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ewiley posted:
Ferengimerica Edit- jfc what a terrible snipe 
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Oct 17, 2019 13:56
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Hey guys just postin to be sad about Elijah Cummings 
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Oct 17, 2019 13:57
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RIP to Elijah Cummings, one of the last genuinely good politicians we have, and just genuinely a good man with integrity 
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Oct 17, 2019 14:00
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NiceGuy posted:Hey guys just postin to be sad about Elijah Cummings Same  gonna have to find a biography.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:01
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ewiley posted:What's a catchy way to describe the net gain from higher taxes but lower costs of not paying for health insurance? There's got to be a good way to describe it. 
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Oct 17, 2019 14:02
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I know there was a goon who called this literal act of throwing the letter in the garbage so props to that guy. What's the countdown for when the stable genius escalates? Is it just me or does jr pissbaby sound like he is on the verge of crying the whole time? Is that just his voice? BigglesSWE posted:Before long, we’ll have a genuine “can’t have an election during an impeachment hoax” talking point. I have it on good authority that you also cannot triple stamp and double stamp. 
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Oct 17, 2019 14:04
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skylined! posted:Apparently Erdogan reversed course and is taking a meeting with pence. yea the actual story was that Erdogan said he would not be interested in discussing or agreeing to a cease fire, which to be fair IS the entire point of the trip so the story was basically 'this meeting is pointless then'. But yea it was never actually 'pence will be turned away at the door' or whatever, just 'erdogan doesn't give a poo poo what pence has to say, but yea he'll let him take his picture looking tough if he comes'.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:04
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Trump has responded. Second tweet for context. https://twitter.com/mannyfidel/status/1184816494590517248?s=20
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Oct 17, 2019 14:05
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The Turkish rep on NPR this morning said almost verbatim 'yeah we didn't take that seriously in fact we invaded shortly afterward it was nonsense.' The guy interviewing her asked her to repeat that like he couldn't believe she just outright said 'yeah that letter was stupid and incoherent.' Turkey is taking the total alpha male role in this relationship and Trump is gonna back down like the coward he is or Turkey's gonna get bombed. I'd love to see what his little sycophants think about it.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:05
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The talking point is "If goverment runs Thing, then all the costs are inflated because government bloats the cost of everything, $30K toilet seats, government unions demanding ridiculously high wages, etc. Private industry is more efficient at getting value for money because they trim all the fat" The refutation can start maybe with "An epipen in the US costs $6000"
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Oct 17, 2019 14:06
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skylined! posted:Trump has responded. Second tweet for context. It's so obvious he didn't write the tweet on the left, and putting it next to his mocking tweet about someone breaking into to Cummings' house makes that even more evident
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Oct 17, 2019 14:08
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Angry_Ed posted:It's so obvious he didn't write the tweet on the left, and putting it next to his mocking tweet about someone breaking into to Cummings' house makes that even more evident I dunno 'my warmest condolences' is basically the most Trump 'I want to sound smart' way to speak about a death
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Oct 17, 2019 14:09
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I feel like it's going to come out someday that every single tweet on Trump's account has been him and there never were any scavino or aide tweets. You know, just to gently caress with us.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:10
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Imagine being such a pathetic human being you look at Trump doing this poo poo and go “He’s such a strong man” 
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Oct 17, 2019 14:11
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Data Graham posted:I feel like it's going to come out someday that every single tweet on Trump's account has been him and there never were any scavino or aide tweets. The use of 'excoriate' essentially guarantees that this isn't possible
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Oct 17, 2019 14:12
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skylined! posted:Trump has responded. Second tweet for context. There's no way that rotten loving bastard wrote that Tweet; Scavino wrote it and they're playing keep-away with his phone.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:13
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Imagine being such a pathetic human being you look at Trump doing this poo poo and go “He’s such a strong man” I did a dumb thing and breezed over to r/the_donald and their main talking point is that this letter unilaterally stalled Turkey's advances, so it was obviously a masterstroke of genius. These people are completely brainwashed cultists. edit - reminder Sondland to testify today skylined! fucked around with this message at 14:15 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 14:13
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He tweeted condolences and then retweeted 5 of his older tweets loving garbage
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Oct 17, 2019 14:18
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Data Graham posted:The talking point is "If goverment runs Thing, then all the costs are inflated because government bloats the cost of everything, $30K toilet seats, government unions demanding ridiculously high wages, etc. Private industry is more efficient at getting value for money because they trim all the fat" The refutation can be "We already have government run healthcare and the government pays less for virtually everything than insurance companies do."
