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Made what might have been my best chili ever last night, 3 onions 4 thin carrots 2 celery stalks 2 deseeded habs 4 poblanos Sweated that, took it out the brown pieces of chuck, maybe a pound? cut into planks. Took that out after a sear and cubed it, added the veg back, then Worcester sauce and white wine to deglaze, thyme, a bunch of cumin, chile de arbol 1 pound kidney beans All in the pressure cooker for 55 minutes The added in tomato paste, like half a can, then simmered down for 10 minutes or so. Man idk what popped, maybe just good onions? But it's pretty fantastic.
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carrots and celery
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Oct 21, 2019 19:03
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Are you from Europe? Like, it sounds like it would taste good, but that's not chili, son.
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Oct 21, 2019 20:29
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BraveUlysses posted:carrots and celery Do you not know how to make soups and stews? A mire poix is always the base.
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Oct 22, 2019 03:17
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Do you not know how to make soups and stews? A mire poix is always the base. No, it's not. Especially in the case of chili.
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Oct 22, 2019 03:56
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celery is a natural source of nitrates which helps build flavour, not sure why everyone is going "ew its green"
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Oct 22, 2019 05:04
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:No, it's not. Especially in the case of chili. I'll gladly ignore your bad opinion.
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Oct 22, 2019 05:45
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It's used when you make your own beef stock and not retained. Otherwise if you're adding carrot and celery to the finished product, you've made a spicy beef stew
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Oct 22, 2019 08:46
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Do you not know how to make soups and stews? A mire poix is always the base. All the world is not France, my son.
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Oct 22, 2019 09:14
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That sounds good and idk why people are objecting. Flavor is flavor. Who cares if it's not a Texas bowl of red. Chili is just a stew anyway.
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Oct 22, 2019 11:02
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gwrtheyrn posted:It's used when you make your own beef stock and not retained. Otherwise if you're adding carrot and celery to the finished product, you've made a spicy beef stew Well put. It's not a question about whether it tastes good. While people will argue about things like beans and tomatoes, there are several elements which differentiate chili from other beef stews. A lack of vegetables in the final dish is definitely one of them.
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Oct 22, 2019 13:10
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SymmetryrtemmyS posted:That sounds good and idk why people are objecting. Flavor is flavor. Who cares if it's not a Texas bowl of red. Chili is just a stew anyway. Like I'm all for loving with recipes and I'm not super invested in this particular change, but there's a point when a change becomes something else entirely. Like, if I'm making gumbo, but I make it a bit more watery, and I throw in a bunch of rice while cooking instead of waiting after, I've made jambalaya. Not gumbo. This isn't like a ONE TRUE HUMMUS deal; chili has a fuckload of variants, and they're all real good. It's just that the first point I'd say you can make a change that changes the nature of the recipe is whether or not you used a mirepoix - if you did, congrats on your delicious stew, but it's no more chili than a menemen is a shakshuka
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Oct 22, 2019 13:11
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Well put. That isn't true and you sound like you got all your ideas about chili from a white dude. First of all, you aren't making a roux with chili so that separates it already. Then there's all those chilis. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 22, 2019 14:26
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Tezcatlipoca posted:That isn't true and you sound like you got all your ideas about chili from a white dude. The gently caress is this?
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Oct 22, 2019 14:32
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Doom Rooster posted:The gently caress is this? Every Mexican I've seen making chili adds a mire poix of some kind so their stew doesn't taste bland and flat. I live in Texas and have been subjected to many terrible chilis made by middle aged white dudes who couldn't layer flavors if their lives depended on it. Sounds like y'all are part of the latter group. Tezcatlipoca fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Oct 22, 2019 14:36
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Every Mexican I've seen making chili adds a mire poix of some kind so their stew doesn't taste bland and flat. I live in Texas and have been subjected to many terrible chilis made by middle aged white dudes who couldn't layer flavors if their lives depended on it. Sounds like y'all are part of the latter group. You have absolutely no idea what the gently caress you are talking about. Like, I don't even know where to start. Edit: Sorry, in a lovely mood due to some pain management issues, so being shittier than I intend to. My apologies for not being more constructive. Skipping right past the fact that chili as we know it was invented by a white dude who traveled to the southwest... Yes, lovely chili is lovely. I can't speak to what you have had and explain why those were lovely. You can quite easily get depth of flavor without mire poix. You get depth of flavor through browned meat(s), onions, garlic, a variety of toasted chilies, Mexican oregano, toasted cumin, and flavorful liquid. Doom Rooster fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Oct 22, 2019 14:40
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Doom Rooster posted:
This is just laughable. Like, mindnumbingly racist and stupid.
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Oct 22, 2019 16:38
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Tezcatlipoca posted:This is just laughable. I am sorry that literal recorded history upsets you. I assume that we are not going to see eye to eye on this one ever, so I'mma let people get back to hopefully posting chili that they made.
