|
General Olloth posted:The tax is painting them. Or not.
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 18:06
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 21:40 |
|
|
TTerrible posted:Or not. Tax dodging is a crime
|
|
#
?
Oct 17, 2019 19:56
|
|
|
You cannot tax what isn’t built.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 13:54
|
|
|
You can make endless spreadsheets about it though.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 14:07
|
|
|
Speaking of boring-rear end non-veteran Legion Tactical Squads and spreadsheets and hypotheticals and things unbuilt: Legion Tactical Squad with bolt rifles: add chainswords or don’t add chainswords? Is this an obvious yes, an obvious no, or a depends-on-your-list? (This concerns me as a modeler, obviously, because adding a nuncio-vox or a legion vexilla is as easy as building/painting another guy with it and swapping him out for one of the guys without, but the chainswords are unit-wide and on every model....) Stephenls fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Oct 18, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 21:45
|
|
|
Stephenls posted:Legion Tactical Squad with bolt rifles With what?
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 22:23
|
|
|
TTerrible posted:With what? Jesus loving Christ. Anyway you know what I mean. “Not-bolt-pistols.” In my defence, regular bolters are rifle-shaped. I have somehow managed to divide the things in my head into “bolt pistols” and “bolt rifles,” with “bolter” as a generic term, which I know is wrong but have consciously remember is wrong any time it comes up. Stephenls fucked around with this message at 22:30 on Oct 18, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 22:27
|
|
|
Stephenls posted:Speaking of boring-rear end non-veteran Legion Tactical Squads and spreadsheets and hypotheticals and things unbuilt: Heinous primaris bolter terminology aside, it depends, but luckily both a chainsword and a 'combat blade' do the same thing rules wise. The combat blades are just little knives you can put on the belt in the mkiv and mkiii kits. So it depends on your list, but you can glue some on their rear end later no problem if you want, and most people won't get close enough to your model to look for knives or not. We just tell our opponents the wargear at the start for those usually. It is somewhat hard to even see them at the battlefield level.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 22:40
|
|
|
Stephenls posted:Jesus loving Christ. Kid you better buckle up, you’re posting in a historical thread.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 23:30
|
|
|
I pretty much always just take the extra close combat weapons, because you might as well. If the points are tight dropping them to get something more important to fit in isn't a huge deal. I just start with them added by default and go from their. Some armies (read World Eaters) might just not take the Bolter to maximize guys on foot running across the table, or you might just have your troops with just bolters to sit on objectives and produce nothing else. I think having a huge squad blast things apart with fury of the legion then charge in next turn is the peak of what 30k should be. Just do it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 18, 2019 23:45
|
|
|
Stephenls posted:Speaking of boring-rear end non-veteran Legion Tactical Squads and spreadsheets and hypotheticals and things unbuilt: I always model my dudes with the extra ccw cause it looks rad, so long as you are very clear about what has what to your opponent and it shouldn't matter.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 00:19
|
|
|
Completely dependent on the tacs intended roll. If you’re attaching a big character and trying to get into CC yeah absolutely throw in chainswords. If they’re just an objective grabber: they’ll probably just get shot a lot anyways so who cares keep them cheap.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 00:20
|
|
|
Over here just chortlin' at anyone who doesn't put swords on their tacticals. I have to otherwise my legion rules don't do anything positive.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 00:22
|
|
|
Safety Factor posted:Over here just chortlin' at anyone who doesn't put swords on their tacticals. Its a shame sabre's are not swords.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 00:26
|
|
|
Safety Factor posted:
Your Legion rules are their own reward 
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 03:07
|
|
|
First heresy event in 12 months tomorrow, will take some pics as it’s a sick group of hobby dudes and report back. Chonk List, 2500 points, only fatties allowed 
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 09:42
|
|
|
Stephenls posted:(This concerns me as a modeler, obviously, because adding a nuncio-vox or a legion vexilla is as easy as building/painting another guy with it and swapping him out for one of the guys without, but the chainswords are unit-wide and on every model....) A lot of the bolter kits come with cool chain-bayonettes. That being said, it is one of the few upgrades that people don’t care about being wysiwyg in my experience.
|
|
#
?
Oct 19, 2019 17:19
|
|
|
 "Aww, gently caress." - Alpharius, 010.M31
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2019 02:36
|
|
|
Ghazk posted:A lot of the bolter kits come with cool chain-bayonettes. That being said, it is one of the few upgrades that people don’t care about being wysiwyg in my experience. IIRC, MKIII/MKIV kits come with enough sheathed chainswords/blades respectively.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2019 13:04
|
|
|
JcDent posted:IIRC, MKIII/MKIV kits come with enough sheathed chainswords/blades respectively. Indeed they do, and in the case of the MkIII kit, the sheathed swords are even slightly smaller than the unsheathed one, to make it easier to attach them to the MkIII rear end without dragging on the ground. Speaking of...    Significantly less happy with this guy a few days after the fact than I was when I first put him together. Proportions look off and all the crap I stuck to his belt sort of wrecks his silhouette. Also I made these...  ...and the process of doing so sort of made me want to die, so I don't know if I'll be pursuing that line of inquiry anymore.
