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jesus WEP posted:Every time I hear about Dave’s brother I think about how Dave didn’t get to main event his dad’s funeral that was his brother who is like a prop comedian for corporate presentations, this was his brother-in-law who i don't know if we know anything about
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Oct 17, 2019 15:46
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MRT said brother and Dave has more of a record for being wrong about things, so I know who I believe
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Oct 17, 2019 15:47
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Thank you for your faith and trust.
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Oct 17, 2019 16:06
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are you gonna correct the record or what
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Oct 17, 2019 16:41
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In a rare instance, I thought Dave was being hyperbolic and I found myself agreeing more with Bryan, re: AEW stars being "actually over" or just "live over". Anyone who is watching Dynamite can tell from the presentation and the crowd reaction who the stars are. Darby and Marko got made last night.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:17
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i get dave's criteria, as he's talking about the general public outside of wrestling. the problem with his argument is that the list of "recent wrestlers with recognition outside of wrestling" is incredibly short, and pretty much no regular in wwe meets that criteria either. that, and i'm not sure the definition of "over" is having recognition outside of wrestling anymore.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:52
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Super No Vacancy posted:are you gonna correct the record or what I trust that Dave would never introduce a new "brother in law" character without properly establishing him first.
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Oct 17, 2019 18:55
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If someone, like a hypothetically steroid-addled weirdo named Shave Seltzer, married their sister their brother and brother in law would be the same person
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Oct 17, 2019 18:58
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i have receipts PROVING that mrt knows the anecdote is in reference to daves brother in law but i will give him another chance to correct the record before putting him on blast
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Oct 17, 2019 19:01
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i call him dumbass dave
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Oct 17, 2019 19:05
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Get his rear end
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Oct 17, 2019 19:07
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dave is pissy on WOR and it's a real great listen "I don't like stupid wrestlers that don't pay attention to history"
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Oct 17, 2019 19:55
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Classic WO lying: (after Dave first speaking was un listenable, he moved and fixed it) Jim Valley "don't worry, I'll edit it out"
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Oct 18, 2019 01:06
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Fumi Saito on the genesis of women's wrestling in Japan in the 50s: "There was a war, you know."
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sleepwalkers posted:i get dave's criteria, as he's talking about the general public outside of wrestling. the problem with his argument is that the list of "recent wrestlers with recognition outside of wrestling" is incredibly short, and pretty much no regular in wwe meets that criteria either. that, and i'm not sure the definition of "over" is having recognition outside of wrestling anymore. I think the big one that does fit Dave's point is Omega, honestly. They're starting to turn it around with this Moxley angle, but the losing streak thing did take a good bit of the shine off him. Especially because it's not like he was working a ton of indie dates (and I know it's because he has office duties at AEW, but still) to keep him fresh in the core audience's mind. Cody's been incredibly smart, honestly (shows the Rhodes in him) in booking himself strong, but using enough sleight of hand that people think he's not booking himself as one of the headline stars. (And that's not shade, he SHOULD be one of the top guys)
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Oct 18, 2019 01:43
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i saw the receipts and what mrt is doing is unconscionable
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Oct 18, 2019 01:49
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Bryan getting increasingly frustrated at people who say AEW should sign Bischoff on Observer Live is quite funny.
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Gaz-L posted:I think the big one that does fit Dave's point is Omega, honestly. They're starting to turn it around with this Moxley angle, but the losing streak thing did take a good bit of the shine off him. Especially because it's not like he was working a ton of indie dates (and I know it's because he has office duties at AEW, but still) to keep him fresh in the core audience's mind. Agreed but all it takes is a couple matches for Omega’s star talent to shine through. Between the dark match and the match last night my brothers (who knew he was good but hadn’t seen much of him) think he’s the best wrestler on the roster. I think the thing Dave was most correct about was the dark matches. They need to recap those things on the TV show and direct people to the YouTube / show highlights. They’re doing good storytelling on those things.
