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Have they been playing this Carl Weathers commercial all weekend?
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Cynic Jester posted:Can't wait for all the decks oppressed by fields that neuter Oko to come out in style, like - Error: ENOENT: no such file or directory. GW adventure tokens is the only thing that qualifies, but that's assuming that Oko decks can't adapt if they don't have to deal with field themselves.
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Oct 21, 2019 00:33
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With fields gone people can actually do stuff like play removal / counters and maybe a control deck can actually make an appearance - well, until everyone goes back to jamming 4x Teferi in every deck.
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Oct 21, 2019 00:45
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Man if this is one of Golos's worse matchups then there's just no way Field survives - the games Javier wins are relying in a series of topdecks both early and late, or the Golos player making a missequence.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:00
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Kinda glad I got my golos and field for commander before they took off. I fully expect Wizards to ban something incidental to golos field like circuitous route., and nothing else.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:18
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gruul needs two series to do it but its about to do it.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:23
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wotc still does paper PTs (MCs), right?
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Oct 21, 2019 01:25
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Embercleave is a sweet card
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Oct 21, 2019 01:28
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My pre-release promo was Embercleave, I hope I can sell it for like 50 dollars now
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Oct 21, 2019 01:29
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Javier won with Gruul but it was still not a good deck for the tournament.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:33
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Hellsau posted:Man if this is one of Golos's worse matchups then there's just no way Field survives - the games Javier wins are relying in a series of topdecks both early and late, or the Golos player making a missequence. yea the matchup looks awful on paper but golos gets a huge win % boost from how inconsistent gruul is. anyone who says their deck "crushes" golos is a liar.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:38
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Javier won with Gruul but it was still not a good deck for the tournament. He barely squeaked by against Golos, presumably one of his better matchups, both in the upper bracket match and in that final match.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:38
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Tom Clancy is Dead posted:Javier won with Gruul but it was still not a good deck for the tournament. if you're dead-set against playing golos for whatever reason it was a good choice. the best anti-golos decks are gruul, mono red, and u/g flash, and gruul is the only one out of those that doesn't have a dogshit matchup against the u/g midrange nonsense that people are going to insist on playing little munchkin fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 01:41
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little munchkin posted:if you're dead-set against playing golos for whatever reason it was a good choice. the best anti-golos decks are gruul, mono red, and u/g flash, and gruul is the only one out of those that doesn't have a dogshit matchup against the u/g midrange nonsense that people are going to insist on player Eh, I think the knights deck is better than flash in the matchup. Just barely anyway.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:42
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Sickening posted:Eh, I think the knights deck is better than flash in the matchup. Just barely anyway. knights is ok but it has way too few ways to push through damage once the zombies come out to chump block. also the lack of hasty stuff makes it so that spot removal out of the sideboard is backbreaking for the record i don't actually think flash is that good either
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Oct 21, 2019 01:46
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Sickening posted:Eh, I think the knights deck is better than flash in the matchup. Just barely anyway. Knights looked nonfunctional in the matches I saw.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:46
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little munchkin posted:if you're dead-set against playing golos for whatever reason it was a good choice. the best anti-golos decks are gruul, mono red, and u/g flash, and gruul is the only one out of those that doesn't have a dogshit matchup against the u/g midrange nonsense that people are going to insist on playing I think Ken's Mardu knights build was much better if you wanted to embercleave people, and probably the best deck for the tournament overall. Hellsau posted:He barely squeaked by against Golos, presumably one of his better matchups, both in the upper bracket match and in that final match. His whole tournament was barely squeeking by. He went 4-3 day one, in on breakers, 4-3 day two, in on breakers for the single slot. I do think the decision to play Once Upon a Time makes the Gruul deck better despite what was starting to be conventional wisdom heading into the tournament.
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Oct 21, 2019 01:47
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Rumors are circulating around about a new format called Pioneer. RTR-on.
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Oct 21, 2019 02:57
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ShaneB posted:Rumors are circulating around about a new format called Pioneer. RTR-on. That would be loving random.
