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Harrow posted:The ending of Crimson Flower is super I think the idea there is that either Byleth expended all of their Sothis power defeating the Immaculate One, or maybe having to help kill Rhea literally broke Sothis's heart (hence the Crest stone, which is her heart, shattering). I tested that idea that on that route. Tested if that connection was truly broken. Sothis is still a marriage choice Still appears to byleth and still says they will be together forever even when byleth is back to blue hair instead of green hair. In the end she’s a goddess the rules don’t matter.
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DropsySufferer posted:I tested that idea that on that route. Tested if that connection was truly broken. Sothis is still a marriage choice Still appears to byleth and still says they will be together forever even when byleth is back to blue hair instead of green hair. In the end she’s a goddess the rules don’t matter. Isn't she just a powerful alien
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Oct 18, 2019 07:47
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Andrast posted:Isn't she just a powerful alien the truth is out there
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Oct 18, 2019 07:48
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Andrast posted:Isn't she just a powerful alien Please share more about the hidden alien route I missed. 
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Oct 18, 2019 07:51
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Sothis has a star motif going on. Her name is a Greek reading of Sopdet, the Egyptian name for Sirius (and its personified goddess), the brightest star in the sky. Her special in Heroes is also called Sirius, and the theme for Rhea, who's obsessed with Sothis, is "Gazing at Sirius". Solon also calls Byleth, who he likely saw as her reincarnation, "Fell Star". Furthermore, Rhea explains that Sothis "came from somewhere far away and descended upon Fodlan". So yeah, probably an alien.
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Oct 18, 2019 09:09
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If I remember right, the lore for Fire Emblem has always been dragons come from outer space and were worshipped as Gods when they came to (Fire Emblem Planet). However, all dragons eventually go crazy unless they turn themselves into anime girls (bad part of lore). You can kinda theorise that they're aliens gradually becoming sick due to the planet's different conditions and they need to acclimate in order to survive. This all basically fits in with Sothis too.
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Oct 18, 2019 09:24
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Wait what?
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Oct 18, 2019 09:33
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Look it's obvious they came through the dragon's gate.
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Oct 18, 2019 09:39
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Calico Heart posted:If I remember right, the lore for Fire Emblem has always been dragons come from outer space and were worshipped as Gods when they came to (Fire Emblem Planet). However, all dragons eventually go crazy unless they turn themselves into anime girls (bad part of lore). They can also be anime boys
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Oct 18, 2019 09:51
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Seteth is top tier husbando material, for real.
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Oct 18, 2019 10:06
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Basileus777 posted:Great Lord has the best stats in the game and you're combining it with Dimitri, who is already the best unit statistically. It's probably the best of the lord classes as Edelgard's sucks (it's worse than great knight) and Barbarossa is just a Wyvern lord that's trading speed and axefaire for dex and bowfaire. Great Lord has objectively worse stats than Barbarossa, unless you think that 3HP and 1Luck is worth 1STR, 5 DEX, 1 DEF, 2 MVT. Dimitri also has barely better stats than Claude and worst ones than Edelgard's. Emperor having -4 SPD and 5 Move is kinda bad, and it having magic growth is a slap in the face given it doesn't have either magic casting or weight modifier. Still, it means Edelgard is the best lord both res wise, gambit wise, and for magic weapons, which can be useful. There is a solid argument for Emperor being the only lord final class being worse than an advanced class, though 
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Oct 18, 2019 10:24
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Arkeus posted:Great Lord has objectively worse stats than Barbarossa, unless you think that 3HP and 1Luck is worth 1STR, 5 DEX, 1 DEF, 2 MVT. Dimitri also has barely better stats than Claude and worst ones than Edelgard's. Dimitri has 60/50 STR/SPD Growth, Edelgard is 55/40, Claude is 40/55. Dimitri's offense growths are really good Great lord also gets 2 more speed than barbarossa. Like, it's still way worse than Barbarossa because of flying movement but otherwise Great lord is competitive. Andrast fucked around with this message at 10:50 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Oct 18, 2019 10:48
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Andrast posted:Dimitri has 60/50 STR/SPD Growth, Edelgard is 55/40, Claude is 40/55. Dimitri's offense growths are really good Great lord has the same speed as barbarossa when mounted. I don't think we can really go "We use unmounted barbarossa stats", here. It's not competitive, Barbarossa's just plain better. Yeah, Dimitri's Physical Offense is really good... but not his MAG/RES, and that greatly limit how he can be used. You can't say "he is the best unit statistically" when you only count specific stats, here.
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Oct 18, 2019 10:54
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Arkeus posted:Great lord has the same speed as barbarossa when mounted. I don't think we can really go "We use unmounted barbarossa stats", here. It's not competitive, Barbarossa's just plain better. That's not true. Barbarossa has +2 speed when mounted (and nothing when dismounted) while Great lord has +4 by default.
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Oct 18, 2019 10:55
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Andrast posted:That's not true. Barbarossa has +2 speed when mounted (and nothing when dismounted) while Great lord has +4 by default. You are correct, I somehow misread what serene forest said. I still don't think 3HP/1Luck/2SPD is competitive to 5Dex/1DEF/2MVT, but it's not as big a gap as I thought.
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Oct 18, 2019 11:01
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Arkeus posted:You are correct, I somehow misread what serene forest said. I still don't think 3HP/1Luck/2SPD is competitive to 5Dex/1DEF/2MVT, but it's not as big a gap as I thought. Well yeah, the movement alone makes barbarossa way better
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Oct 18, 2019 11:04
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Arkeus posted:Yeah, Dimitri's Physical Offense is really good... but not his MAG/RES, and that greatly limit how he can be used. You can't say "he is the best unit statistically" when you only count specific stats, here. Given how much this game rewards specialization I can't lose too much sleep over Dimitri, of all units, having bad Magic. Being really great at physical offense is significantly better than being "pretty good" across the board.