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Oct 17, 2019 14:20
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syntaxrigger posted:Is it just me or does jr pissbaby sound like he is on the verge of crying the whole time? Is that just his voice? Jr's just incredibly pissed and jealous that Hunter gets love and treated like a son from Biden while Big Trump Daddy doesn't even give Jr the time of day
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Oct 17, 2019 14:21
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Mahoning posted:The refutation can be "We already have government run healthcare and the government pays less for virtually everything than insurance companies do." I think this should probably be it. Medicare already cost-effectively covers tens of millions of the most expensive enrollees (seniors and the disabled) and you're only taxed 3% of your income for it. e: https://www.cms.gov/fastfacts/ hold up am I reading this correctly, that medicare covers 60M people and medicaid covers 75M people in the US? That's almost half the population. Expanding to M4A, even if it doubles or triples the medicare tax to 6 or 9% would be a goddamn steal compared to private insurance. I must be missing something here. ewiley fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 14:23
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CrocodileKingSaysNO posted:Why do people like Cummings die at 68 while these ghouls just hang around forever... drat, RIP It really is starting to get eerie how people that publicly oppose Trump eventually seem to die or suffer grave misfortune.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:25
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Kale posted:It really is starting to get eerie how people that publicly oppose Trump eventually seem to die or suffer grave misfortune. Who else? Cummings had health problems for a long time.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:26
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He tweeted condolences and then retweeted 5 of his older tweets He's some trash, man Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub Yo da dub dub Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub Yo da dub dub
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Oct 17, 2019 14:28
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So I've been avoiding the news because I'm becoming dangerously depressed. But then I saw the letter on a comedy site so...yeah. Looked up to see if the letter was real and it sure is and I caught a whiff of where impeachment effort is. Is this as bad as it seems? The president is really breaking down publicly. Half the country loves him because he promises more guns and fewer brown people. The White House has officially said they will ignore Congressional subpeonas. Even individual people are saying they'll ignore Congress. He's openly conspiring with Ukraine. And the Senate is going to let it all slide. Separation of powers has completely broken down and Conservatives are in a mad power grab and I think they're going to win. .Is this as bad as it seems?
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Oct 17, 2019 14:29
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skylined! posted:Apparently Erdogan reversed course and is taking a meeting with pence. Pointed out by someone smarter than I am, but apparently the fact the US flag isn’t behind Pence is an insult on its own. The only US flag showing in that pic is the tiny one on the table.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:29
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Mahoning posted:The refutation can be "We already have government run healthcare and the government pays less for virtually everything than insurance companies do." Or "I don't see any reps having problems with the government paid healthcare they receive while in office, and for certain spots they held, continues on after they leave office"
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Oct 17, 2019 14:30
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He tweeted condolences and then retweeted 5 of his older tweets Was gonna post this. He literally tried to push his own post off his Twitter feed with retweets.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:33
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He tweeted condolences and then retweeted 5 of his older tweets please tell me this isn't real.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:34
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https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1184824714759458817 Sondland appears to be trying to walk a line by saying (1) i'm very disappointed in this and (2) rudy was doing bad things but (3) the president did nothing wrong (?????) it seems very likely that he will get absolutely hosed if house investigators are prepared, because there are obviously lies built into this stupid story that allows him to be Concerned But Loyal and if they got good testimony from Hill/etc they should be able to tear it apart
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Oct 17, 2019 14:37
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Travic posted:So I've been avoiding the news because I'm becoming dangerously depressed. But then I saw the letter on a comedy site so...yeah. Looked up to see if the letter was real and it sure is and I caught a whiff of where impeachment effort is. Is this as bad as it seems? The president is really breaking down publicly. Half the country loves him because he promises more guns and fewer brown people. The White House has officially said they will ignore Congressional subpeonas. Even individual people are saying they'll ignore Congress. He's openly conspiring with Ukraine. And the Senate is going to let it all slide. A handful of subpoenas have been ignored; it will take a few more weeks to see if actual consequences will arise. It's not great but it's not over. As of yesterday, per a Gallup poll, 52% of those polled wanted trump impeached and *removed*. The letter is real, and he distributed it in a meeting with congressional leaders yesterday because he thought it made him look strong, and then very much melted down. His mind is obviously breaking. Half the country does not love him; his approval is around 40% and *strong* approval only 20-25%. His hard 'strong disapproval' is beyond 50%. The inquiry is still moving forward with substantial testimony including from Sondland today, who is expected to say that there *was* quid pro quo but it was legal so  There's more reason to be upbeat about fighting fascism than there has been in months, with democrats finally wielding their power to make an impeachment inquiry official, and republican fascists scrambling to figure out how to change the narrative. Public opinion is turning against them pretty rapidly, and there don't seem to be any good outcomes for them at this point. skylined! fucked around with this message at 14:40 on Oct 17, 2019 |
