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Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Do you full-time WFH people get your company to furnish your home office (desk, chair, monitors) or do they just send you out a laptop/dock and you do the rest?

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Sheep
Jul 24, 2003
When I was full-time WFH I was just happy to have the option. Only thing the company furnished was a laptop and IP phone. I certainly wouldn't push my luck asking for random stuff like a desk and what not even ignoring the complications of how the company would (a) track all that poo poo and (b) get it returned when someone leaves.

I think you'd have a hard time arguing for anything not mandated by disability-related legislature at most organizations.

devmd01
Mar 7, 2006

Elektronik
Supersonik
I WFH pretty rarely, but I have managed to squirrel away a dock and nice plantronics headset, so I have effectively the same 3-monitor/teams phone setup as at work. It wasn’t specifically issued for the purpose, though.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



At my company, if you WFH more than fifty percent of the time or aren't assigned to a specific office in our internal employee directory, you get the same setup (dock, two monitors) that people at the actual offices get. If it's just occasional WFH for things like inclement weather, needing someone at home for whatever reason, etc. then providing that stuff is on you.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


When I was doing wfh 2 days a week my company gave me 2 monitors, keyboard, mouse and dock.

My wfh schedule was reduced a while ago, but I still have all the equipment

CollegeCop
Jul 11, 2005

You're right. I'm not a real cop. Those are imaginary handcuffs. And in a minute, we'll be going to the make-believe jail.

Thanks Ants posted:

Do you full-time WFH people get your company to furnish your home office (desk, chair, monitors) or do they just send you out a laptop/dock and you do the rest?

I have a laptop, dock, keyboard, mouse, and headset.

If I really feel the need, I can request normal office supplies (paper, pens, paperclips, etc), but I have to drive into the office to pick them up.

If I asked the right people, I could probably get issued a old 15 or 17 inch monitor, but I have a two spares at home - a 19 and a 22.

I have to provide my own office furniture and an internet connection that meets the minimum requirements (which are laughable).

I have been WFH 2-3 days a week for a couple months now - anything to save me the 45 mile one-way commute. I am especially looking forward to not having to worry about driving in bad weather.

duffmensch
Feb 20, 2004

Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem!
When I was WFH full time for a bank, we were given a $1,500 budget to setup our home office. The laptop, dock, router, and monitors were included but everything else came from that amount (desk, chair, shredder, etc.). It was a one time deal, so you wanted to use as much as you could, and when you left the company you only had to send back the laptop, docking station, and router.

They’d said that it would cost more to ship back and store items, so they “recommended” that people donate the items to charity when they leave the company.

Ham Equity
Apr 16, 2013

The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.
Grimey Drawer

Thanks Ants posted:

Do you full-time WFH people get your company to furnish your home office (desk, chair, monitors) or do they just send you out a laptop/dock and you do the rest?

We haven't standardized yet, but we always provide the laptop, wired keyboard, mouse, and headset. We usually provide one monitor, and managers (and sometimes non-managers) will get an extra monitor and a docking station if they ask for it.

Edit:. Most of our people are not full-time WFH, only 1-3 days a week.

Ham Equity fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Oct 20, 2019

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

We don't get provided poo poo, but they did make us take mandatory training and sign a form certifying our desk at home is ergonomic and safe. Can't be getting sued for injuries at home you see. :angel:

CitizenKain
May 27, 2001

That was Gary Cooper, asshole.

Nap Ghost
A year or so ago, it seemed like WFH was going to be reality, then there was a sudden push from someone up at the top to stop it. No real answer either, just "we want people to have more face time with coworkers." But at the same time, they don't do a good job of providing space for everyone. If any of the corporate people work out of another division's building, they are treated like poo poo and get moved around constantly, or moved out of offices.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

CitizenKain posted:

A year or so ago, it seemed like WFH was going to be reality, then there was a sudden push from someone up at the top to stop it. No real answer either, just "we want people to have more face time with coworkers." But at the same time, they don't do a good job of providing space for everyone. If any of the corporate people work out of another division's building, they are treated like poo poo and get moved around constantly, or moved out of offices.

Working from home makes micromanaging harder. It also makes it harder to worry about the non-work related poo poo of your employees. How can you worry about the way someone is dressed if you never see them in person? It also makes everything about the work and a lot of leaders can't handle that kind of pressure.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

What's a fair amount of time to update a ticket after you have done the work?

Hours? Days? Asking for a friend.

Ghostnuke
Sep 21, 2005

Throw this in a pot, add some broth, a potato? Baby you got a stew going!


Bob Morales posted:

What's a fair amount of time to update a ticket after you have done the work?

Hours? Days? Asking for a friend.

I generally wait until the end of the day so my queue looks full and I don't get assigned more bullshit just because I work faster.

