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Didn't palms and other devices have their own weird rear end alphabet for writing? I figure that was because the recognition for the stylus input was still really lovely.
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:Do they not already Yes, in the same way that polaroids 50 years ago had a polaroid filter.
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twistedmentat posted:Didn't palms and other devices have their own weird rear end alphabet for writing? I figure that was because the recognition for the stylus input was still really lovely. Yeah, it was an alphabet where each letter was a single stylus stroke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) Pretty good idea when the alternative is pecking at a tiny on-screen keyboard.
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Cojawfee posted:Yes, in the same way that polaroids 50 years ago had a polaroid filter. You know, it really is incredible how many "classic" cameras could pull off the Instagram look way before Insta was invented. They really were ahead of their times - if only people back in the day knew.
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Oct 15, 2019 20:06
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Pham Nuwen posted:Yeah, it was an alphabet where each letter was a single stylus stroke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) No poo poo: it was like speed-needlepoint with the bonus of added irritating noise. Not just the sound of plastic stylus hitting plastic screen either. They felt the need to add an additional clicking sound effect for each tap, too. Why?
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Pham Nuwen posted:Yeah, it was an alphabet where each letter was a single stylus stroke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) I had a Palm III and got fluent enough in Grafitti that it was /almost/ faster than pecking at the keyboard. I was extremely impressed trying out a Note 9's handwriting recognition.
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Dicty Brojangles posted:You know, it really is incredible how many "classic" cameras could pull off the Instagram look way before Insta was invented. They really were ahead of their times - if only people back in the day knew. Filters for cell phone cameras took off because they made bad photos look artistic. Stuff like the Hipstamatic app that a journalist took with them to Iraq to make terrible looking iPhone 4 photos look marginally less terrible.  It looks like it should be part of a Facebook post that references both America and angels. But yeah, the retro look that filters try to emulate are just crappy cameras. Stuff like disposable 35mm or a 110 camera. Actual good old cameras still take better photos than cell phones.
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Pham Nuwen posted:Yeah, it was an alphabet where each letter was a single stylus stroke: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graffiti_(Palm_OS) For some reason I remember it being more wonky than that. I remember selling keyboards that were portable for the HP palm.
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I wish WebOS had taken off. I had a Palm Pre, Palm Pre 2, and even a HP Pre 3. The pre 3 never came out to the public because HP cancelled it but a ton of them were given to AT&T employees who just put them up on eBay and that’s how I got mine.
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I had an orange handspring that I loving loved until the day I dropped it and shattered the screen.
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GutBomb posted:I wish WebOS had taken off. I had a Palm Pre, Palm Pre 2, and even a HP Pre 3. The pre 3 never came out to the public because HP cancelled it but a ton of them were given to AT&T employees who just put them up on eBay and that’s how I got mine. "LuneOS is the open source successor for Palm/HP webOS where the user interface is rebuilt from scratch by using the latest technologies available (Qt 5.6.0 / QML, QtWebEngine, etc)" so I don't know if's actually as good was WebOS was, but it might be an option. The Pinephone is about to ship developer phones and LuneOS is listed as one of the OSes that should be getting ports, so you might have a $150 WebOS (ish) phone available soon.
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My iPAQ which I think had Windows Mobile 2002 on it seemed fine to me  It didn't have a phone or WiFi or any other wireless connectivity, so I assume that improved the battery life. It was reasonable for taking notes (it had handwriting recognition that mostly worked with normal handwriting IIRC), playing solitaire (maybe I downloaded some other games for it?), listening to MP3s, reading PDFs, reminders, etc. Yes, it wasn't long before we had phones which could do all that stuff but it was pretty cool at the time.Also, because it had an infra-red port for talking to a PC (I just used a cable for that though), you could get an app which you could use as a universal remote control. Oh yeah I used the wrong tense, I still have it but I haven't thought about it in a long time. I wonder how badly the battery is wrecked from not being charged for many years.
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I had an iPaq too, and bought a little d-pad/button dock thing that you slide onto the bottom of it and played NES ROMs on it when I rode the bus to work.
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GutBomb posted:I wish WebOS had taken off. I had a Palm Pre, Palm Pre 2, and even a HP Pre 3. The pre 3 never came out to the public because HP cancelled it but a ton of them were given to AT&T employees who just put them up on eBay and that’s how I got mine. Hell yes, current hot poo poo gesture nav 10 years ahead of its time. Google's Pixel full gesture nav is basically lifted straight from WebOS at this point (with a couple small differences).
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Buttcoin purse posted:My iPAQ which I think had Windows Mobile 2002 on it seemed fine to me  I had the T-Mobile branded one of these and somehow managed to get basically unlimited minutes when they had some super deal going on. I think I had 10,000 minutes a month so basically 5 and some change hours a day. Couple this with free dial-up access from the college I was going to it was basically 3G internet before it existed. This was before phone web access was anothing more than text based WAP (I think) websites and way before wifi was everywhere. It was cool as poo poo to browse the full internet in class/from anywhere. I think I could somehow pair it to my laptop with bluetooth and use it as basically a 56k wireless modem. The thing was kind of a piece of poo poo though, I bought it used so had a really nice leather case, but it was almost too big to put in your pocket and making actual calls was a pain in the rear end, texts were great though. Of course it's completely worthless now that 4G is usually faster than wifi almost everywhere but was awesome at the time.
