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Scottish independence is still good tho
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Oct 22, 2019 02:05
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Coohoolin posted:Scottish independence is still good tho Coming back to say this post is wrong and bad, also a terrible snipe wuv you coohoowie Also, for morning crew, you didn’t miss anything, except a new episode of the podcast is out, listen to that rather than catch up with the last few pages.
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Oct 22, 2019 02:06
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Coohoolin posted:Scottish independence is still good tho https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5g_gs6nnyo
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Oct 22, 2019 02:06
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Particularly relevant, I think, is the US looking to get Sanders elected. If we ended up with a corbyn/sanders double act I think that could really help people out. We don't exist entirely isolated from each other and winning victories in one place can help inspire others elsewhere, and we are, regardless, on the cusp of a demographic shift and conditional urgency that necessitates socialism the world over.
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Oct 22, 2019 02:06
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Have you considered agitating for socialism? I admit you are right, I've been drinking and arguing all day and I shouldn't have been so bigoted o just want out of this collective existential nightmare
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Oct 22, 2019 02:07
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Ash Crimson posted:Give me a solution to the problems we're facing that doesn't rely on me waiting for Britain to collectively get its head out of its arse because right now I feel like a rat on a sinking ship and the only potential way out is scottish independence
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Oct 22, 2019 02:10
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Those English bastards, voting the opposite way to you in an independence referendum. No scotsman would ever OH WAIT A SECOND Lmao that's a fair cop
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Oct 22, 2019 02:24
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Coohoolin posted:Remember when one guy got all touchy about people itt making GBS threads on London, because hey lots of people in London are sound and it's not their fault and why so much hate and nastiness? And just couldn't understand the difference between institutional/hyperbolic generalizations and like, literal 100% serious opinions that every last person within the london area is personally and directly culpable for the policies produced by the edifices of power for which "London" is an easily identifiable shorthand and target for venting? Thanks for illustrating why I was right about the London stuff.
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Oct 22, 2019 02:45
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People's Party of Canada (Canadian far right party) leader just lost his seat. Lol.
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Oct 22, 2019 03:52
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WhatEvil posted:People's Party of Canada (Canadian far right party) leader just lost his seat. As shite and melty as Trudeau is, I'm glad the predictions of Conservative victory are proving false. If he's minority hopefully the NDP can be kingmakers and try to keep him honest. (Though in all fairness to blackface boy, what I've seen suggests he did make a sincere effort on most of his campaign promises, it's just... they could be more ambitious promises.) And Netenyahu conceded he can't form a government, so the still shite, but distinctly less shite than Likud, Blue and White are able to take a swing at doing so. Not the worst day, politically speaking.
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Oct 22, 2019 04:53
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WhatEvil posted:People's Party of Canada (Canadian far right party) leader just lost his seat. https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1186474995842715648 Apparently he lost it in part due to something called the Rhinoceros party which ran someone with the same name "Maxime Bernier," that siphoned off ~2% of the vote. Candada's fun.
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Oct 22, 2019 04:58
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Ms Adequate posted:As shite and melty as Trudeau is, I'm glad the predictions of Conservative victory are proving false. If he's minority hopefully the NDP can be kingmakers and try to keep him honest. (Though in all fairness to blackface boy, what I've seen suggests he did make a sincere effort on most of his campaign promises, it's just... they could be more ambitious promises.) Yeah it looks like a liberal NDP thing is the most likely. I'm sad that the liberals are the only real contender to Tories here though, I mean imagine if it was basically Tory Vs lib dem here?? Wouldn't motivate many people looking for change. He did good on some of his promises but hosed over a lot of them like the pipeline and electoral reform, not minor things. Also I am very upset at the last few pages as it's making me question whether my Welsh hatred of the England rugby team is actually cool and good, and I don't like it one bit.
