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Skex posted:https://twitter.com/CrankyAssCajun/status/1185615938252611584?s=19 Yeah that’s about right.
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Skex posted:https://twitter.com/CrankyAssCajun/status/1185615938252611584?s=19 It’s almost like they wanted to share data with other entities but still maintain plausible deniability 
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Wylie posted:Just so we all know what domino's next to fall, Pompeo's position here is this: President Trump and his closest advisors released military aid to Ukraine based on their conclusion that Ukraine had taken steps to reduce corruption and, as a bonus, they at the same time realized that even though the EU wasn't sending Ukraine lethal aid, they were sending them non-lethal aid, so Trump's point about "Europe doesn't help you so much" can be explained away. Pretty much - the problem is that, even with this evolution, it's still predicated upon dismissing Mulvaney as a liar, or, in the case of the clip, pretending that he never said anything. I'm slightly impressed that they at least have something relatively coherent, but it may have taken them too long to reach this point.
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Jealous Cow posted:It’s almost like they wanted to share data with other entities but still maintain plausible deniability Nah, this is pretty obviously a Hanlon's razor situation, imo
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Paracaidas posted:the more essential the infrastructure, the further those in power will go to maintain/regain it. That's exactly the point
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Jealous Cow posted:It’s almost like they wanted to share data with other entities but still maintain plausible deniability I’m a tech consultant and have seen the backends of dozens of very large companies storing very sensitive data. This is much more common than you’d think
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Skex posted:https://twitter.com/CrankyAssCajun/status/1185615938252611584?s=19 Now that the cats out of the bag they'll surely have to switch it 0000
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Just wanted to say that this was a good read. Almost made me feel something like...hope?
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Skex posted:https://twitter.com/CrankyAssCajun/status/1185615938252611584?s=19 Didn't even replace the i with a 1, very sloppy.
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Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society.
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Paracaidas posted:We've actually got a somewhat relevant look at what happens when a major global shipping/distribution/supply chain eats poo poo, thanks to NotPetya... Well then I guess since it's foolhardy to directly confront the system our only real choice is to cheer from the safety of the Free Speech zones and vote as hard as we can for leftists. Everything you just wrote has been the standard line for people protecting their privilege since time immemorial- "the system is too strong you can't fight it", "the power of the body politic is a fantasy", "the only way we can win is if we color inside the lines and never inconvenience the rich/comfortable" etc. Martin Luther King Jr. got his start as a labor organizer who organized the exact kind of intentionally disruptive strikes I am talking about here. And your entire list of talking points is the exact nonsense that the comfortable white moderates he called a "greater obstacle to the cause of liberty" than open racists. You're making the same old tired/nonsense arguments that comfortable moderates always make whenever social disruption becomes necessary. This song from half a century ago was literally made to mock the exact worldview and arguments you are presenting here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA And for good measure: Letter from a Birmingham jail posted:
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whether applied to congressional politics, local governance, or nationwide collective action. It's the flipside of the same coin as Sorkin's pablum, that the system(and/or media) will save us all, if only the levers of power were manned by intelligent and moral people.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society. Arrogance. That's all it is. It's arrogance, plain and simple. People who think they're so goddamn unique that they don't need to take basic IT precautions because durrrr it'll never happen to me, I'm too special!
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I’m trying to imagine the speech Trump would have given in Obama’s place at that memorial service at that Boston church in the aftermath of the bombings...