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I had a Palm III, a V, a Handspring Prism, and finally a Treo 650 phone. I miss the PalmOS 
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Also miss my Palm Pre. I just picked up a Palm IIIe from a thrift store for five bucks. Never used one back in the day, but it should be a fun toy.
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It's potato quality but I still have my N97 and N900:
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Just give me a modern version of the N900, with a full proper Linux distro underneath a Qt-based interface. I want a KDE phone, dammit.
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KozmoNaut posted:Just give me a modern version of the N900, with a full proper Linux distro underneath a Qt-based interface. I want a KDE phone, dammit. you're gonna take your E17 phone and like it
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Arivia posted:you're gonna take your E17 phone and like it Man, whatever happened to Enlightenment?
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sirbeefalot posted:Hell yes, current hot poo poo gesture nav 10 years ahead of its time. Google's Pixel full gesture nav is basically lifted straight from WebOS at this point (with a couple small differences).
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KozmoNaut posted:Just give me a modern version of the N900, with a full proper Linux distro underneath a Qt-based interface. I want a KDE phone, dammit. Pinephone is already booting KDE Plasma. The caveat is it doesn't have a physical keyboard but if any company is going to make a phone with a real keyboard it's going to be them, the guys who make Linux hardware to sell at-cost.
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The Pinephone is probably the closest to what I want, and I'm already keeping an eye on it.
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the complicated VFX process of converting the random flailing of sandra bullock's fingers to typed text on a computer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7_HFyzoGc from a time in-between computers being popular but post screen replacements being a bit too tricky
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I want one of those .justice government email addresses. FBI.justice is so weird, but it occurred to me that .gov might not have even been a thing in 1994. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 14:52 on Oct 20, 2019 |
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Krispy Wafer posted:I want one of those .justice government email addresses. .gov has been around since 1985, apparently, though FBI.gov is indeed younger - it's from 1995.
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bring back old gbs posted:the complicated VFX process of converting the random flailing of sandra bullock's fingers to typed text on a computer. Most UI stuff on sets are playback or comped in later (as most phone screens don't look great on camera). Some sets get semi interactive and have controls respond to touch or movements or something like a basic flash interface. I think the Matrix sequels had it so controls moved pitch and yaw displays. Much of that stuff is a pain on set as it's on playback loops so if anything ties in with the action actors have to figure out the timing or a cue. It's better to get it comped in later, plus it causes less continuity errors. Stuff like the displays on Trek were video playbacks on CRT screens. So the shutter speed on cameras were locked as to not have refresh pulsing. Later on LCD screens fixed that, in amusing ways, like the tiny windows on Enterprise that could just fit a screen for the starfield. Nowadays it's massive panels that project proper lighting into the set. Oblivion is one example of that, the apartment set was all display panels. The other amusing thing is interfaces in movies inspiring things, such as Minority Reports's floating touch interface, with its little nods of awkwardness of use with the whole thing sliding off when Cruise's character goes in for a handshake that sold it as possible. This tends to bleed into actual development where reality bites as while something like a minority report thing is roughly doable. It would be exhausting to use and very error prone.
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BogDew posted:Most UI stuff on sets are playback or comped in later (as most phone screens don't look great on camera).
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Krispy Wafer posted:I want one of those .justice government email addresses. for.great.justice
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BogDew posted:Nowadays it's massive panels that project proper lighting into the set. Oblivion is one example of that, the apartment set was all display panels.
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BogDew posted:It's a common effect. They did it as far back as War Games. In that case it was a program setup to "type" no matter what was pressed. Thank you very much for this! The following poster, too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tFe6-MnJVU
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madeintaipei posted:Thank you very much for this! The following poster, too!  holy poo poo
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Last Chance posted:
Same reaction, but mostly about the mustache at 1:02.
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Trabant posted:Same reaction, but mostly about the mustache at 1:02. 
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Kinda/sorta related, the real underlaying the unreal in a very real way: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm3squcz7Aw Really: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJg02ivYzSs e: The first one makes more sense with the full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rPKeUXjEvE madeintaipei has a new favorite as of 22:38 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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madeintaipei posted:Kinda/sorta related, the real underlaying the unreal in a very real way: The last one really got a few friends for a bit. Awesome yet scary tech when mixed with Adobes VoCo in the works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUK6rEUZAcA EDIT: arrr! If Will Smith decided on The Matrix and not Wild Wild West: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h-yy3h1u04 (Fun Fact: I actually did know the spoon kid around those days and yes he was also weird IRL) Humphreys has a new favorite as of 13:45 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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madeintaipei posted:
GotDAMN 
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BogDew posted:Most UI stuff on sets are playback or comped in later (as most phone screens don't look great on camera). As a teenager I got really annoyed when Nedry was talking to the guy at the docks in Jurassic Park. "It's a goddamn QuickTime file! They didn't even block the progress bar from showing!"
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