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Oct 18, 2019 02:12
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i like how in aew the top guys have different power levels in front of different crowds all the time. it's not just "gently caress this one guy who is getting pushed too much, we all want the other guy." it's a much more engrossing situation when one week cody got the biggest pops and then moxley gets the biggest pop and then on another show omega dwarfs everyone's. it's like back when people would argue over who was a bigger deal between austin and the rock as they were both happening. i didn't see this was the podcast thread. shari's berries
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frankenfreak posted:Fumi Saito on the genesis of women's wrestling in Japan in the 50s: "There was a war, you know." lmao fumi is the best
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Oct 18, 2019 03:20
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Bryan and Vinny are lost on me when they think Ortiz shouting THE BEST was a botch and took away from the promo. Just no.
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Oct 18, 2019 07:52
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Lmao at the guy saying cody booking himself as a top guy is subtle
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Oct 18, 2019 11:57
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Lid posted:Bryan and Vinny are lost on me when they think Ortiz shouting THE BEST was a botch and took away from the promo. Just no. dave also did not like it. starting my stalker twitter account as we speak
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Oct 18, 2019 12:14
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ICHIBAHN posted:Lmao at the guy saying cody booking himself as a top guy is subtle Hey, I actually don't think it's that subtle but 75% of people in the AEW thread talk how he's so humble to book himself in the opener or middle of the card.
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Oct 18, 2019 12:27
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Gaz-L posted:Hey, I actually don't think it's that subtle but 75% of people in the AEW thread talk how he's so humble to book himself in the opener or middle of the card. we really need a good gif of a heel tapping their head to indicate how smart they are for occasions such as this, the eddie murphy one is not RASSLIN' enough
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Oct 18, 2019 12:33
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Oct 18, 2019 13:39
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i love that bryan wants to put marko over all the time while keeping kayfabe about hating his guts
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Oct 18, 2019 14:39
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Lid posted:Bryan and THE BEST Vinny are lost on me THE BEST when they think Ortiz THE BEST shouting THE BEST was a botch and THE BEST took away from the THE BEST promo. Just no. THE BEST
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Oct 18, 2019 15:10
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Lol Bryan doesn't get Nuyoricans
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Oct 18, 2019 15:56
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Nor do I, what are they?
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ICHIBAHN posted:Nor do I, what are they? EYFBO
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ICHIBAHN posted:Nor do I, what are they? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuyorican Nuyorican is a portmanteau of the terms "New York" and "Puerto Rican" and refers to the members or culture of the Puerto Rican diaspora located in or around New York City, or of their descendants (especially those raised or still living in the New York area). This term could be used for Puerto Ricans living in other areas in the Northeast outside New York State. The term is also used by Islander Puerto Ricans (Puerto Ricans from Puerto Rico) to differentiate those of Puerto Rican descent from the Puerto Rico–born.
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one time i was in a public speaking course and a puerto rican woman did a presentation about how nuyoricans aren't real puerto ricans. in retrospect this was a pretty weird thing to do
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Super No Vacancy posted:one time i was in a public speaking course and a puerto rican woman did a presentation about how nuyoricans aren't real puerto ricans. in retrospect this was a pretty weird thing to do when i still lived in chicago i was out on a stoop watching the puerto rican pride day festivities (lots of flags, fireworks, and hanging out of open minivan doors, often simultaneously) and a friend was telling me that when his band went on tour they did a PR date and a lot of people there fuckin hate second-third-etc-gen puerto ricans in the states. said he was told it was like PR's version of white trash. anecdotal information so ymmv
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Oct 18, 2019 17:30
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I can't really think of any ethnic grouping that doesn't have fraught relations with its diaspora.
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Oct 18, 2019 17:49
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jesus WEP posted:i love that bryan wants to put marko over all the time while keeping kayfabe about hating his guts I came here to post this as well. Going to bat for him yet slipping in that "I hate the guy too" was 
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yea ok posted:hmm
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Oct 18, 2019 18:41
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We're going to do a live AAA simulcast watch along tonight at 6 pm PT/9 PM et at https://twitch.tv/rudospodcast come join us to watch lucha!
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Listened to the latest JCE cause it had him talking about the HiaC finish on it but sadly it wasn't as savage as I had hoped.
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