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Wow, seems like everyone remotely adjacent to anyone that isn't Bernie is garbage?? Who knew.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:54
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Streak posted:Wow, seems like everyone remotely adjacent to anyone that isn't Bernie is garbage?? Who knew. just wait for the blue checks to try to spin that as "BERNIE SUPPORTER ROSARIO DAWSON" using clips that are oddly only from 4 years ago.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:54
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Corey Booker is finally gonna dominate a news cycle.
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Oct 22, 2019 18:55
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Endorph posted:i thought i knew where this was going but then it took on an entirely new dimension. jesus yea when I read the first bit I assumed this was some weird like 'we were at a bar and some poo poo started and suddenly Rosario was brawling with this person and she said some hosed up poo poo' but this is somehow even more psychotic and terrible!
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Oct 22, 2019 18:56
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terfs for booker 2020
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Oct 22, 2019 19:02
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RottenK posted:terfs for booker 2020 careful that's a sizable dem pie slice, could help him!
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Oct 22, 2019 19:04
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Booker says he isn't transphobic because one of his close friends, T-bone, is trans masc. Hence the name.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:21
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/hillaryclinton.com fake news, it's been there for ages
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Oct 22, 2019 19:24
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Concerned Citizen posted:https://web.archive.org/web/*/hillaryclinton.com that's very good to hear but just to be safe let's put her in the big plastic cube Magneto was in
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Oct 22, 2019 19:27
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sexpig by night posted:https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rosario-dawson-her-family-sued-over-alleged-transphobic-assault-n1069756
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Oct 22, 2019 19:28
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Ague Proof posted:Booker says he isn't transphobic because one of his close friends, T-bone, is trans masc. Hence the name. lmao
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Oct 22, 2019 19:40
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https://mobile.twitter.com/EmersonPolling/status/1186677861975019520
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Oct 22, 2019 19:44
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And the pundits will continue to insist that there are more than 3 candidates
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Oct 22, 2019 19:47
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A colleague of mine that worked in DNC pol-tech says most of the ex-Clinton people went to either Biden or Harris' campaign. He partly left the industry because of his experiences there.VitalSigns posted:"Medicare For All will never work because polling shows most Americans love private insurance" We're doomed, let's get Bezos to shoot us all into the sun instead of trying to save us.
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Oct 22, 2019 19:50
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Failed Imagineer posted:And the pundits will continue to insist that there are more than 3 candidates The indoors will continue to insist there are 4 candidates: Biden, Warren, Buttigieg and Harris
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Oct 22, 2019 19:50
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:The indoors will continue to insist there are 4 candidates: Biden, Warren, Buttigieg and Harris Don't forget Klob, who is so loving funny, honestly you guys! Didn't you see the debate?!
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Oct 22, 2019 19:51
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Majorian posted:Don't forget Klob, who is so loving funny, honestly you guys! Didn't you see the debate?! THE GREAT MIDWESTERN HOPE 
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Oct 22, 2019 20:06
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Failed Imagineer posted:And the pundits will continue to insist that there are more than 3 candidates Please, CNN tells me there's only two! Biden and Warren. I'm not kidding. There is little to no mention of Sanders on that channel, except of course when he had his heart attack.
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Oct 22, 2019 20:07
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it's over the polls since the debates clearly show that the AoC endorsement and the consistent left-wing attacks on warren have finished her off
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Oct 22, 2019 20:10
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Look at all those candidates getting outpolled by none of the above. That would no doubt be pretty crushing if any of these ghouls could experience shame.
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Oct 22, 2019 20:22
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VitalSigns posted:"Medicare For All will never work because polling shows most Americans love private insurance" This is why the only useful policy-related polling is polling that establishes what outcome people want. The vast majority of people have no clue how different policies correspond to different outcomes, so it's up to us as individuals to judge what we think will best accomplish the things people want. In this case most people definitely want "quality healthcare they can easily afford, with most care ideally being free at point of service," and I feel pretty confident that if you could somehow beam an accurate vision of what life under MfA would be like into peoples' heads (instead of letting them interpret it on their own), a strong majority would support it over other options.
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Oct 22, 2019 20:23
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It's hard to not believe there is a media blackout when you have poo poo like this: https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1186670060284329986?s=19 Bernie isn't listed in the headline because they didn't even poll for a result against him.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:It's hard to not believe there is a media blackout when you have poo poo like this: Also, note that they *did* poll for Harris and Buttigieg (if it's the one I'm thinking of). There's no denying that there's a clear strategy to ignore or downplay Sanders, though the extent to which it's "commanded from above" isn't clear (there's an equally good chance that the sort of person who ends up working in media is just heavily inclined to be opposed to Sanders and the left, though I also wouldn't be surprised if there were direct orders to reduce Sanders-related content).