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Oct 17, 2019 14:37
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Travic posted:So I've been avoiding the news because I'm becoming dangerously depressed. But then I saw the letter on a comedy site so...yeah. Looked up to see if the letter was real and it sure is and I caught a whiff of where impeachment effort is. Is this as bad as it seems? The president is really breaking down publicly. Half the country loves him because he promises more guns and fewer brown people. The White House has officially said they will ignore Congressional subpeonas. Even individual people are saying they'll ignore Congress. He's openly conspiring with Ukraine. And the Senate is going to let it all slide. The White House has said it, but even now State Dept employees are telling Trump to go gently caress himself and showing up anyway. So far, I think only Rudy has actually defied a subpoena. Look, I'm not saying that impeachment and removal from office is likely at this point, but we're at a point where it's more likely than it has ever, ever been. The Senate GOP is caught between a rock and a hard place and a decent number of Republicans in the House are splitting publicly and supporting the impeachment inquiry. These things don't happen overnight. It hasn't even been a month. Relax.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:38
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eke out posted:Sondland appears to be trying to walk a line by saying (1) i'm very disappointed in this and (2) rudy was doing bad things but (3) the president did nothing wrong (?????) Also keep in mind that Democrats have been having staff lawyers doing questioning in these hearings in 45 minute chunks. It will be very difficult for Sondland to walk this line and also not perjure himself.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:39
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https://twitter.com/matthewamiller/status/1184825811293081601 additionally: Sondland's story still rests on the ludicrous idea that none of them knew that the point of investigating Burisma was that Hunter Biden was on the board skylined! posted:Also keep in mind that Democrats have been having staff lawyers doing questioning in these hearings in 45 minute chunks. It will be very difficult for Sondland to walk this line and also not perjure himself. yeah exactly, these are some extremely competent people doing the questioning and ridiculous cover stories like this will not hold up (especially given what we know about how other Actual Diplomats have told the truth)
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Oct 17, 2019 14:39
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skylined! posted:Also keep in mind that Democrats have been having staff lawyers doing questioning in these hearings in 45 minute chunks. It will be very difficult for Sondland to walk this line and also not perjure himself. This is smart. I remember that lawyer that took Lewandowski apart after he stonewalled during the first half of the hearing--hopefully they got some good legal minds.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:41
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eke out posted:
Sondland stealing notes from Don Jr's playbook of 'I'm too loving stupid to have known this was going on and also illegal' Fritz Coldcockin posted:This is smart. I remember that lawyer that took Lewandowski apart after he stonewalled during the first half of the hearing--hopefully they got some good legal minds. Tbh I'm more curious as to what republicans are doing during their 45 minute chunks. I imagine napping, or sharing Qanon conspiracies.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:42
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The important thing for M4A skeptics to realize is that hospitals have NO CLUE how much things costs. So the hospitals are really the ones jacking up prices to ungodly amounts. For a good majority of the services or procedures they perform, they just pull a made up (high) number out of the sky, knowing that the insurance companies will negotiate it lower. Except with Medicare/Medicaid, the government has a pricing list and the hospital can take it or leave it.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:42
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:He tweeted condolences and then retweeted 5 of his older tweets And this one: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1184820057001598976 Which is much closer to how he really feels about Cummings' passing.
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Oct 17, 2019 14:43
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Pence is definitely gonna have a bad day. https://twitter.com/seungminkim/status/1184808918976995328?s=21
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skylined! posted:Tbh I'm more curious as to what republicans are doing during their 45 minute chunks. I imagine napping, or sharing Qanon conspiracies. for people like sondland, I assume they're mostly going to defer and not ask questions, as they are effectively in the role of defending their guy in a deposition. their main job is to try to help him clean up anything he hosed up, if they can, and to try not to make anything worse. with people they know are hostile to them like Hill or Yovanovich, i bet there was at least some good chunks of spewing far-right conspiracies
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