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Oct 20, 2019 13:32
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ah yes this is *spins wheel* ... cargo cult
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Oct 20, 2019 13:33
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Mr. Lobe posted:the idea that anyone would consider trotsky or trotskyists a serious threat or political target of significance in the 21st century is baffling to me iirc Ho Chi Minh theorized that cryptofascist organizations that wanted left credibility would inevitably identify as trotskyist based on patterns he observed with trotskyist organizations and the guy himself
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Oct 20, 2019 13:38
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I thought that was just taken as fact as the neocons emerged from the trots in the 50s
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Oct 20, 2019 13:44
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CYBEReris posted:iirc Ho Chi Minh theorized that cryptofascist organizations that wanted left credibility would inevitably identify as trotskyist based on patterns he observed with trotskyist organizations and the guy himself
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Oct 20, 2019 13:45
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that tweet is from the red guards though, or rather the austin version under their new name, who behave like crypto-fascist trots
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Oct 20, 2019 13:46
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:that tweet is from the red guards though, or rather the austin version under their new name, who behave like crypto-fascist trots well that’s because they’re cops cosplaying as shining path
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Oct 20, 2019 13:48
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Mr. Lobe posted:it seems like stalinists are more fixated on trotsky than any trotskyists I have personally known it’s good though because it completely alienates them from working class movements. like while we’re organizing unions and holding public meetings about building the capacity for public sector strikes, they’re holding reading groups about why trotskyists are bad and wondering why all the workers are joining us and being misled by our obvious social fascism and not being drawn to their bright golden banner
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Oct 20, 2019 15:11
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please don't lump all marxist-leninists in with the austin pd's red guards
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Oct 20, 2019 15:25
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:ah yes this is *spins wheel* ... cargo cult look if you want to tell me how the conflict between trotsky and stalin in the 1920's maps onto the 21st century in any meaningful way I'm all ears but to me a ritual like beating an effigy of a politician who was successfully assassinated 80 years ago looks more than a little like behavior driven by magical thinking
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Oct 20, 2019 16:15
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Looks like people having fun to me. *good people with politically correct ideology beat up a pinata shaped like Nazi collaborationist counter-revolutionary* "how could they destroy this effigy of a politician  "
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Oct 20, 2019 16:22
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the only people ive ever heard describe trotsky as a nazi collaborator are some of the most unhinged people ive ever met. all young, all poli sci majors who have never organized a thing, all completely hostile to working class movements and fighters. theyve read a billion things by weirdos like grover furr which explain why the molotov ribbentrop pact wasnt collaboration but have no clue how to make an email sign up sheet in word, or manage a spreadsheet of contacts, or run a meeting or even the most basic initial steps of how to organize a union. their professional leftbook/forums posters and they have no interest in an actual revolution, theyre just larpers who like the color red.
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Oct 20, 2019 16:36
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27 year old white liberal arts major wearing ushanka in the middle of july: trotsky and all trotskyists are nazi collaborators 42 year old UPS driver whos a shop steward for her teamsters local: wtf is a trotsky?
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Oct 20, 2019 16:41
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i knew a bunch of people in college who were serious trotskyist or anti-trotskyist and every single one of them who still is active in organizing doesn’t give a poo poo about any of that anymore because it’s loving stupid
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Oct 20, 2019 16:42
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THS posted:i knew a bunch of people in college who were serious trotskyist or anti-trotskyist and every single one of them who still is active in organizing doesn’t give a poo poo about any of that anymore because it’s loving stupid what about the ones that aren't still active in organizing
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Oct 20, 2019 16:45
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Mr. Lobe posted:what about the ones that aren't still active in organizing They're posting in here
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Oct 20, 2019 17:19
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are trotski's communist bronies?