Weedle
May 31, 2006




Bob Morales posted:

What's a fair amount of time to update a ticket after you have done the work?

Hours? Days? Asking for a friend.

I do it immediately. If our ticketing system supported batch operations, I’d probably save it all for the end of the day, but it doesn’t, so I wouldn’t save any time and would just get annoyed at how long the page loads are.

Antioch
Apr 18, 2003
Friday, had a really productive meeting with the recently returned boss man. He's been out with a head injury for 4 months. We talked goals and I got a good idea of what's coming up in the next few months and my place in it.

Today I am back on ticket bitch duty. Setting folder permissions and enabling O365 licenses. I have scripted my job down to nothing and I'm bored as hell but escalation takes priority and I guess the other 3 guys don't want to deal with it?

So here I sit, unable to start things that are useful and engaging because every time I do, something else starts on fire.

Joda
Apr 24, 2010

When I'm off, I just like to really let go and have fun, y'know?

Fun Shoe
Not pissing me off (for once,) I just got promoted to senior with a 14ish% effective salary increase.

Being vocal about not being satisfied with your salary actually works!

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


IT VP is creating tickets for things that should be conversations, and not creating tickets for things that need to be in tickets.

This mornings examples:
    Questions about Adobe subscription: ticket created
    Request to provision DB for a new project: Teams message

porkface
Dec 29, 2000

The Fool posted:

IT VP is creating tickets for things that should be conversations, and not creating tickets for things that need to be in tickets.

This mornings examples:
    Questions about Adobe subscription: ticket created
    Request to provision DB for a new project: Teams message

That's great. Now you can participate asynchronously rather than having to be invited to the right meeting which would probably land during your lunch hour.

Partycat
Oct 25, 2004

I keep bumping into my team members not following the proc we agreed upon and then defending it with “so what” or “it’s too hard” or “I don’t see the problem” . One of those three we can work on as a group, the other two ... cmon

Lord Dudeguy
Sep 17, 2006
[Insert good English here]

Partycat posted:

I keep bumping into my team members not following the proc we agreed upon and then defending it with “so what” or “it’s too hard” or “I don’t see the problem” . One of those three we can work on as a group, the other two ... cmon

Have you gotten the "And what do you expect me to do with this?" when you hand them the proc, yet? That's my favorite.

Spring Heeled Jack
Feb 25, 2007

If you can read this you can read
Amazing. A coworker reached out to our new MSP who’s supposed to be able to assist with various tasks as needed. He was setting up a new Remote Desktop farm and needed some rules added to our SRX for various network access. He doesn’t know the syntax and isn’t super familiar with the cli so it was a good use case. They are supposed to write up the policies, we review and commit them. In this case, these new servers would need the same access as the old ones. Essentially adding new addresses and adding them to existing rule sets.

The tech replied with what I can only imagine were supposed to be internal notes, a bunch of juniper KBs and notes on how to edit rules with the cli.

I had low expectations and I am still disappointed.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"
iiNet, how the gently caress did you manage to lose DNS for the entire state of Victoria? That takes real talent.

You'd think it'd be something that would be immediately traceable to a config change or hardware install within an hour at best.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Neddy Seagoon posted:

iiNet, how the gently caress did you manage to lose DNS for the entire state of Victoria? That takes real talent.

You'd think it'd be something that would be immediately traceable to a config change or hardware install within an hour at best.

Sounds like they just hired someone to do stupid poo poo which CommBank just fired for stupid poo poo.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
A guy I fired for stealing a few months ago just texted one if his former co-workers and said he's headed here to 'get what he's owed' :ohdear:

klosterdev
Oct 10, 2006

Na na na na na na na na Batman!
Unless there more context here you should probably alert the police if you don't have security to man the front door

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

klosterdev posted:

Unless there more context here you should probably alert the police if you don't have security to man the front door

Oh, I did.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
:f5:

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe
Police are here, if he steps foot on the property he'll be arrested for criminal trespass. :shrug:

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Just emailed this to my boss. Should be interesting.


Experts. Every company should have them.

Looking at the department, I don't see that we have the experts in all of the areas that the company needs. We have people that know about a lot of different things, but for many topics we don't have an expert - someone who has been trained and certified on the topic at hand.

I would like to make the suggestion that we get someone in the department certified in each of the following:

Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA)

We don't use much Cisco-branded equipment here, but the skillset is the same when you are working with brand X. All the protocols are the same, networking is based on standards that all companies follow.

Red Hat Certified System Administrator (RHCSA)

All of our servers runs CentOS, which is based on RHEL. This will give us someone who understands permissions, security, SELinux, how to install software, server configurations, etc.

Microsoft Modern Desktop Administrator

This will give us someone who is trained to deploy, manage, and protect Windows desktops, policies and profiles.

