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Taear posted:A lot of Paradox employees post here (and come from here) and none of them have ever really given the impression that it's as horrible as that makes out. Different disciplines get different managers, I was a content designer and my manager was great. But yeah QAs had a lot of complaints
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Darkrenown posted:You can be fired for being publically "disloyal" so no one would in the hypothetical scenario that they agreed. Well that's....rubbish. I know companies do that (yes my company does this) but still. Grouchio posted:So Paradox: I think you're reaching deciding it'll be bare bones from what we've heard. But the new launcher is rubbish yes, it feels like it's breaking Ironman!
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Darkrenown posted:You can be fired for being publically "disloyal" so no one would in the hypothetical scenario that they agreed. One of the few ways that its actually valid to fire someone, according to swedish law. For the record. I’m a member of the Union.
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Taear posted:
I really don't get the hate for a supposed barebones CK3. CK2 was "barebones" at launch compared to now, and it still was one of the best (the best?) GSG at the time, on day one.
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canepazzo posted:I really don't get the hate for a supposed barebones CK3. CK2 was "barebones" at launch compared to now, and it still was one of the best (the best?) GSG at the time, on day one. For some reason, people repeat that and somehow remember release day CK2/EU4 as barebones as if those games only became good later. I think it also was a self-fulfilling prophecy with Imperator: Rome. People repeated something like "it will be good in a year or two" so everyone was very quick to dismiss release version as just a demo of a future game.
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Paradox games don’t actually have that track record, you’re thinking of Civilization. EU4 was pretty much a feature complete and upgraded EU3. Their games have traditionally always been straight upgrades. CK3 looks to be more character based and features a new map so it’s likely to play very differently from CK2. I do think it’s a ‘safe’ choice and I would have preferred something else, at least for another year. But we’re likely to see a lot more of this going forward as the push to bring quarterly reports up picks up steam in the next few years. It’s easy to tell that releasing so many things concurrently in November is an effort to get a good yearly sales report.
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pdxjohan posted:One of the few ways that its actually valid to fire someone, according to swedish law. Well of course. Sweden is a de jure part of the Kalmar Union.
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Honestly I'm happy about CK3 partially straight up in the hopes that it won't be as overwhelming as CK2 with all the DLC and systems added over the years. I think the fear that everything's going to be taken away and then resold to you like it's The Sims is probably overblown though, and it seems like this is more refining the game so it's in a good place to be built upon again than stripping it of all the meat. I guess we'll all find out together though.
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Sinteres posted:Honestly I'm happy about CK3 partially straight up in the hopes that it won't be as overwhelming as CK2 with all the DLC and systems added over the years. I think the fear that everything's going to be taken away and then resold to you like it's The Sims is probably overblown though, and it seems like this is more refining the game so it's in a good place to be built upon again than stripping it of all the meat. I guess we'll all find out together though. Hopefully it's like HoI3->4 where 4 had less content than 3 at launch, but was mechanically a much better game, and better designed on almost all fronts. Even base HoI4 was more fun to play than 3 with all the expansions.
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pdxjohan posted:One of the few ways that its actually valid to fire someone, according to swedish law. I am in the Victoria 3 union. We're looking for members, especially Paradox devs.....
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Enjoy posted:Different disciplines get different managers, I was a content designer and my manager was great. Edit: May have figured out who you are. How you doin LordMune fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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I expect CK3 will have most o the complete Ck2 mechanics and systems, but better integrated (since they will be added from there from the start not added later as DLCs) and some new ideas and improvments, with only less different religions/government types to play at launch Im pretty excited and I trust it will be better than Ck2 both at launch and at the long run Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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LordMune posted:Edit: May have figured out who you are. How you doin Still alive
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Guys Guys GUYS They finally announced it... Vicky 3 https://twitter.com/Type072Game/status/1183095454101364736 https://twitter.com/Type072Game/status/1184276445843148800 https://twitter.com/Type072Game/status/1185667289238196225 No word on the all-important population pyramids yet.
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I expect that government types will be pared down, but the way they said up front that there was going to be dynamic religions sounds like they'll try to incorporate much more than just christians at the beginning. Isn't the map going to extend all the way to Tibet? I don't think it's very likely christendom will get that far. And if they integrate extra religions from the start, that may be a good start to avoid the way that CK2 kept forgetting about supporting some religions in later updates.
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KOGAHAZAN!! posted:Guys I was surprised to get this game as a Promoted tweet the other day. Surprised because it must be incredibly targeted (I think I follow a few Paradox accounts) and also because the dev must have paid for ads.
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CK3 justifies itself to me by going in an even more roleplaying direction than CK2. It doesn't look like CK2 but shinier graphics, the new gameplay focus sounds good. Also that they've said you're not just limited to Christians at the game start. Eases fears of the barebones aspect!
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Thanks paradox "deus vult" megathread for reminding me why this is the only forum I read inside of one page e: also lol at these being back to back quote:I'll repeat my point from the other thread: I think it's a great decision. It's a very minor change, yet it has led to a great amount of people to come out of the bushes to loudly complain about it and promise to boycott the game. If they go through with that and even remove themselves from the community entirely over it - or even just identify themselves to be banned over it - this will lead to a massive decrease in toxicity. quote:Whitewashing history is never acceptable. This move means that I will never buy this game, and as you can see from the products on my account, I'm no slouch when it comes to investing in good games. I sincerely doubt I'm the only one. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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SlothfulCobra posted:I expect that government types will be pared down, but the way they said up front that there was going to be dynamic religions sounds like they'll try to incorporate much more than just christians at the beginning. Isn't the map going to extend all the way to Tibet? I don't think it's very likely christendom will get that far. Church of the east?
