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Gyro Zeppeli posted:I wish Popeye's came over here, just to see if it's as good as people make out. I mean, it's good and if welcome it, but not like it was insane how good it was. Had it twice in NY earlier this year.
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Plank Sanction posted:Telling a bunch of people who already feel downtrodden, threatened and powerless by circumstances beyond their control are, in fact, actually worthless morons responsible for the state of the world because they were born the other side of an arbitrary line is loving indefensible. There should be absolutely no solidarity extended to the parasitical 1st world labour aristocracy. They feel powerless, and yet are greatly empowered by their constant bleeding of the periphery dry. Where is your solidarity with the periphery?
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Guavanaut posted:It got gassed because it turned into 95% arguing about Your Communism Is Inauthentic And There's No Ethnic Cleansing Under Glorious Maoism Xi Jinpingism and 5% Lefttube. Was this because of Contrapoints or Moviebob?
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chestnut santabag posted:I've got a couple of questions for the various Scots: I'm for independence, regardless of whether the next UK election returns the tories or labour. The democratic deficit is too pronounced and I can't stomach living like this anymore, dependent on the whims of a small group of people with inordinate power in a fptp system. Also the UK needs to be broken up and decentralisation needs to get a kick up the butt for the future of socialism.
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Aramoro posted:I voted No in the last Indy Ref but in a new one? I'm not so sure there are now a lot more compelling arguments to leave and become a small European nation. Nationalist arguments for independence are bad, but Scottish independence is no longer purely a nationalist issue. In 2014 Scotland was voting to leave both the UK and the EU; they had the strong hope of re-entering the latter but it wasn't guaranteed. In a notional 2020 referendum they will be voting on whether they prefer to be in the UK or the EU. In that circumstance you cannot sanely vote for anything other than joining the EU. It's bigger, it's stronger, and even if it turns out to be bad for Scotland it's going to be easier to get out.
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ThomasPaine posted:As long as you're not a prick you'll be fine Cool, I am not a prick
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Deketh posted:Cool, I am not a prick Thats what a prick would say  But generally "Dont be a prick" is a pretty good ethos wherever you go
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Coohoolin posted:Was this because of Contrapoints or Moviebob?
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to be fair to the ScotNats, just under a quarter of the English people voted for the Tories in 2017, which is far too many. better to cleanse this wretched, vague bloodline(?) from the face of the world.
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seizure later posted:to be fair to the ScotNats, just under a quarter of the English people voted for the Tories in 2017, which is far too many. better to cleanse this wretched, vague bloodline(?) from the face of the world. Like throwing out a basket of foraged mushrooms
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keep punching joe posted:The English are a predictably reactionary bunch of fash so any good lab government will always be followed by at least 15 years of tories. meh People are reactionary, we should not make the mistake of thinking the Scots are any better. Remember the Tartan army football movement was started just to make the English look bad.
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seizure later posted:to be fair to the ScotNats, just under a quarter of the English people voted for the Tories in 2017, which is far too many. better to cleanse this wretched, vague bloodline(?) from the face of the world. 45% of the English voted for the tories in 2017. In comparison, over a quarter of Scots voted for tories in that same GE.
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Aramoro posted:meh People are reactionary, we should not make the mistake of thinking the Scots are any better. Remember the Tartan army football movement was started just to make the English look bad. I think the big problem is though is that you are never going to get a Westminster gov thats going to act in the best interest of Scotland (or at least highly unlikely). Interesting point, how long do you think the SNP will last if Scotland does get Independence, my guess would be not very long, maybe 1-2 elections.
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This all sounds (and is) ridiculous but don't let it put you off Disco. And the tardigrade stuff is only in one episode. I personally can't remember anyone referring to it as a 'giant space tardigrade' and I've seen the episode twice, but it's possible someone said it jokingly. They call it Ripper. And is it really that much more ridiculous than a lot of the TNG era stuff, or the Bajoran prophets, or, hell, warp drive? Disco's awesome and really pisses off the right people. Especially Stamets and Tilly  .Stamets, by the way, is the engineer that specialises in the spore drive. His name is a tribute to this guy, shroom fans!
