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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1184995740923449347 This may not be the best metaphor for the president to use https://www.cbsnews.com/news/friendship-tree-planted-by-president-trump-and-macron-has-died/ thegalagakid posted:Mattis has this weird cult following in the service I never really understood. Even the Hilliary supporters I know on this base are all in on it. He was supposed to be the 'adult in the room' forcing trump to do the right thing and showing that a grizzled war vet would work for trump therefore trump should be respected or something. I worked with a chud who had this 'saint mattis' picture up on his cube wall.
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ewiley posted:He was supposed to be the 'adult in the room' forcing trump to do the right thing and showing that a grizzled war vet would work for trump therefore trump should be respected or something. I worked with a chud who had this 'saint mattis' picture up on his cube wall. The_Donald subreddit was filled with Chuck Norris-like adulation of Mattis every other day right up until he quit. To prevent their minds from shattering they fled to 'His job is done and he needs to make way for other people' before eventually turning on him. Its a fascinating place.
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abelwingnut posted:nsfw: turkey used white phosphorus gently caress  Turkey should genuinely be kicked out of NATO for this poo poo
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ewiley posted:He was supposed to be the 'adult in the room' forcing trump to do the right thing and showing that a grizzled war vet would work for trump therefore trump should be respected or something. I worked with a chud who had this 'saint mattis' picture up on his cube wall. As explained to me by a servicemember: He made it a point to be seen as treating everyone down to the lowest private equally, taking care of his men his utmost priority. In an institution where it's well known that leadership will probably treat you like poo poo and also half of them are incompetent idiots, his desire to listen to the concerns of all his men and also always appear that he knew exactly what was going on made him well-liked. His insane quotes like 'be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet' and his, uh, work in Iraq (gaining him the 'mad dog' nickname) made him a legend. He was revered way before trump because he made it a point to be seen as the everyman general - you know, a general who told it like it is and also made it clear he was always on the knife's edge ready to kill you. Marines love that poo poo. Trump's admin just propelled him to popularity outside the armed forces.
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TulliusCicero posted:gently caress They're completely taking advantage of their situation as a buffer state; their removal from NATO sets up some real nasty theoreticals wrt Russian attempts at annexing more land and kinda makes NATO obsolete. edit not so say I don't agree; the whole thing is hosed because trump and pompeo and pence are loving morons who employ morons and are actively trying to end the world. There are no good options anymore. Also Fahrenthold deserves a pulitzer https://twitter.com/Fahrenthold/status/1184911926050078721?s=20 skylined! fucked around with this message at 13:03 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Tree Bucket posted:Quick question from a curious foreigner- is gerrymandering something that is, well, widely understood? Is it only politics nerds that care about it? Is anyone out there defending it? it's reasonable well understood, but it falls squarely in the "well, what can we do about it" side of things.
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Gamerofthegame posted:it's reasonable well understood, but it falls squarely in the "well, what can we do about it" side of things. It’s also convoluted because it’s something both sides legitimately do, but often for different reasons, which is why you get resistance to fixing it. In blue states there’s often internal gerrymandering to produce minority-majority districts because that’s about the only way to bet minority representation in Congress, because even White democrats rarely vote for black representatives.
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Vichan posted:LMAO that clown was parading around the 'deal' like he was the great peacemaker only for the rest of the world to ignore him yet again. Almost everyone in the world thinks we are a joke, and that we are a bunch of fat racist idiots that elected a side show clown. Even as as historian I have never seen a time in modern history where American clout mattered so little, and frankly if our leaders are this loving stupid, we deserve that
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skylined! posted:In today's impeachment news: I feel like you could say, "Their testimony could prove damaging to Trump," about anyone who had been around him for more than five minutes.
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Grouchio posted:Is Pennsylvaia the only recent state to undo its gerrymandering? I think NC kind of did? I forgot where we left off with that. I remember something along the lines of it's not as good as we hoped for, but still better.
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TulliusCicero posted:Even as as historian I have never seen a time in modern history where American clout mattered so little Good. What the gently caress is so great about this country anyway?
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Pollyanna posted:Good. What the gently caress is so great about this country anyway? "BUT AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM!"  I completely agree btw. We have only proven how completely stupid and insane we are
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It's a little bit late, and it might not be as much help as I'm hoping, but for everyone who's feeling lost that there could be so many people who have undying support for dear leader, the truth is a little more complicated than simply "they're horrible cultists." Some of them are, sure. There are diehard far right extremists who do hate everyone and everything that isn't them, but most of what we see as the GOP's hard floor of 37% isn't Trumpist ride-or-die chuds, they're just people who are privileged enough and isolated enough to have no stake in the system at all. A huge majority of the country has very little interest in its actions and its operations, and really do treat their party affiliation as a sports team and it goes no deeper than that. It's fair to say that a lot of those people are as incurious as Trump is, but the maliciousness and cruelty aren't the draw for them -- they honestly don't know it's there. Most people don't watch the news at all, couldn't tell you who the speaker of the house was (if they even knew there was such a person) and don't do anything other than vote every 4 years purely based on party affiliation that they've likely inherited. So.... I don' t know that this really makes you feel any better, but I do take some comfort in the fact that the image is very skewed by being well-informed, among other well-informed people, and looking at Twitter where all the bad people are really loud. Granted, it's not that comforting that most people are the quintessential White Moderate who don't care and can't be made to, but it's a little better than slavering death cultists. A little.