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Oct 22, 2019 04:59
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Robot Mil posted:Yeah it looks like a liberal NDP thing is the most likely. I'm sad that the liberals are the only real contender to Tories here though, I mean imagine if it was basically Tory Vs lib dem here?? Wouldn't motivate many people looking for change. Yeah I laid this out for the thread a week or two ago. The Overton window here is reeeeeeal loving narrow at the moment. Basically, all the major parties here are to the right of UK Labour and a bit to the left of (current) UK conservatives on the left/right It is... not inspiring. But still, at least Maxime Bernier can gently caress off.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:05
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WhatEvil posted:The NDP who are nominally the more left-wing party shifted right at the last election to try to take votes from the liberals, and it didn't work. NDP need a Corbs to pull things left. It'll be depressing as hell when I am able to vote here and just have all these fucknugget options.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:08
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I'm taking solace that the Liberals got in over the Conservatives. I want to move back to Canada in about two years and want that process to be as easy as possible. Would have far preferred the NDP to get in though.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:10
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Ershalim posted:https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1186474995842715648 They're our joke party. Their historic platform includes building a giant ramp so you can coast from coast to coast and declaring war on Belgium because Tin Tin blew up a rhino in one of the older comics.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:11
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:They're our joke party. Their historic platform includes building a giant ramp so you can coast from coast to coast and declaring war on Belgium because Tin Tin blew up a rhino in one of the older comics. American candidates have won on less realistic promises.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:25
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Indyref 2 - the Tory position on this is known obvs but what about Labour and the LibDems?
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Oct 22, 2019 05:38
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Votez Rhino! They are the Canadian version of Monster Raving Loony Party. In Quebec they used to run second in some ridings behind the Liberals before the law on political parties changed and they got deregistered... Nice they're back.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:44
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Ash Crimson posted:Individuals who tend to vote tory, what do you not accept the fact that the Conservative party enjoys comparatively bigger support and more representation in England? What do you want me to do, deny this reality? I don’t think the reality lives up to what you want it to be. they’re the second largest party, the official opposition in the parliament there. that’s not a “non factor” by any stretch
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Oct 22, 2019 05:54
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Just going to draw a point of comparison for Ash Crimson, what you're doing is like blaming the descendants of slaves south of the Mason-Dixon line for neo-confederates.
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Oct 22, 2019 06:18
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High feelings in the UKMT last couple of pages. I'm just saying this as a suggestion, but maybe our collective anxiety is making us all a bit shirty atm and we're turning it inwards and that may not be helpful? I don't mean to get all liberal decorum but this doesn't seem to be going anywhere
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Oct 22, 2019 06:46
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e; ^  Mr Luxury Yacht posted:They're our joke party. Their historic platform includes building a giant ramp so you can coast from coast to coast and declaring war on Belgium because Tin Tin blew up a rhino in one of the older comics. That actually owns hard, vote Rhino!
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Oct 22, 2019 06:46
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Jedit posted:The Welsh didn't. Retired English people living in Wales swung the vote. Brexit is purely English nationalism. Mate, 38% of Scots voted Leave. 52% of Welsh people and I don't think Wales is 1/2 English retirees. It might have been strongest in England but 'Leave is entirely England's fault' is complete bullshit. You might not like that this is true but both Scotland and Wales have plenty of gammons too.
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Oct 22, 2019 06:50
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Praseodymi posted:Just going to draw a point of comparison for Ash Crimson, what you're doing is like blaming the descendants of slaves south of the Mason-Dixon line for neo-confederates.
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Oct 22, 2019 06:55
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Barry Foster posted:High feelings in the UKMT last couple of pages. Agreed. Let’s aim for empathy if not kindness, and turn our fire elsewhere. Also, ratjaculation did make a good point earlier about all the talk about being careful around terms like idiot, but then everyone going on about someone being loving nuts and brain-spiders etc (which autocorrected time ERG, which is so on point). How do we reconcile those two?