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I'm looking forward to a Scottish Lexit being just as derided a few years after a successful independence vote as a British one is now. I just can't see it working economically without going full bore petrostate, and jesus the border situation and trying to split everything 'fairly'. Pretend I said something insulting about the Barnett formula too. On another topic, middle class white women discover existential dread: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-49836830 Crying Mum posted:I was asking one of the (nursery) staff members if I could speak to some of the other mums about coming to an Extinction Rebellion strike," says Heather, from Beeston in Nottinghamshire. "She said they wouldn't be able to get involved in anything political and I got really, really upset. She said, 'I think you need to go and see someone'. Oh no, eco-anxiety. This is completely unprecedented and distinct from anxieties such as not being able to feed ourselves or the inevitability of the world ending in a conflagration of nuclear hell fire. What we need is some kind of organisation to join that tells us our lives have meaning and that by howling into the void we will be judged worthy and saved. Thus begins the cult of EXTINCTION REBELLION.
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chestnut santabag posted:That was the local elections, in the general election, just under half of the English voted for the tories in 2017. In comparison, over a quarter of Scots voted for tories in that same GE. I don't think 13.6 million people is half of the English population unless we have had an unprecedented boom in residents since 2017
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Deketh posted:Do we have anyone from Inverness here? I'm thinking of making a significant change in my life and following my dreams of living in the Highlands, curious if any goons can recommend living there. Work would be a concern obviously. Are the English generally welcome up there? I ask that cos my mum lived in North Wales for a bit and wasn't terribly welcome. Yes and I have lived in the highlands for most of my life, and I have never, ever heard of someone from england/wales/wherever being made to feel unwelcome. Inverness especially relies heavily on tourism and locals love to meet people from all over the world, it is an incredibly open and multicultural place. A lot of people who live and work here are english, and literally nobody cares or bats and eyelid, it's achingly normal.
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seizure later posted:I don't think 13.6 million people is half of the English population unless we have had an unprecedented boom in residents since 2017 Wrong way, pop of the England is 54 million, so 13 would be over a quarter.
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Shakespearean Beef posted:There should be absolutely no solidarity extended to the parasitical 1st world labour aristocracy. They feel powerless, and yet are greatly empowered by their constant bleeding of the periphery dry. Where is your solidarity with the periphery?
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seizure later posted:I don't think 13.6 million people is half of the English population unless we have had an unprecedented boom in residents since 2017 Yeah I updated my post as I was looking at the wrong stat, but specifically I was referring to the percent of those who voted rather than the total population.
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CyberPingu posted:I think the big problem is though is that you are never going to get a Westminster gov thats going to act in the best interest of Scotland (or at least highly unlikely). That's a good argument for a kind of federalism where most powers are devolved and the upper house is a Council of Provinces. Also for splitting up England. RockyB posted:On another topic, middle class white women discover existential dread:
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Shakespearean Beef posted:There should be absolutely no solidarity extended to the parasitical 1st world labour aristocracy. They feel powerless, and yet are greatly empowered by their constant bleeding of the periphery dry. Where is your solidarity with the periphery?
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chestnut santabag posted:Yeah I updated my post as I was looking at the wrong stat, but specifically I was referring to the percent of those who voted rather than the total population. but I thought we were dooming all of England, and thus the English, to a fiery death, not just voters? was the argument not that the English bear responsibility for government, regardless of political leanings, history or voting record? CyberPingu posted:Wrong way, pop of the England is 54 million, so 13 would be over a quarter. Google is telling me population was 55.62 million at the time, but if it's 54 and thus just over a quarter, then definitely drop the bombs.