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Jealous Cow posted:It’s almost like they wanted to share data with other entities but still maintain plausible deniability FYI the code that operates the majority of voting machines in this country was freely available for years on a public-facing website until an activist happened to find it. No password necessary you just had to know where the webpage was and you could download the entire source code for all Diebold voting machines.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society. The universal answer: Because it works the way it is, changing everything to do things the right way is a difficult and expensive pain in the rear end, and it hasn't caused a problem yet. The specific-to-corporate-America answer: all of the above, plus, if something does go wrong, you don't want your fingerprints anywhere near it. For something like this, I would bet quite a bit of money that the "admin/admin" setup was a temporary testing thing some junior IT operator set up in five minutes. Then people started using it for real, and "change the password" ended up at the bottom of a to-do list because it wasn't visible to the executives who were demanding all kinds of other things get done right now. By the time anybody had a chance to look at it, disseminating the change out to everybody and testing the systems would have been a major change coordination project that nobody wants to do. I've never worked at Equifax and know nothing about their systems past that article, but it's a tale as old as time. It's not just IT, either. Massive amounts of critical infrastructure everywhere are held together by half-assed systems that work just well enough people don't want to replace them, which end up ossified in place because they'd be a tremendous pain in the rear end to change. A streamlined exterior over a rotten interior still sells, after all.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society. People on the job just want to get to work, and as cyber security has become more prevalent in software and OSes, they are getting asked for their password more and more often. I’m not surprised most places go with a simple, easy password (though cmon, anything’s better than “admin”). I’m not sure what the best solution is other than OSes allowing password managers to be more powerful or for everyone to convert to the Correct Horse Battery Staple system. But we’re never going to improve things as long as we keep having this attitude of “of course you were hacked, your password is terrible! You should’ve chosen this long complicated one you’ll need to ask the IT guy for 59 times a day because the OS is incapable of remembering the password”.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society. I’m a network guy who cares a lot about security because I deal with PHI and I don’t want to go to jail if I make a bad decision. I spend a significant amount of my work week telling other people why the things they want to do are bad ideas from a security standpoint. At least in my experience it’s typically a combination of laziness and ignorance. We IT people aren’t necessarily more intelligent or competent than the average person. The fact that admin/admin was used is astoundingly stupid. Setting strong credentials is literally the second thing on my checklist when I deploy something. And the fact that it wasn’t caught by a security audit could suggest that either security audits don’t happen, or are inadequate.
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Magugu posted:Was this in reference to something, or just random Twitter diarrhea? Boston Marathon Bombing
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Boston Marathon Bombing Honestly assumed he meant the kurds here
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society. Security is often levied as an additional requirement by a separate office after development is complete, forcing teams to accommodate it with bandaid fixes in a “check the box” mentality. Implementing it is never going to result in a better user experience and can often force developers to rework a bunch of stuff because the version of Redhat they developed around doesn’t get the right patches anymore or something. The relationship between developers, users, and security is totally adversarial. It only works well when software is designed with security in mind from the very beginning, which isn’t ever going to happen when using legacy junk. ime at least Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Edit: Nah, that's gonna get me doxxed and fired. IT security is lol because it costs money and clients hate it.
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Who exactly are the dumb bastards he's internet yelling at?
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I'm not sure if Secretary Pompeo clearly being in a cold sweat over the issue equates to him being ice cold.
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Mulvaney had to have been personally directly to do what he did by Trump himself because the dumbass thought it would make him look good. And now that it’s backfired everyone’s running away.
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Fallom posted:The relationship between developers, users, and security is totally adversarial. I think the key thing that people tend to miss is that security is designed without respect to culture at all. In a vacuum, a long complicated password that is different for every service and every person is more secure, but when applied to human behavior, that requirement undermines itself because people don't actually work that way. It's sort of where the STEMlord caricature comes from -- someone who is undeniably clever, but functionally only makes things worse because their projections don't take into account the lived experience of people who aren't them. Most forms of bureaucracy suffer from the exact some problem, though they compound it by adding in bias towards corporate and profits over all. Of course, it usually plays out with the people who use it hating the people who made it and visa versa, so it's a problem that never gets solved.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Have there been psychological studies on why supposedly intelligent and otherwise competent people are so embarrassingly awful at IT security? Because this is a thing at every level of society. Password policies simply don't make sense. The idea that I can remember a bunch of unique passwords that may have to change every 90 days is complete nonsense. It's not possible to comply with password systems as designed. To function, it's simply necessary to evade steps: mostly, password reuse, and for that dumb 90 day poo poo, incrementing passwords. That said, running a massively important DB with admin/admin isn't a failing of individual users, that's an IT department fuckup.