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2019 17:16
|
|
|
Stephenls posted:Also I made these... Have you ever considered making marines except..shorter?
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2019 22:08
|
|
|
adamantium|wang posted:
What kind of lame rear end Primarch gets killed by his own weapon?
|
|
#
?
Oct 21, 2019 22:44
|
|
|
I find that in a regular game tacs want to have just bolters or just bolt pistols and swords and only rarely want to spend the extra points to have both. ZM encourages thStephenls posted:Indeed they do, and in the case of the MkIII kit, the sheathed swords are even slightly smaller than the unsheathed one, to make it easier to attach them to the MkIII rear end without dragging on the ground. Speaking of... Cool bolt rifles.
|
|
#
?
Oct 22, 2019 00:57
|
|
|
Yeah, if you want truescale marines, it's less painful and probably faster to learn 3D modeling and print them.
|
|
#
?
Oct 22, 2019 07:06
|
|
|
JcDent posted:Yeah, if you want truescale marines, it's less painful and probably faster to learn 3D modeling and print them. God drat it.
|
|
#
?
Oct 22, 2019 07:21
|
|
|
I've seen people add a 1mm spacer between the torso and hips, which is stupid easy and gets covered by the bolter most of the time. The knees look a little low, but it beats producing your own line of miniatures.
|
|
#
?
Oct 22, 2019 15:45
|
|
|
For Mark VI legs the options really are just the four in the 2008 plastic Tacticals, the five pairs of running/jumping FW resin legs in their MkVI kit, and the occasional random plastic MkVI leg pair scattered around for variety in stuff like the Assault Marines, right? I feel like the freedom afforded by the Prospero/Calth plastics has given me unrealistic expectations the amount of variety that “ought” to be available for any given armor mark.
|
|
#
?
Oct 22, 2019 22:10
|
|
|
Mark V come with a total of 2 (two) different legs.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 00:29
|
|
|
adamantium|wang posted:Mark V come with a total of 2 (two) different legs. Really? Don’t they have one sprue of three and one of two?
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 01:00
|
|
|
I mean the FW resin ones. Wish I realised that before I bought ten.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 01:46
|
|
|
adamantium|wang posted:I mean the FW resin ones. Wish I realised that before I bought ten. I think the mkv bolter mans and assault squad have different legs? Expensive but can mix those up I guess.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 01:50
|
|
|
My mkV are stashed somewhere, but looking at the FW site it seems like they've got three leg types. Standing, stepping, and running. Might even be two running poses? Can't really tell. The assault squad version is definitely just two sculpts though. Running and sass.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 02:13
|
|
|
Safety Factor posted:My mkV are stashed somewhere, but looking at the FW site it seems like they've got three leg types. Standing, stepping, and running. Might even be two running poses? Can't really tell. Looks like two distinct standing poses as well—one with two feet planted firmly on the ground, one with the right foot down solidly and the left foot just touching the ground with its toes, but with the ankle up. The two different running poses could be one running pose, with one of them reshaped a bit using hot water or a heat gun, but going from a solid stance to a stance with one foot just toes down is pretty difficult to re-pose, even for resin.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 05:56
|
|
|
 Well, that settles that. The resin MkVIs are about 1mm taller than the plastic MkVIs and only about one 1mm short of my scaled-up-2008-tactical-kit MkVI. Adding a 0.5mm spacer at the waist and neck would be both trivial and produce exactly the height I want, especially in conjunction with a slighty taller base. This did require a bit of re-posing the legs using a mug of hot water, but that'd be necessary anyway when using multiple resin kits.
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 09:19
|
|
|
Trip report The lads at SEQsy Heresy here in sunny Brisbane down in Aus put on a great monthly event day at one of the local taverns so it was beers and heresy on the menu. I took my Imperial fists in a 2.5k Pride ROW with a Gallant LOW choice to pad out the points because I have been a lazy piece of hobby garbage all year and needed more bodies. Event day style is two games with random opponent, traitors vs loyalist and a 3rd casual pick up game if you are still keen after. This was a 2.5k Shadow Wars themed event with all the missions and scoring taken from that book. We have 24 dudes looking for heresy dates and got stuck in. I played against Word Bearers and Night Lords and managed to scrap wins out of both even though I was rusty as gently caress by playing the missions. My opponents were super cool peeps and the hobby levels were fantastic of everyone who attended. Fully painted only and the tables were all top notch. Some pics of my games       and some of random tables   
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 10:13
|
|
|
Is that metallic yellow? Very nice!
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 10:21
|
|
|
Lord Twisted posted:Is that metallic yellow? Very nice! Yes thank you sir, yes it is 
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 10:35
|
|
|
"Summoning demons, are you? WELL, I CAST FIST!" - Termie sarge, probably
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 11:15
|
|
|
That table full of crashed drop pod terrain 
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 11:27
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 15, 2024 21:40 |
|
|
TTerrible posted:That table full of crashed drop pod terrain I think it might be an orbital assault
|
|
#
?
Oct 23, 2019 20:42
|
|