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Oct 20, 2019 17:26
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that the US maoists are getting more criticism in here for a Trotsky piñata than they did for assaulting an elderly DSA volunteer in Kansas City
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Oct 20, 2019 17:29
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Atrocious Joe posted:that the US maoists are getting more criticism in here for a Trotsky piñata than they did for assaulting an elderly DSA volunteer in Kansas City what do you suppose is the over/under on them being actual maoists vs cops?
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Oct 20, 2019 17:38
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Mr. Lobe posted:what do you suppose is the over/under on them being actual maoists vs cops? There at least a few cops in there certainly. Google Brandon Darby
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Oct 20, 2019 17:46
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Atrocious Joe posted:assaulting an elderly DSA volunteer Direct action gets the goods
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Oct 20, 2019 18:12
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Atrocious Joe posted:that the US maoists are getting more criticism in here for a Trotsky piñata than they did for assaulting an elderly DSA volunteer in Kansas City that's because it's funny and stress relieving to argue about trotsky and whether he was a sex criminal for the 100th time and its depressing and stressful to consider the growing reality of direct political violence, some of which is cops who learned how to imitate retarded college Maoists and are now committing some in our name
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Oct 20, 2019 19:16
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trotsky had a train
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Oct 20, 2019 19:27
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Larry Parrish posted:since im not a fake leftist im gonna say he's good. probably the worst thing i can say about him is he's a trot i have long suspected as much
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Oct 20, 2019 19:42
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Karl Barks posted:There at least a few cops in there certainly. Google Brandon Darby circumstantially, they can’t even operate without federal funding
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Oct 20, 2019 19:54
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"homex is a trot" is the only phrase that will make him rereg
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Oct 20, 2019 20:02
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homex is a trot
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Oct 20, 2019 20:03
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apropos to nothing posted:it’s good though because it completely alienates them from working class movements. like while we’re organizing unions and holding public meetings about building the capacity for public sector strikes, they’re holding reading groups about why trotskyists are bad and wondering why all the workers are joining us and being misled by our obvious social fascism and not being drawn to their bright golden banner it also bears mention that out of all the DSA caucuses, the Trot ones were the most organized and honestly the only ones that were able to present anything in a meaningful and detailed manner but that's the DSA, so lmao
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Oct 20, 2019 20:14
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i say swears online posted:"homex is a trot" is the only phrase that will make him rereg hey, if it's a Bloody Mary, I'll sing the refrain homex is a trot
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Oct 20, 2019 20:14
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homex is a trot
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Oct 21, 2019 00:19
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:homex is a trot
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Oct 21, 2019 00:27
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homex is a thot
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Oct 21, 2019 00:41
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homex is a trot! (turns light off, hook rips my throat out)
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Oct 21, 2019 01:28
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big business man posted:im dumb as hell and will not pretend otherwise!! ok now i trust you, unironically
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Oct 21, 2019 01:31
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apropos to nothing posted:it’s good though because it completely alienates them from working class movements. like while we’re organizing unions and holding public meetings about building the capacity for public sector strikes, they’re holding reading groups about why trotskyists are bad and wondering why all the workers are joining us and being misled by our obvious social fascism and not being drawn to their bright golden banner 
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Oct 21, 2019 01:40
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that being said, dsa killed rosa
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Oct 21, 2019 01:49
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DSA are social facists who killed Rosa Trots are sexpests who are about tonturn into neocons Stalinists are armchair academics who pretend to be the arbiters of true leftist politics Anarchists are lifestylists who pretend being a punk rock burnout is a political identity Maoists are middle to upper class individuals who overdosed on white guilt Am I missing anything?
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Oct 21, 2019 02:04
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Leninists are too smart & sexy, and you’ll never get a revolution going by making everyone feel so inadequate.
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Oct 21, 2019 02:07
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the majority of jacobin, labor notes, and a major dsa faction are Trotskyist
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Oct 21, 2019 02:47
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big business man posted:the majority of jacobin, labor notes, and a major dsa faction are Trotskyist https://twitter.com/turing_police/status/1186065586419142656?s=20
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Oct 21, 2019 02:59
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