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Chomp8645 posted:I'm sure reddit will find some other phrase to turn into a meme once CK3 comes out. Yeah, that's what makes this change completely pointless. It's not that "Deus Vult" are some magic words that turn people into Nazis after they hear it. Crusades just appeal to the far right, because they like stories about white Christians beating up Muslims. They will just keep using it, or find themselves a new symbol.
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On the other hand, if your goal isn't to completely fix the community's racism problem overnight but instead just to annoy and inconvenience the racists, getting this much rage out of two words on one event screen being (rumored to be) changed seems like a slam dunk.
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Being upset that CK3 will not have an event button that says "Deus Vult" is like being upset that HOI4 does not have an event button that says "Heil Hitler" or "Sieg Heil". Leaving it out does not really compromise the historicity of anything. Sure, it's a cool term (Deus Vult, not the Hitler stuff), and it'd be nice to use it, but not at the risk of cryptofascists thinking it's really some dogwhistle (or Paradox having to defend it in media).
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There's absolutely no other games that let white supremacists and the like play out their ethnno-religious map-cleansing fantasies so Paradox can be as mean to them as they want and not worry about losing their custom. Drive them out of the community, it's a no-lose situation.
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As someone who’s worked in game dev for almost 20 years (dear god that is depressing) the only thing that leaps out from those Glassdoor posts are the sexual harassment accusations. Sadly QA often gets pooped on - it also gets a lot of entry level people who don’t fit in for whatever reason so sometimes Glassdoor complaints need to be taken with that in mind. The real crime is all that Swedish speaking in Sweden, clearly.
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Lum_ posted:As someone who’s worked in game dev for almost 20 years (dear god that is depressing) the only thing that leaps out from those Glassdoor posts are the sexual harassment accusations. Sadly QA often gets pooped on - it also gets a lot of entry level people who don’t fit in for whatever reason so sometimes Glassdoor complaints need to be taken with that in mind. Glassdoor also tends to attract people who're mad. And it's fine to be mad of course, but it's a place people vent when they're extremely angry. Athas posted:Being upset that CK3 will not have an event button that says "Deus Vult" is like being upset that HOI4 does not have an event button that says "Heil Hitler" or "Sieg Heil". Leaving it out does not really compromise the historicity of anything. Sure, it's a cool term (Deus Vult, not the Hitler stuff), and it'd be nice to use it, but not at the risk of cryptofascists thinking it's really some dogwhistle (or Paradox having to defend it in media). Yea but they're big racists and saying Deus Vult is a big bit of being a big racist right now.
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Lum_ posted:
So if you were told the place you'd be working at used English as its working language, had to apparently pay your own way over there, and then found out that actually they speak Swedish a lot in work conversations you'd be okay huh. That's cool but hopefully you can find the empathy somewhere in your bones to understand why others would see that as a problem
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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Church of the east? Not christendom as in the existance of christians, but as the politically dominant territory-controlling religious power. The former is only relevant if they put in some kind of system to represent minority groups ingame.
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Grouchio posted:(Now that I'm calmer:) They did mention in the RPS article that the religious customization option is going to be in CK3, for starters. And they mentioned that a lot of the roleplaying stuff is inspired by Way of Life, except heavily expanded. From the way they made it sound, we can expect a lot of the more popular DLC features to make it over, but we probably shouldn't expect the stuff hardly anyone seems to care about, like hospitals or whatever.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:like hospitals or whatever. Only because they were a complete waste of money unless you were already godtier rich and had nothing else to make. Would have loved to see the diseases/hospitals overhauled but ah well. Maybe for CK3
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Demiurge4 posted:
Just wanted to correct this, as there was a mistake in shipping we did not get all the bags that were planned (only 200 out of 2200) and had to resort to envelopes. No one is happy that it happened, but it was communicated at the convention. And it sucks that some people claim that the event team tried to cheapen the goodiebags when that was not the case. It also means we have like 2000 PDXCON2019 bags that we need to figure out what to do with back in Stockholm... Also different levels of ticket holder got different goodiebags, quill18 has the Emperor one (I think), and I think the lowest tier had like Bloodlines 2, Lithoids and some more stuff in it.
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Lum_ posted:As someone who’s worked in game dev for almost 20 years (dear god that is depressing) the only thing that leaps out from those Glassdoor posts are the sexual harassment accusations. Sadly QA often gets pooped on - it also gets a lot of entry level people who don’t fit in for whatever reason so sometimes Glassdoor complaints need to be taken with that in mind. Yeah this is equally true of the non-games company I work for. The entry level thing makes for some very interesting responses; some are probably true, but some don't track at all.
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:like hospitals or whatever. Fun fact about hospitals: If they aren't enough to completely bypass whatever disease is wracking your nation, they often just make things worse. Diseases have a set duration once they reach a province, and hospitals delay disease reaching the province but do not reduce that duration. So if your policy is to close the gates while there is disease in or adjacent to your capital, a hospital increases the duration you'll need to be locked up for.
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cKnoor posted:Just wanted to correct this, as there was a mistake in shipping we did not get all the bags that were planned (only 200 out of 2200) and had to resort to envelopes. No one is happy that it happened, but it was communicated at the convention. And it sucks that some people claim that the event team tried to cheapen the goodiebags when that was not the case. It also means we have like 2000 PDXCON2019 bags that we need to figure out what to do with back in Stockholm... Huh, I must have missed that. I was at the pre-show and announcement show and I don’t remember hearing it. But if it was announced then I apologise.
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They should just replace "Deus vult" with "God wills it" and see how angry people get. The game is in a vulgar language so it should use a vulgar translation after all!
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