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Oct 18, 2019 13:14
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Calico Heart posted:anime girls (bad part of lore). ???
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Oct 18, 2019 13:34
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I think people are arguing at cross purposes. Dimitri has better character stats than Claude, but Claude has a better final class. (And weapon focus and battalion, imo)
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Oct 18, 2019 13:52
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Fangz posted:I think people are arguing at cross purposes. Dimitri has better character stats than Claude, but Claude has a better final class. (And weapon focus and battalion, imo) Well if we are going into weapons and battalions then we should acknowledge Dimitri's absolutely busted Battalion vantage + Battalion Wrath skill combo
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Oct 18, 2019 13:53
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Arkeus posted:Great Lord has objectively worse stats than Barbarossa, unless you think that 3HP and 1Luck is worth 1STR, 5 DEX, 1 DEF, 2 MVT. Dimitri also has barely better stats than Claude and worst ones than Edelgard's. I’d argue that Emperor is worse than Armored Lord because Edelgard’s custom armor gown is a very good look.
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Oct 18, 2019 13:59
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Why is the class named Barbarossa when his beard is quite clearly black and he will not return from death to lead Almyra into a new golden age?
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Oct 18, 2019 14:07
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Harrow posted:Given how much this game rewards specialization I can't lose too much sleep over Dimitri, of all units, having bad Magic. Being really great at physical offense is significantly better than being "pretty good" across the board. I do think there is something to be said for being able to use a bolting axe to trounce highly armored opponents with Edelgard. I don't know enough about maddening but my impression is that being able to target opponent's weaknesses is a good way to be good against everything. It would be better if Emperor could cast spells, though. No matter what, though, Edelgard's 35+5% Res growth rate actually helps a lot compared to Dimitri's 20%.
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Oct 18, 2019 14:20
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Andrast posted:Isn't she just a powerful alien Wait Does this make the Slithers XCOM, down to the MEC troopers and recruits who fail to do anything before dying
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Oct 18, 2019 14:37
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RBA Starblade posted:Wait kind of
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Cuntellectual posted:Seteth is top tier husbando material, for real. It's kind of funny how you would not expect him to be such a nice person from initial impressions, but Seteth really is just a good dude. All his supports are great.
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Oct 18, 2019 14:40
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Seteth is extremely dad
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Oct 18, 2019 14:41
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Even his weird overprotectiveness makes sense when you realize that yes, there really are a bunch of no-goods looking to harvest Flayn's delicious blood.
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Oct 18, 2019 14:44
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Andrast posted:kind of I guess it's more like XCOM 2 since they lost already quote:Even his weird overprotectiveness makes sense when you realize that yes, there really are a bunch of no-goods looking to harvest Flayn's delicious blood. New research project:
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RBA Starblade posted:I guess it's more like XCOM 2 since they lost already Actually FE3H is XCOM 3 after all, being set long after the xcommers ruined everything by overthrowing Advent, with Rhea etc being the remaining chosen trying to hold everything together and Sothis being an ethereal. Byleth literally has the glowing hair of an avatar.
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Oct 18, 2019 15:01
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Andrast posted:Seteth is extremely daddy
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Seteth and Flayn are awesome characters who are a lot of fun to be around. IMO the twist that they're father and daughter is really cool and but the twist that they're dragon saint gods doesn't work as well for me. I dunno, I just feel like it takes away from Rhea's backstory a bit.
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Calico Heart posted:Seteth and Flayn are awesome characters who are a lot of fun to be around. IMO the twist that they're father and daughter is really cool and but the twist that they're dragon saint gods doesn't work as well for me. I dunno, I just feel like it takes away from Rhea's backstory a bit. That's the most generous usage of the word "twist" I have ever seen
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I thought the father and daughter thing is incredibly obvious, the Saint thing is much more amusing and it's mostly a bit annoying that nothing comes of it
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Oct 18, 2019 15:34
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I'm still working through my first run (GD). I finished the War at Grondor mission, Ch 17 I think it was, this morning. How close to the end am I?
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Oct 18, 2019 15:46
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The immortal saint thing is plot-relevant in Church, outside of that it mostly just provides further context to Flayn's fellow kids routine and Seteth's wise councillor schtick in their supports
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Oct 18, 2019 15:49
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blizzardvizard posted:The immortal saint thing is plot-relevant in Church, outside of that it mostly just provides further context to Flayn's fellow kids routine and Seteth's wise councillor schtick in their supports It's more fun if they're just weird. They're weird enough to just be weirdos but they don't really act weird enough to literally be figures of worship walking around on earth
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Oct 18, 2019 15:59
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Wildtortilla posted:I'm still working through my first run (GD). I finished the War at Grondor mission, Ch 17 I think it was, this morning. How close to the end am I? You have about 6 missions left.
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Oct 18, 2019 16:07
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The thing I appreciate about Seteth and Flayn secretly being church saints is that it's never harped on or even really brought up directly unless you go out of your way to make them do poo poo like fight the other saints in paralogues. It's just a neat setting detail you can pick up on and go "oh huh that's cool" without it being some huge plot bomb.
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Calico Heart posted:It's more fun if they're just weird. They're weird enough to just be weirdos but they don't really act weird enough to literally be figures of worship walking around on earth Nah, that's like the entire point. The Slithers and Edelgard see the whole War in mythic Man vs God-alien terms but the presence of Flayn and Seteth show that ultimately the Children of the Goddess are just a bunch of goofs like everyone else, and the entire ideology and thousand year grudge of the slithers is dumb. Whatever the real issues are with the Systems, the race war they are super into doesn't actually exist. The framework would be rather different if the sole representative of the children is Rhea. Fangz fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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