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Gort posted:The obvious answer is that the legal system and impeachment enquiry are so slow that it feels like we'll all be dead before anything is done. Things are moving between ten to twenty times faster than they did in the Watergate investigation. It literally can't go any faster.
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Gort posted:It's a politics nerd thing. People understand it, or referendum banning it would not succeed when but before the electorate, and it does.
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Stereotype posted:That district is loving absurd and the GOP are rubbing it everyone’s faces that they’ve stollen our democracy I don't think Crenshaw is that smart. He doesn't see gerrymandering there because he doesn't understand what it is
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Pollyanna posted:Good. What the gently caress is so great about this country anyway? Music.
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Ershalim posted:It's a little bit late, and it might not be as much help as I'm hoping, but for everyone who's feeling lost that there could be so many people who have undying support for dear leader, the truth is a little more complicated than simply "they're horrible cultists." Some of them are, sure. There are diehard far right extremists who do hate everyone and everything that isn't them, but most of what we see as the GOP's hard floor of 37% isn't Trumpist ride-or-die chuds, they're just people who are privileged enough and isolated enough to have no stake in the system at all. Okay. So what do we do about them?
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Gettin' owned by every lovely dictator to trigger the libs Pollyanna posted:Okay. So what do we do about them? PJ has hit on it a lot -- one of the things that needs to change is that we need leadership that can speak to people with something for them to believe in. It's unlikely to come from the leadership we have now, but it's not like that's impossible. It might take outside actors like activists or even weird places like youtube stars, but it's definitely possible to change complacency and indolence to something useful, if temporary.
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lmao Turkey straight up threatening Trump and disregarding NATO. Trump will do nothing of course.
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^Kinda getting The Last Mohican vibe here. Where the Brits surrender their fort and are allowed safe passage only to be massacred on the way to safetyewiley posted:This may not be the best metaphor for the president to use "You elect a racist moron. It's gotta crime. Get that extra time -- we'll have more crimes crimes crimes." SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 14:06 on Oct 18, 2019 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1185173683373035525[url] Trump always liked Andrew Jackson, now he gets his own Trail of Tears in Syria
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/1185173683373035525 My heart is broken for these people. I think what has happened in N. Syria is a pretty good representation of the Trump presidency. Basically because of Trump's ignorance and impulsiveness people have lost their lives and their homes.
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Turkey yesterday said that they had not agreed to a ceasefire so I’m not sure why the media is surprised
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FlamingLiberal posted:Turkey yesterday said that they had not agreed to a ceasefire so I’m not sure why the media is surprised yes, but they agreed to stop shooting kurds in the territory they are conquering for 120 hours and they're not even doing that Erdogan is literally denying the attacks they've done since that agreement, so it's pretty obvious they are pretending to be following it publicly
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"The FAKE NEWS is reporting about the bombs, but my good friend Erdogan, in a perfect call, told me he wasn't doing anything. Your favourite president (me) delivers. WITCH HUNT"
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eke out posted:yes, but they agreed to stop shooting kurds in the territory they are conquering for 120 hours and they're not even doing that Ya it's pretty much fascism 101 at this point, and our own fascists were too dumb or too happy to agree to let them do it.
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Prester Jane posted:I was relating a personal anecdote about how severely economic are activity in the area dried up in the wake of the Great Recession. And it is kind of relevant because Chapel Hill Mall is only about 10 miles away from the infamous Rolling Acres Mall, the mall that became basically the simple of dying malls in the Midwest. ( also a place I spent thousands of happy hours of my childhood/teenage years goofing around in) I think a bigger reason that those malls are dying (have died) in addition to malls just dying everywhere is that the Summit Mall is like 10 miles away and wayyyyyy nicer. And its ALWAYS busy. (I saw LeBron there once...I guess that makes me Very Ohio)
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Their stupidity is its own psyop. Just loving amazing. https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1185182842143334400?s=20
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TulliusCicero posted:Turkey should genuinely be kicked out of NATO for this poo poo The only way is to dissolve NATO.
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skylined! posted:Their stupidity is its own psyop. Just loving amazing. This is how you know someone is trying to pull one over on you and the media is a bunch of loving suckers for not kicking their asses over this poo poo.
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skylined! posted:They're completely taking advantage of their situation as a buffer state; their removal from NATO sets up some real nasty theoreticals wrt Russian attempts at annexing more land and kinda makes NATO obsolete.
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dwarf74 posted:I don't think there is any mechanism wherein a country can be kicked out of NATO. Monnkkeeyyyyyssss pppaaaawwww
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Mahoning posted:I think a bigger reason that those malls are dying (have died) in addition to malls just dying everywhere is that the Summit Mall is like 10 miles away and wayyyyyy nicer. And its ALWAYS busy. (I saw LeBron there once...I guess that makes me Very Ohio) yeah, dead malls aren't often a sign of general economic decline, because malls tend to be built around population centers which have economic inertia the biggest causes of dead malls are 1) too many malls built in the 1980's and 90's, so there are surplus malls now and 2) internet retail if a mall is the only mall in an area, and there are adequate people, and the people have a decent amount of money, then something will fill that mall, even if it's a bible camp go kart track or something
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