest hat and whitest cloak they ever had." alright I chuckled
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cargo cult posted:mattis has always been pretty deft at self promotion and building and maintaining his image. he struts around like he's macarthur after accepting the japanese surrender or patton after he shot that donkey and not a guy who spent the bulk of his career playing whack-a-mole with barely armed insurgents then got ripped off by elizabeth holmes I'm not here to sing the guy's praises, and IMO Mattis is a coward for swallowing his tongue but for some subtext in his resignation letter despite all the crazy poo poo going on, but obviously what Trump said about taking ISIS out in a month and claiming personal credit while saying he had a lovely do nothing Secretary of Defense was nuts.
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Gresh posted:so basically when the Russian troops enter a combat zone in syria This walk always looks so painful.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1184687862090010624?s=21 Well, he's not wrong. Timber Sycamore quote:David Ignatius, writing in The Washington Post, remarked that while the CIA program ultimately failed in its objective of removing Assad from power, it was hardly "bootless": "The program pumped many hundreds of millions of dollars to many dozens of militia groups. One knowledgeable official estimates that the CIA-backed fighters may have killed or wounded 100,000 Syrian soldiers and their allies over the past four years."[12] 100,000 people killed with US arms. And what did all those lives buy us? It's very hard to argue Obama spent them well (n.b. a lot of those deaths actually occurred under Trump).
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Squalid posted:100,000 people killed with US arms. This number seems a bit unfair to all the civilians those weapons killed/continue to kill/maim/wound as well.
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Squalid posted:https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1184687862090010624?s=21 To be specific it's 100,000 "Syrian soldiers and allies". The amount of civilians murdered with those weapons is presumably a lot higher.
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All US weapons come with a magic potion that removes your free will and agency, absolving you of any responsibility for anything done with it. Or any with non-US weapons your militia uses.
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CeeJee posted:All US weapons come with a magic potion that removes your free will and agency, absolving you of any responsibility for anything done with it. Or any with non-US weapons your militia uses. *Note: Magic potion only works as long as your militia is still in the good graces of the US.
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The SAA is in Kobane https://twitter.com/NPA_SY/status/1184515891528175618 https://twitter.com/GforGilgo/status/1184505558931574789 https://twitter.com/Zinvor/status/1184651443166429189
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From what I’m reading and watching it seems the SAA is beating Turkey to the punch in retaking areas which would be part of the buffer zone. Am I correct in that assessment? Also, how likely will things go back to the status quo in regards to the borders. It does not seem like anyone is for Turkey expanding into Syria.
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OK so let me get this straight, two opposing sides of a war that has been going on for 8 years are now joining forces against an external army? This really took a turn. Where's the FSA in all of this?
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orange sky posted:OK so let me get this straight, two opposing sides of a war that has been going on for 8 years are now joining forces against an external army? Mostly irrelevant, like they've been for years by now. E: If you're asking which side they're on, they've been a glorified Turkish puppet militia for some two years or so by now. Cerebral Bore fucked around with this message at 11:07 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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orange sky posted:Where's the FSA in all of this? What remains of the FSA is fighting for the Turks.
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orange sky posted:OK so let me get this straight, two opposing sides of a war that has been going on for 8 years are now joining forces against an external army? Yeah that’s what happens when Erdogan uses Jihadists as a tool. I think he’s forgetting that Bush started this poo poo show in the first place. Less Claypool fucked around with this message at 12:01 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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orange sky posted:OK so let me get this straight, two opposing sides of a war that has been going on for 8 years are now joining forces against an external army? The YPG and the Assad Regime were not opposing sides.
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Guys anyone has an accurate, updated map on how much the turks have conquered and how much area was handed to the regime? I cannot find any strategic map online/
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Less Claypool posted:Yeah that’s what happens when Erdogan uses Jihadists as a tool. Bush is also an irrelevant has-been that nobody aside from succ-dems and establishment Republicans care about. Obama has a lot more gravitas still within most of the DNC and a shitloa more ire of Trump’s base. Trump’s a craven, dementia-addled shithead, but he knows how to work that base, and they’re strung the gently caress out on hate juice and birther conspiracies still to this day.
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Savy Saracen salad posted:Guys anyone has an accurate, updated map on how much the turks have conquered and how much area was handed to the regime? I cannot find any strategic map online/
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Al-Saqr posted:The YPG and the Assad Regime were not opposing sides. 
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Pence may have been able to force his way into a meeting Erdogan didn't want to take, but this photo looks way more humiliating for Pence than Erdogan, especially contrasted with the reception Putin gets. You could say it's just because Pence is VP instead of President, but Merkel received similar treatment too: https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1184825555180511236 https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1184808918976995328 Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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They aren’t? They don’t like each other, but they aren’t officially opposing each other either. Frenemies, maybe? For the entire duration of the war there has been a Syrian state controlled zones in a few towns that the Kurds controlled otherwise. A few dumb westerners found that out the hard way by straying into those zones and getting sent to prison. The Kurds also were very careful to not be too independent akin to China/Taiwan. Edit: the US did bomb some incursions by SAA/Russian PMF, that were headed into SDF territory to retake oil fields, but neither side considered it to be all out war. freeasinbeer fucked around with this message at 14:59 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Grape posted:Putin is looking more and more like a weird little martian. Just as Trump, he'd rather look weirdly inhuman than old and frail. Turkey seems to have confirmed that they actually did receive Trump's letter, and that Erdogan threw it in the trash. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 15:12 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Providing aid to resettled refugees in Tel Abyad I imagine.Sinteres posted:Just as Trump, he'd rather look weirdly inhuman than old and frail.
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Cerebral Bore posted:To be specific it's 100,000 "Syrian soldiers and allies". The amount of civilians murdered with those weapons is presumably a lot higher. This is actually not true except only in the indirect sense that they helped prolong the war. Most casualties in the war have been combatants, and of civilian deaths the vast majority are attributable to government forces. There aren't reliable numbers for obvious reasons but going by some of the numbers from monitoring organizations US supported rebels might have only killed twice as many civilians as the US did while bombing the Islamic State, and an order of magnitude fewer than the Syrian government.
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