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Guavanaut posted:I don't think you'd get one that's going to act in the best interests of the North or the Midlands or Wales either. Which is why some folk from the North have asked Scotland to take them with them if they do go indy
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seizure later posted:but I thought we were dooming all of England, and thus the English, to a fiery death, not just voters? was the argument not that the English bear responsibility for government, regardless of political leanings, history or voting record? I cant read google correctly, its 55.62 Im also bad at maths apparently. gently caress yeah for only having 30 mins of sleep between 3 and 6.30 this morning, thank you 11 month old who refuses to sleep
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Whimsicalfuckery posted:Yes and I have lived in the highlands for most of my life, and I have never, ever heard of someone from england/wales/wherever being made to feel unwelcome. Inverness especially relies heavily on tourism and locals love to meet people from all over the world, it is an incredibly open and multicultural place. A lot of people who live and work here are english, and literally nobody cares or bats and eyelid, it's achingly normal. Great to hear, thank you!
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tritsch posted:I had a walk around Borough market yesterday afternoon (clearing the alcohol related anxiety from the weekend) and they have a decent selection of wild mushrooms but they are on the upper scale of prices I'm willing to pay, otoh I know I could learn to find them but I don't trust myself not to do a death...maybe there is a better/cheaper place to buy than in Borough market? (Might try my local east end one at the weekend) Unsure of the price but there's a stall at the north end of Broadway market (London fields, not tooting) that sells a bunch of different mushrooms. They also do a risotto if you cbf. But screw all that, if you go to Broadway market skip everything and get a katsu chicken wrap for £5, it is amazing.
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CyberPingu posted:I cant read google correctly, its 55.62 tbf if you add in the LibDem votes as Tory votes (justifiably) then it probably is over a quarter
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Plank Sanction posted:Disco's awesome and really pisses off the right people. Especially Stamets and Tilly Discovery is absolutely laughably terrible. Both seasons felt like they were being written as they went along, the Klingon war ends immediately out of nowhere, trying to make the evil universe concept an actual serious thing rather than occasional one-off hokey material was ridiculous, and the second season in particular just rushed headlong with the seven red lights thing with its fingers in its ears screaming "IT'LL ALL COME TOGETHER AT THE END!" and faceplants straight into the loving ground. Why did they have to go through the portal? Because we decided already! Don't point out all the reasons they don't have to, just have everyone go along with it! I can't wait for season three, it's the prettiest show on TV and they can't pen a coherent story to save their own life, it's a great laugh. Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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gh0stpinballa posted:why are so many mushrooms so poisonous, thats hosed up man the lethally poisonous ones are actually very rare, no more than a dozen that grow local to me, among hundreds of species. most mushroom species are somewhere between "actually a complex of species of which at least one is mildly poisonous" and "no reports of poisoning are known, presumed harmless" A better answer to your question though, might be that mushrooms don't really fit into our metabolism the way that other food sources do, and there's no really good reason to expect them to. Many mushrooms have complicated life cycles that make cultivation extremely tricky and selective breeding impractical, and their breeding mechanics don't make them all that interested in being digested by mammals the way that fruits often do. So, the foodness of shroom is incidental even when it appears, and is probably debatable even then. Even the ones commonly used as food tend to have some characteristics that aren't wanted in food--long carbohydrate chains that mess with sensitive human stomachs say, or carcinogenic substances that aren't heat resistent--yes, even in the old boring Agaricus bisporus which probably shouldn't be eaten raw and in quantity. I read some scientist opining a while back that while mushrooms make great spices and are very likely harmless in that sense, they shouldn't be thought of as food at all. Of course, as well, very few mushrooms are big business to the extent that they could attract funding of long-term studies of potential for harm. And to what end? They're not good candidates to be substantial parts of our diet even then, they're often a a bit like eating water with a teaspoon of cheap bodybuilder powder and random grease. You can find examples that contain remarkable amounts of vitamins which is cool, but still incidental to them being eaten. I will say that you could very probably find a decent correlation foraging for mushrooms and diverse health benefits, but that's mostly because of exercise, being in nature, and that sweet, wonderful, neanderthal kick you get by filling your larder with things for winter
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The spaceship is really ugly Edit lol get out the way TB (ah I'm just kidding)
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Guavanaut posted:a kind of federalism where most powers are devolved and the upper house is a Council of Provinces. Also for splitting up England. Sincerely, I think federalisation of smaller units of population is definitely the way to go. Our monkey brain mindset just isn't equipped for caring about populations in blocks of 50 million at a time, and modern telecommunication systems allowing ever more centralised and rapid control really don't help. Independence for Cornwall. London becomes a city state. The northern powerhouse actually builds a proper loving railway across the Pennines. RockyB fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Thank you for mushroom posts - they're a nice change of pace!