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Oct 22, 2019 06:57
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Pesmerga posted:Agreed. Let’s aim for empathy if not kindness, and turn our fire elsewhere. On the one hand that's a fair point. However, also Ratjaculation posted:got my big old ladel out for stirring that ukmt pot again guys
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Oct 22, 2019 07:03
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Claiming the English are akin to the descendents of *slaves* certainly makes Ash look a lot more credible.
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Oct 22, 2019 07:07
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Pesmerga posted:How do we reconcile those two? A: don’t use any technical term that would be used by a doctor or teacher within living memory B: don’t be wrong
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Oct 22, 2019 07:10
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Rust Martialis posted:Claiming the English are akin to the descendents of *slaves* certainly makes Ash look a lot more credible. Don't be dense, I'm saying that working class English people are being held hostage by Tories in the same way that the southern states are being held hostage by Republicans. Or are black southerners racist because their state returned a racist?
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Oct 22, 2019 07:11
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Praseodymi posted:Don't be dense, I'm saying that working class English people are being held hostage by Tories in the same way that the southern states are being held hostage by Republicans. Or are black southerners racist because their state returned a racist?
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Oct 22, 2019 07:15
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radmonger posted:A: don’t use any technical term that would be used by a doctor or teacher within living memory Is this me being wrong, or don’t be wrong about whether that term has been used in living memory?
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Oct 22, 2019 07:17
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Also, in other news, I was talking to a friend who’s an academic specialising in employment rights, and she had a look at the section that was put in to the WA bill that intended to get labour support, and she said it looks like a massive trap to her. It basically only seems to require the government announce if a measure will result in lower protections for workers, not that they have to prevent it from lowering standards. Any Labour MP who supports theBill on that basis is incompetent at best, outright dishonest more likely (Flint, Kinnock etc).
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Oct 22, 2019 07:27
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the best thing about transitioning to a single party state if we manage it is that our grandkids will find threads like this and shiver at the idea that the lib dems and the tories were ever a thing
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Oct 22, 2019 07:29
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Barry Foster posted:High feelings in the UKMT last couple of pages. Yer. Just about to say that. As a Nordie, lots of us are at 8/10 anger at England right now rather than a comfy background 6. It’s not a personal attack on all English people but you have to understand that most people in the devolved regions have at best ambivalent feelings about the English as a structural force, and that we have reasons for that. No-one’s saying that individual English UKMTers have culpability for, eg, Bloody Sunday, but England does and as a nation it refuses to face that.
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Oct 22, 2019 07:32
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Stop pretending the English exist, it only encourages them.
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Oct 22, 2019 07:38
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Apologies for earlier, being in a pretty bad place + alcohol is not a good combination edit: lol this av
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Oct 22, 2019 07:38
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Filboid Studge posted:Yer. Just about to say that. if any country had done bloody sunday alone it'd be a mortal stain forever but the fact it is just one of many atrocities our killing machine of an empire carried out with the enthusiastic backing of its citizens has me scratching my head at the latant english nationalism i'm seeing itt. like brexit is first and foremost a movement born of embittered spiteful forces in the imperial core who believe their ill gotten gains from the parasitic exploitation of the world are threatened by migrants and other minority groups. all the rest is window dressing really. there's no need to defend the english of all people jfc. gh0stpinballa fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Oct 22, 2019 07:40
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Yeah it's a little like someone posting "ACAB" and someone responding with "b-but my brother in law is a copper and he's nice  ".But on the other hand, it must be pretty tiresome to have your nationality be so consistently denigrated because the apes in charge won't stop flinging their poo poo everywhere. Especially since when the English are At It Again the vast majority of the victims are other English people
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Oct 22, 2019 07:42
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Failed Imagineer posted:But on the other hand, it must be pretty tiresome to have your nationality be so consistently denigrated because the apes in charge won't stop flinging their poo poo everywhere. Especially since when the English are At It Again the vast majority of the victims are other English people one million dead iraqis and as many as 3 million dead yemenis, libyans and syrians would like to have a word about that claim, but they can't, because the english helped kill them
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