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Hellsau posted:https://pastebin.com/NW1XRAMh i'm just recalling from the modern version of the deck that running out of cards was an issue, since all your cantrips only kept parity. Obviously having treasure cruise is a huge difference, but the modern version had scarscale ritual as well as ideas unbound. So it's worth a thought.
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Are there any (standard) cases where you are not allowed to assign multiple blockers against one attacking creature?
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Oct 21, 2019 19:18
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Are there any (standard) cases where you are not allowed to assign multiple blockers against one attacking creature? certain creatures/cards have "this creature may not be blocked by more than 1 creature." That's it, though.
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Oct 21, 2019 19:19
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Are there any (standard) cases where you are not allowed to assign multiple blockers against one attacking creature? Slim pickings: https://scryfall.com/search?as=grid...egal%3Astandard
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Oct 21, 2019 19:22
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Hellsau posted:https://pastebin.com/NW1XRAMh What about Phoenix for a sideboard plan?
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Oct 21, 2019 19:23
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Okay so as a corollary, why the gently caress is this written this way: "Each creature can only block a single attacker, but the defending player may choose to block an attacking creature with more than one creature."? (from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_rules#Declare_blockers) Have I lost all reading comprehension or does that not literally say each creature can only block a single attacker and then immediately contradicts that? Edit: Oh is this about games that aren't 1v1 or something?
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Okay so as a corollary, why the gently caress is this written this way: "Each creature can only block a single attacker, but the defending player may choose to block an attacking creature with more than one creature."? (from here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic:_The_Gathering_rules#Declare_blockers) Have I lost all reading comprehension or does that not literally say each creature can only block a single attacker and then immediately contradicts that? It's not the most elegant wording, but you have it mixed up a bit. Each defender can block at most one attacker, but multiple defenders can block a single attacker together as a group.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Have I lost all reading comprehension or does that not literally say each creature can only block a single attacker and then immediately contradicts that? One creature cannot block two attacking creatures. Creatures can block one creature at a time (there are creatures that are exceptions to this). An attacking creature can be blocked by multiple creatures. Each blocking creature can choose to block an attacking creature as their one creature to block, but that is independent of whether other creatures are also choosing to block that creature.
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Got it. Thanks!
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My hot take is that this format is gonna be dope, and I love that they started it off as a no-bans wild west also that the format this is going to actually kill is legacy, which is unsalvagable
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Oct 21, 2019 19:42
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Hellsau posted:GoatBots is nonstop busy on MTGO. Anyway here's my initial pass at Jeskai Ascendancy: Was thinking about this and doesn't Emry and 2 Mox Ambers let you cycle your entire deck with an ascendancy in play? Also makes a ton of blue mana, could win with lab maniac Jace.
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Oct 21, 2019 19:50
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all this talk about blocking multiple creatures made me look up hundred-handed one and holy poo poo that was a rare lmao
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ShaneB posted:Oko is over $65 btw I just bought pair, one Foil and one Borderless on eBay. Here's hoping the seller doesn't dip out on me. >_>
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sit on my Facebook posted:My hot take is that this format is gonna be dope, and I love that they started it off as a no-bans wild west Point 1: agree, Point 2: disagree. Too many people have invested in and love playing Legacy for it to die any time soon.
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redux posted:Was thinking about this and doesn't Emry and 2 Mox Ambers let you cycle your entire deck with an ascendancy in play? Also makes a ton of blue mana, could win with lab maniac Jace. Yeah. If you're going for Jeskai Ascendancy combos in Pioneer, you want Emry + Mox Amber.
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I’m excited for this format! So I can sell off my extra DRSs and Aetherworks Marvels to rubes after they spike.
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Oct 21, 2019 19:58
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odiv posted:https://twitter.com/CubeApril/status/1186316078248579072 This explains a lot. Every time I buy cards I also order a few cheap Dig Through Times, in case they mistakenly become unbanned for 10 minutes. I bought cards two days ago, and had to skip out on DTT this time because for some reason it had gone up 500%.
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The Human Crouton posted:This explains a lot. Every time I buy cards I also order a few cheap Dig Through Times, in case they mistakenly become unbanned for 10 minutes. I bought cards two days ago, and had to skip out on DTT this time because for some reason it had gone up 500%. If that isn't your "sell all my Dig Through Times" trigger, I don't know what is.