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I'm all for independence of every nation, and region, in Britain, as well as independence for all British Overseas Territories. I also want a world without borders so not sure how that aligns, but whatever. All the hot air about the Northern Powerhouse (and the 'Midlands engine'?) a few years ago was just that, but for a moment I thought it might be the path to a decentralised England. Instead Manchester is just used as an extension of London with not enough control over itself besides managing meagre budgets and selling itself for empty skyscrapers. justcola fucked around with this message at 12:46 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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What's a 'nation'?
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:
Excellent news, I'm way ahead of the curve there. In other 'not really food' news, Wendy's is better than McDonald's but nothing remotely special. And their chili is terrible.
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Mushroom chat is good. I went foraging with my in-laws a few weeks back and they showed me which ones are good to eat with friends and which ones to make soup for your enemies with and then we brought a big bucketful back and they dried them for me to take home. I haven't eaten them yet so it remains somewhat uncertain if I'm considered friend or enemy, but I have a good feeling about it.
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Deketh posted:Do we have anyone from Inverness here? I'm thinking of making a significant change in my life and following my dreams of living in the Highlands, curious if any goons can recommend living there. Work would be a concern obviously. Are the English generally welcome up there? I ask that cos my mum lived in North Wales for a bit and wasn't terribly welcome. I've only been visiting but I thought inverness was the least highlandsy bit of the highlands, its pretty much just like any small city. I thought a good compromise would be Fort William which is a small town thats extremely highlandsy and beautiful but still has shops and modern comforts. If i were going to live anywhere up there, I'd pick there, but like I say I've only visited, I think theres some highlands goons who could tell you better and probably tell me I'm wrong. I've been living in Scotland for about 7 years now and I've literally never had any grief for being english, including when I'm slagging off their rugby team in pubs or supporting labour in front of hardcore SNP supporters. The most I've ever got was working nightshift when some people would go "You're english, eh? Don't worry I won't hold it against you," and I'd say something about being a fleeing refugee and we'd laugh and that'd be it.
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chestnut santabag posted:I've got a couple of questions for the various Scots: I would rather be part of a socialist lead UK because nationalism is generally bad and also because the collapse of ScotLab suggests the left is no longer as strong as I once believed. Deketh posted:Do we have anyone from Inverness here? I'm thinking of making a significant change in my life and following my dreams of living in the Highlands, curious if any goons can recommend living there. Work would be a concern obviously. Are the English generally welcome up there? I ask that cos my mum lived in North Wales for a bit and wasn't terribly welcome. Hi, teuchter here (which means Highlander, specifically from Inverness). So I'd say it depends where you live. The towns and Inverness you'll be fine but if you end up living in a village you might get a bit of grief at first because parochialism. I used to work with a Brummie who lived in Avoch on the Black Isle and he ended up as an SNP councillor for the area. But on the whole you'll be fine, there's a tiny bit of resentment towards "white settlers" but generally that's wealthy people buying second homes rather than people living up here full-time. As far as jobs, depends what you're looking for. There's skilled opportunities if you've got the qualifications, if you're a computer toucher there's Capgemini, and some other spots. Anymore questions I'll try to answer them but I have to ask: how come it's your dream to live in the arse end of no where?
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