Our current lack of knowledge in certain areas is causing us to stick with outdated methods and technologies longer than we should be, and stopping us from adopting new technologies that can improve things.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008

Bob Morales posted:

Just emailed this to my boss. Should be interesting.


Experts. Every company should have them.

Looking at the department, I don't see that we have the experts in all of the areas that the company needs. We have people that know about a lot of different things, but for many topics we don't have an expert - someone who has been trained and certified on the topic at hand.

I would like to make the suggestion that we get someone in the department certified in each of the following:

Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA)

We don't use much Cisco-branded equipment here, but the skillset is the same when you are working with brand X. All the protocols are the same, networking is based on standards that all companies follow.

Red Hat Certified System Administrator (RHCSA)

All of our servers runs CentOS, which is based on RHEL. This will give us someone who understands permissions, security, SELinux, how to install software, server configurations, etc.

Microsoft Modern Desktop Administrator

This will give us someone who is trained to deploy, manage, and protect Windows desktops, policies and profiles.

Our current lack of knowledge in certain areas is causing us to stick with outdated methods and technologies longer than we should be, and stopping us from adopting new technologies that can improve things.


Your boss: "A waste of money, I am already an expert at all of those things."

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

ponzicar posted:

Your boss: "A waste of money, I am already an expert at all of those things."
I'm expecting that, as well as:

If people get certified they will leave
Certification means nothing! Only idiots get certified
I can't have _____ take a day off to take a certification test!


I already talked to HR about it and they seem cool, so I also expect "HR WONT GIVE US TRAINGING MONEY"

5er
Jun 1, 2000


Just a small, but passionately enraging thing. I hate all loving programs that overwrite your paste buffer with anything you delete.

5er
Jun 1, 2000


Bob Morales posted:

I'm expecting that, as well as:

If people get certified they will leave
Certification means nothing! Only idiots get certified
I can't have _____ take a day off to take a certification test!


I already talked to HR about it and they seem cool, so I also expect "HR WONT GIVE US TRAINGING MONEY"

That's a whole lot of code for 'I don't want to pay people what they're worth to get them to stay.'

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

5er posted:

Just a small, but passionately enraging thing. I hate all loving programs that overwrite your paste buffer with anything you delete.

Why in the absolute hell would this ever be a thing? To prevent accidental code deletion in an IDE or something?

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

ChubbyThePhat posted:

Why in the absolute hell would this ever be a thing? To prevent accidental code deletion in an IDE or something?

For as long as it's existed X11 has overwritten your paste buffer every time you highlight something. :v:

But filling the paste buffer on deletion is stupid and alien and whoever implemented it should be fired forever.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



ChubbyThePhat posted:

Why in the absolute hell would this ever be a thing? To prevent accidental code deletion in an IDE or something?

It sounds like an intention to implement the "kill/yank" mechanic from certain Unix heritage editors.

ChubbyThePhat
Dec 22, 2006

Who nico nico needs anyone else

xzzy posted:

For as long as it's existed X11 has overwritten your paste buffer every time you highlight something. :v:

But filling the paste buffer on deletion is stupid and alien and whoever implemented it should be fired forever.

Yes this is true, but that's not deleting something.

nielsm posted:

It sounds like an intention to implement the "kill/yank" mechanic from certain Unix heritage editors.

I had never heard of this and had to look it up. Well alright then. I learned a thing.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

5er posted:

That's a whole lot of code for 'I don't want to pay people what they're worth to get them to stay.'
He used all 3. He admits we're too big to have 'everyone know everything' but wo'nt change anything.

He's going to 'think about my proposal'

5er
Jun 1, 2000


xzzy posted:

For as long as it's existed X11 has overwritten your paste buffer every time you highlight something. :v:

But filling the paste buffer on deletion is stupid and alien and whoever implemented it should be fired forever.

nielsm posted:

It sounds like an intention to implement the "kill/yank" mechanic from certain Unix heritage editors.

It's only in Windows where I have this irritating problem. Like for some programs, 'delete' defaults to 'cut' instead. I don't have this problem in Excel or Word, but it happens in the weirdest places that I can't just list them out off the top of my head right now.

vim or vi are my *nix editing go-to's, and the the idea that the pedigree for that stupid loving 'delete means cut lol' programming seems difficult to put together to me, really.

"But filling the paste buffer on deletion is stupid and alien and whoever implemented it should be fired forever."

YES. :commissar:

Bob Morales posted:

He used all 3. He admits we're too big to have 'everyone know everything' but wo'nt change anything.

He's going to 'think about my proposal'

Maybe it's the day I had and I'm projecting, but I think you should 'think about some homicide'.

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The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


I sent this e-mail today because the senior networking guy blew me off for a week before going on vacation.

quote:

Hi $director, $youremployee didn’t have a chance to get back to me before he left. Can you give me some guidance on what I need to do to get this process started?

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