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Ytlaya posted:This is why the only useful policy-related polling is polling that establishes what outcome people want. Precisely. It's also a great indicator for why "if you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan; if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor" is going to backfire catastrophically just like it did for Obama. A public option isn't going to stop employers from changing / canceling health insurance plans. And every time that happens, there's another voter who is going to blame President Pete for lying to them. He said I could keep my plan and I lost it!!!
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Nonsense posted:https://twitter.com/AdamParkhomenko/status/1186416471041302528 Imagine working to be a political operative and getting roasted so completely by shithead teens who got into politics because of a podcast
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Oct 22, 2019 21:13
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At what point are we allowed to just admit its a conscious strategy to influence the election, when there's widespread reports of voter suppression that tips the election to Warren/Biden and not a single mainstream outlet mentions it, so that we're forced to accept it as fait accompli?
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unwantedplatypus posted:At what point are we allowed to just admit its a conscious strategy to influence the election, when there's widespread reports of voter suppression that tips the election to Warren/Biden and not a single mainstream outlet mentions it, so that we're forced to accept it as fait accompli? Lol if you haven't been admitting that since 2016
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Look at all those candidates getting outpolled by none of the above. That would no doubt be pretty crushing if any of these ghouls could experience shame. Well you see, as they are below none of the above, they are clearly actually winning.
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unwantedplatypus posted:At what point are we allowed to just admit its a conscious strategy to influence the election, when there's widespread reports of voter suppression that tips the election to Warren/Biden and not a single mainstream outlet mentions it, so that we're forced to accept it as fait accompli? To quote the pollster "If you're concerned that Sanders is left out, by that rationale any poll that leaves out Bennet, Booker or Steyer in a series of head to head is just as problematic"  https://twitter.com/librab103/status/1186725442960662529
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Wicked Them Beats posted:Look at all those candidates getting outpolled by none of the above. That would no doubt be pretty crushing if any of these ghouls could experience shame. Which candidate will triple their polling numbers by changing their name to "Someone Else" My money is on Klobuchar
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I've been told by centrists in this very forum that the left needs to compromise, work with the system, and accept things how they are. Ignoring the furthest left candidate is just another step along the way to change.
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unwantedplatypus posted:At what point are we allowed to just admit its a conscious strategy to influence the election, when there's widespread reports of voter suppression that tips the election to Warren/Biden and not a single mainstream outlet mentions it, so that we're forced to accept it as fait accompli? That's the problem - the people on the other side of these discussions are unwilling to believe anything that isn't from a mainstream source. There is no standard of proof they could accept for claims like this, because they will demand proof of intent that likely doesn't exist (and even if it does exist, they can always claim it's limited to those individuals - see the DNC e-mails in 2016). Without proof of intent, they can say "well it could have been a mistake, or they could have had some other reason for ignoring Sanders." The issue isn't so much that they're not willing to trust non-mainstream sources (since obviously those are often unreliable as well), but more that their "default" is to assume the mainstream narrative is true until proven otherwise (and the standard they require for proving otherwise is impossible to meet). You saw a similar thing happen with the Trump/Russia stuff; if you attempted to show skepticism about claims in that case, they would demand proof - their default belief was whatever impression they came away with after reading the WaPo or whatever. They placed the burden on others to provide concrete proof that their own beliefs were false. The rational part of me realizes that there's no meaningful difference between these people and conservatives who watch Fox News, and that it's pointless to engage with them, but I still keep banging my head against that wall for some reason.
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Oct 22, 2019 22:28
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Tulsi is still milking this poo poo, lmao https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1186763222193299457
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Oct 22, 2019 23:08
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Good for Tulsi. Do Warren next
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Oct 22, 2019 23:09
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Vox Nihili posted:Tulsi is still milking this poo poo, lmao gently caress her UP Tulsi!!
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Oct 22, 2019 23:12
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Hillary Clinton is trolling ya'll and sipping tea like that one Kermit gif. Hillary is all out of fucks to give, and I'm here for it
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Vox Nihili posted:Tulsi is still milking this poo poo, lmao might as well, the only time she's relevant is when she knifes people
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Oct 22, 2019 23:23
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sexpig by night posted:might as well, the only time she's relevant is when she knifes people Yeah, she's good at it.
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Vox Nihili posted:Tulsi is still milking this poo poo, lmao shes right
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