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Oct 21, 2019 02:59
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ShaneB posted:Rumors are circulating around about a new format called Pioneer. RTR-on. I've been thinking something like this would happen, but I was thinking Tarkir-on.
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Sickening posted:That would be loving random. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZn62fsXvOU
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Oct 21, 2019 03:01
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Sickening posted:That would be loving random. That’s when their print runs went way up right?
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Oct 21, 2019 03:02
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Considering that khans fetches would be in, that would mean a guarantee of the other fetches in standard in the future.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:06
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some people like fetches in their eternal formats, some people don't. let's split the difference and make a new format where only half of them are legal.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:08
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Sickening posted:Considering that khans fetches would be in, that would mean a guarantee of the other fetches in standard in the future. nah, they'd just do pioneer horizons in 4 years with $10 packs with the ZEN fetches at mythic.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:09
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Retromancer posted:some people like fetches in their eternal formats, some people don't. That was the case for the first three years of Modern.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:13
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They could just pre-ban the fetches.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:21
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whydirt posted:They could just pre-ban the fetches. And maybe 30 other cards.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:26
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Boy I would love another format to randomly jack up prices.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:28
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hell yeah i hope this is as successful as Frontier was
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Oct 21, 2019 03:29
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So what's going to spike? Torrential Gearhulk The Scarab God Gideon, Ally of Zendikar What else?
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Oct 21, 2019 03:30
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Is this supposed to be an actual Wizards-official format, or is it invented and pushed by a third-party singles retailer a la Frontier and Tiny Leaders?
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Oct 21, 2019 03:33
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Jabor posted:Is this supposed to be an actual Wizards-official format, or is it invented and pushed by a third-party singles retailer a la Frontier and Tiny Leaders? Wizards, supposedly. I guess after they broke modern they're shrugging and giving up and making a new format without mox opal. Supposedly.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:35
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Anyway, I assume Deathrite Shaman goes up if there's finally a format he's unbanned in.
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Star Man posted:So what's going to spike? Last hope probably would see a bump. I would think some rares that makeup old decks from RTR standard would see some spiking. Baby jace again. The commands become pretty premium again. Collected company. Jabor posted:Anyway, I assume Deathrite Shaman goes up if there's finally a format he's unbanned in. I can't see it being a card they let in the wild in a new format. To be honest I would think any card that is banned in modern from that era be auto included in the list.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:39
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i too have a lot of questions about this new format that only exists in some guys clickbait youtube video
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Oct 21, 2019 03:57
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little munchkin posted:i too have a lot of questions about this new format that only exists in some guys clickbait youtube video Its a new format in WER. That is a very WOTC way to leak a new format.
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Oct 21, 2019 03:58
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gruul is a very fun deck that can just outright lose to mana so i dont think it's good enough to counter anything
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Oct 21, 2019 04:05
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I don't understand why we need a new eternal format just to try to erase the power cards printed during the Dubya administration. The Legacy banlist is still longer than the Modern banlist, and that's even if you exclude the ante cards, dexterity cards, and conspiracies. The eccentricities of Modern have prevented cards that were peeled off of its banlist like Stoneforge Mystic, Bloodbraid Elf, and Jace, the Mind Sculptor in the last year from being the terrors that they all were in their days in Standard. Modern's banlist is mostly made up with cards that accelerate a combo or are lynch pins to their combo, while a few are just utterly degenerate like Umezawa's Jitte. Cards like Mox Opal and Mox Amber seem to fit into that group. If Wizards does announce Pioneer as a paper format and their argument is that cards from Return to Ravnica and later are easier to obtain, then that's a complete lie when they have the power to print cards whenever they want to. They'll just do the exact same thing again with Pioneer and make it hard to access by refusing to reprint power cards necessary for competitive play.
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little munchkin posted:i too have a lot of questions about this new format that only exists in some guys clickbait youtube video I heard info about it from 2 people in different circles who have more interesting connections than I do, before that video was made. It's definitely (probably) real. I don't care about being first to mention it here, because I heard about it from other people myself. I only want to save my magic associates here some cash if they wanna grab some cards a little early.
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