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Huxley posted:If that isn't your "sell all my Dig Through Times" trigger, I don't know what is. It is.
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Legacy has a lot better reason to exist then modern or vintage. There is always going to be a demand for a format where every set is legal that doesn't cost $40 Grand. The important thing to remember is right now magic is growing. If legacy, vintage, and modern stay the exact sizes they are now they'll gradually become less and less important, but might never go away.
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Would Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre's cast trigger be considered a spell that targets a permanent you control, for purposes of Leyline of Combustion? Edit: Ultimate Masters Dig Through Time is still ~$2 according to MTGFamiliar, if anyone wants any still. Full disclosure, I did not look into it any further. Tubgoat fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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sit on my Facebook posted:My hot take is that this format is gonna be dope, and I love that they started it off as a no-bans wild west naw no chance it kills legacy. legacy players arent going to be trading in their duals for tronlands or shocks. it's gonna keep trucking along with it's small, dedicated playerbase. depending on how hard it's pushed and if support for modern starts to get replaced i can see it killing modern.
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neaden posted:Legacy has a lot better reason to exist then modern or vintage. There is always going to be a demand for a format where every set is legal that doesn't cost $40 Grand. I cant say what will happen but it feels like this will eat into Modern's marketshare more than Legacy's. WOTC gonna try a dumb "merge legacy and modern" move; banning the reserve list, just you watch
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Tubgoat posted:Would Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre's cast trigger be considered a spell that targets a permanent you control, for purposes of Leyline of Combustion? It's an ability. the creature spell isn't targeting it, the ability that triggers when the creature spell is cast is. But this also triggers leyline of combustion.
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Cactrot posted:It's an ability. the creature spell isn't targeting it, the ability that triggers when the creature spell is cast is. But this also triggers leyline of combustion.  Thank you for your patience and understanding.
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this won’t kill modern because the number of people who like fetching typed duals but can’t afford ABUR duals is substantial. It’s fun to do. Also this format is going to completely suck rear end once the fun Wild West period is over and all the delve cards and DRS are banned
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Hey speaking of cards spiking, sure hope they don't immediately ban Dig Through Time. I had nearly a dozen copies from opening them back in the day, so those can spike as high as they want I say.
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Super excited to bust out my old favorite deck of UW Sphinx Control with no wincon except a single Elixir of Immortality.
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Walked posted:I cant say what will happen but it feels like this will eat into Modern's marketshare more than Legacy's. I would play it.
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qbert posted:Super excited to bust out my old favorite deck of UW Sphinx Control with no wincon except a single Elixir of Immortality. smdh if you don't play dawn of the second sun e: aw poo poo, bant wilderness rec + sphinx rev + nexus is gonna be loving horrible A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Oct 21, 2019 |
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Oct 21, 2019 20:24
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Bant CoCo is hilarious in Frontier and it's going to eat a lot of decks alive
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It's entirely possible that dig through time is fair without fetch lands
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neaden posted:I would play it. Me too but only if legacy is deader than dead. I still have venues to play it [for now ]
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So the mystery boosters are just going to be random boosters from a Pioneer legal set that's not in standard, right?
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I think it's more likely Esper Control becomes the dominant varient in Pioneer over UW, simply on the power of T1 Thoughtseize alone.
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A big flaming stink posted:smdh if you don't play dawn of the second sun Threeferi to give Approach flash, to cast the first copy on end step then the second copy on your turn with no chance for response because of his static ability Mmmmm
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neaden posted:So the mystery boosters are just going to be random boosters from a Pioneer legal set that's not in standard, right? dragon maze, born of the gods surprise bonanza
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qbert posted:Super excited to bust out my old favorite deck of UW Sphinx Control with no wincon except a single Elixir of Immortality. I unironically am hella pumped to try and jam second sun control with actual rev and 3feri
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No formats will die any more than vintage and legacy already are dead, people invested in a format (emotionally and financially) aren't just going to stop playing, even if competitive support dies (competitive support for modern will die, if this takes off [it will take off because it has competitive support]), unless only grinders play modern and everyone actually hates it, as I've seen alleged from time to time.
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qbert posted:I think it's more likely Esper Control becomes the dominant varient in Pioneer over UW, simply on the power of T1 Thoughtseize alone. And late game T3feri into Drawstep Thoughtseize. I'm mentally on Esper control as well, but gotta see how the format shakes out first
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