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Phobic Nest posted:Who exactly are the dumb bastards he's internet yelling at? OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA (it's from 2013, op)
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Passwords on sticky notes near the workstation are actually one of the most realistic aspects of adventure games
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I have nothing to contribute but I really wanna dog tax because we had a breakthrough in Wheelin' yesterday. video keeps getting clipped, ah well. Ghetto SuperCzar fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Phobic Nest posted:Who exactly are the dumb bastards he's internet yelling at? Gen. Ripper posted:OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Oh. Should've realized.
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:I have nothing to contribute but I really wanna dog tax because we had a breakthrough in Wheelin' yesterday. I sent you a PM.
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Fallom posted:Passwords on sticky notes near the workstation are actually one of the most realistic aspects of adventure games Totally. I used to work in IT for my local council, and there was one old lady who had password problems every now and again. And was usually when she lost the piece of paper or sticky note it was written on. Another place, had one computer and about 5 workers. The password was stuck under the monitor for any of them to use. Thankfully we had that one really restricted access to the network.
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a_pineapple posted:We IT people aren’t necessarily more intelligent or competent than the average person.
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A nationalized identity system that can be easily plugged into. It's the only way we are even going to think about climbing out of the personal data hell world we have created. Passwords be damned, we've mostly already accepted finger print ID, and since we grow it should be a key that can be updated regularly. There is always going to be a way to hide your identity. But for those things where I need to be myself I need to know it's secure(encrypted, which means updated, all encryption can be busted in time) , monitored(by the NSA, those assholes who already have all our data, they should be working for us.) and can have a real enforceable public policy associated with it( legislation, rather than EULAS). I as US Joe citizen need my identity secured as a matter of business, national security, and safety. Till we solve this there will be no functional Medicare for all, privacy ceases to exist, the obscenely rich will continue to hide their wealth, speech will be manipulated by dark shadow cabals of oligarchs, and weapons will flow unchecked. I know everyone will say it can't be done, but it really must if we hope to fix this hellworld.
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Prester Jane posted:Well then I guess since it's foolhardy to directly confront the system our only real choice is to cheer from the safety of the Free Speech sounds and vote as hard as we can for leftists. Prester Jane posted:This is the fundamental logical mistake that all centrists and anyone who does the whole "choose the lesser of two evils" shtick. It's a false choice that contrasts the preferred option with oblivion; and then further expects to be applauded for the adultness of this thinking instead of having its selfish childishness mocked. Prester Jane posted:This is a rather irritating intellectual copout that centrists frequently utilize; demand their interlocutor provide them with a detailed/itemized list of exactly how to fix every single problem and the timeline to implement those solutions before they are allowed to argue that being an enabler for evil is bad and you should stop doing it. I appreciate your repeated efforts to ensure that everyone is familiar with the Letter from Birmingham Jail. Certainly better than most civics classes do. I hope, though, most will engage with the text (and context) to gain their own understanding that can be compared with your interpretation. The main thrust, from what I can tell, of your calls for collective action has been that the flow of this dynamic goes injustice->direct action->justice. This has been, in (some) historical cases, accurate. Those pointing out that the end you imagine is neither guaranteed nor inevitable are not neccesarily comfortable centrists trying to avoid inconveniencing the puppeteering elite. Some people weigh the likelihood of carnage and death from your proposals (especially under the lens of your worldview, with catastrophic violence from the death cult imminent or already occuring) against the likelihood and impact of success and find that they pale in effectiveness to other means (including other forms of direct action!) but at much greater cost. There may be merit to understanding and engaging with the critique rather than treating it all as if it comes from Skex but  e: threaded tweets long, separate topics, making doublepost
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There will be no Medicare 4 all. There will be no revolution. Not until we consolidate the data centers
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