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Oct 22, 2019 16:43
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Doom Rooster posted:I am sorry that literal recorded history upsets you. I assume that we are not going to see eye to eye on this one ever, so I'mma let people get back to hopefully posting chili that they made. Chili originated in southern Texas, circa 1731. Tezcatlipoca posted:This is just laughable.
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Oct 22, 2019 17:03
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please dont poo poo up this thread it's a good thread i dont want it to get gassed here's an old album I put together. carrot/celery goes into my stock, not the chili itself. https://imgur.com/a/TBhxJhO I won again this year using similar recipe but with pork bones added to the stock and sans tomato Bald Stalin fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Oct 22, 2019 17:04
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Whelp, I was just excited I made something I thought was delicious and had been called chili all my life, my mom definitely had carrots in the one she made for us growing up, so take it up with her.
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Oct 22, 2019 17:11
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Carillon posted:Whelp, I was just excited I made something I thought was delicious and had been called chili all my life, my mom definitely had carrots in the one she made for us growing up, so take it up with her. never mind the peanut gallery, if it's got meat and chili peppers in it it counts.
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Oct 22, 2019 17:19
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Ranter posted:please dont poo poo up this thread it's a good thread i dont want it to get gassed That looks delicious. Did you cook finish it off in the Instapot? Carillon posted:Whelp, I was just excited I made something I thought was delicious and had been called chili all my life, my mom definitely had carrots in the one she made for us growing up, so take it up with her. I apologize for my part in the derail. You made good food and you're happy about it. Take some pictures next time!
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Oct 22, 2019 18:01
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Doom Rooster posted:I am sorry that literal recorded history upsets you. I assume that we are not going to see eye to eye on this one ever, so I'mma let people get back to hopefully posting chili that they made. I bet you also think Columbus discovered America and breakfast tacos were invented in San Antonio.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:06
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Can you just drop it? I would go read dnd or r/politics if i wanted to go watch people call each other racists or whatever. Call whatever you make whatever you want, but I'm not obligated to agree with you and neither are you obligated to agree with me.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:14
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gwrtheyrn posted:Can you just drop it? I would go read dnd or r/politics if i wanted to go watch people call each other racists or whatever. Call whatever you make whatever you want, but I'm not obligated to agree with you and neither are you obligated to agree with me. Stop perpetuating racist myths about white people inventing everything and I won't call it out. It's very simple.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:21
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Is chili a sandwich?
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Oct 22, 2019 18:29
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Junkie Disease posted:Is chili a sandwich? It's a condiment for sandwiches.
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Stop perpetuating racist myths about white people inventing everything and I won't call it out. It's very simple. I did nothing of the sort and i still don't want to read you argue about especially since you were already beaten to the punch in a much more reasonable manner
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Stop perpetuating racist myths about white people inventing everything and I won't call it out. It's very simple. Aren't you the same guy who was insisting earlier that all soups and stews start with mirepoix?
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marshalljim posted:Aren't you the same guy who was insisting earlier that all soups and stews start with mirepoix? Not all, just the good ones. Creole food uses onions, celery and bell pepper; parts of Asia use garlic, onions and ginger; for chili I've seen people do onions, celery and chilis or onions celery and tomatoes. It is the base for so many dishes, not just stews and soups, that I'm baffled so many of you are clueless about it.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:47
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mirepoix != holy trinity please stfu Beer4TheBeerGod posted:That looks delicious. Did you cook finish it off in the Instapot? Nah I always make competition chili in the enameled dutch oven. If I'm making a small enough batch, I'll do stock in the IP but even the big IP is too small for my meaty stock purposes. Bald Stalin fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 22, 2019 |
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Oct 22, 2019 18:49
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Ranter posted:mirepoix != holy trinity Yes, it does. Sorry there are regional differences? Oh my bad can I only call certain things sofrito?
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How do people use canned chipotle in adobo? I assume it's a fools errand to try to get rid of the seeds and usually just toss the entire can into a blender. I certainly wouldn't mind being able to get rid of the seeds if there was a way to do so easily, but usually the seeds are already out of the peppers themselves and inside the sauce. Maybe put it through a strainer or something?
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Are they making your chili bitter? You'd have to use a lot for that to happen. I'd say don't bother with it since the seeds aren't spicy and won't be a huge part of the dish.
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I forget which brand, but there are some that are already de-seeded. I posted about it a couple pages back. Let me dig it up.Ranter posted:I think it's San Marcos that don't de-seed theirs, though. Whereas the orange brand with the senorita are de-seeded. Not saying this is good or bad, but the lazy in me prefers the latter.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:14
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Main reason I want to get rid of it is because of texture. Sounds like I should just buy a different brand because yes I too am lazy
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Oct 22, 2019 19:16
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Making an all-bean chili later today, pretty excited.
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Nov 3, 2019 19:19
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Tezcatlipoca posted:Yes, it does. Sorry there are regional differences? Oh my bad can I only call certain things sofrito? To most of us, mirepoix specifically means onion, celery and carrot.
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:Making an all-bean chili later today, pretty excited. What kinda beans are you using?
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