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ronya posted:Christmas election eh More or less CON seats than 2017 though?
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I think fewer, CON remainers were already a headache for the party in the Euro elections, and Scotland's 13 CON seats are shaky too
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Oct 23, 2019 04:11
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Alright it's 4am and I've been drinking heavily to channel my inner spirit animal (communist tweaker cop). It's time to talk about Disco again (not the lovely TV program, Disco Elysium). Let's discuss the EU analogy. { Spoilers }, obviously.  Context: A foreign bureaucrat in a white shirt stands in the room of his (heavily implied) homosexual lover. In a war torn country where a communist revolution has been mercilessly crushed by an amphibious invasion, this sleazy business man pays for the education of his young 'friend'. He talks to the local 'citizens militia' who are investigating a brutal murder. They have recently informed a grieving widow of the untimely death of her husband. Killed while in an alcoholic haze, slipping on a poorly maintained pier and cracking his skull open. Another victim of depression and social alienation, or so the jaded cops assume. The bureaucrat pontificates on the importance of maintaining inflation at 2%. This is vital to the 'international community', which one day the demoralised locals can join. Maybe.  ... You can just feel the Eastern European influence dripping off this game. loving buy it.
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Oct 23, 2019 04:34
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Christmas election: Labour gains roughly 80 seats and gains majority, EU grants another extension until October 31st of next year with a renegotiated deal with a remain in EU option going up in another referendum in summer 2020, renegotiated deal has free movement so the right wing turnout is depressed, remain wins by a comfortable margin, Corbyn calls an emergency budget in January to end austerity and return public spending to pre-1976 levels by 2025, carbon emissions capped by 2030, 40 years of NHS privatization reversed, unoccupied flats are repossessed by the government, railways and utilities nationalized by the end of 2021, JSA cancelled, arms sales to Saudi Arabia and Israel ended. At least that's what my early morning thoughts are thinking. Chuka Umana fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Oct 23, 2019 05:09
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So, uh, what happened?
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Oct 23, 2019 05:41
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:So, uh, what happened? Boris lost a vote that he needed in order to get Brexit done by the 31st. We're just waiting for the European Council to grant the extension to Article 50 officially and once they do Corbyn will whip for a GE.
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Oct 23, 2019 07:07
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Feeling a little more optimistic this morning, but I’m really worried about what how this could be screwed up on any side.
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Oct 23, 2019 07:13
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The stakes have never been higher, have they? Imagine 5 years of Boris.
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Oct 23, 2019 07:32
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Remember that Labour only need a 5% swing to unseat Boris in his own constituency. In 2017 they gained an extra 13% there. Even if you don't think Labour will win an outright majority, this surely must seem both achievable and potentially hilarious.
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Oct 23, 2019 07:57
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I remember hearing as well that the tories are still drat near bankrupt after May's last attempt at crushing the saboteurs, and have lost most of their big supporters because the remainer-leaning supporters don't want to pay for the leavers and vice versa. So once they have to at least pretend not to spend government cash on campaigning we should see the Labour message taking over a little more. The problem is that in the delay before the GE the Tories and right wing press have done a really good job of poisoning Corbyn's image so that people refuse to listen to the bad antisemitic socialist in case his magic words trick people into brexiting in a nandos or whatever. Obviously the way around this is to talk to moderates starting with a combination of (a) Things are already really bad under the tories and (b) did you know Labour policy is actually blah blah blah as it pertains to whatever issues they agree are bad. Also pick your battles - I don't talk to my gammon father-in-law at all about this because he's an angry, leave.eu reposting twat who just likes to shout about immigrants and gets punchy whenever he feels threatened. My mam & dad though have been fairly nationalised by my brother and I just explaining things as patiently as we can, and happily spread the good word of Corbyn to any of their friends who start spouting conservative talking points. There is hope, comrades. Captain Fargle posted:Boris lost a vote that he needed in order to get Brexit done by the 31st. We're just waiting for the European Council to grant the extension to Article 50 officially and once they do Corbyn will whip for a GE.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:03
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This is for Tess https://twitter.com/sunny_hundal/status/1186899834361413632?s=19
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Oct 23, 2019 08:04
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I feel the same way about Bastani as I do about Skawkbox, and view anything he says with healthy scepticism.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:16
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Once the extension's been granted, Corbyn calls for VONC. In what the papers retcon as an act of strategic genius, Johnson airily says that it's not appropriate to dither and delay with an election now that the withdrawal bill is moving forward. Cons whip abstain - VONC fails. Britain is swallowed by the sea.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:20
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Maybe this journalist should....report on it instead of just tweet about it? https://twitter.com/tnewtondunn/status/1186786650728390656?s=19
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Oct 23, 2019 08:23
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Trying to predict the outcome of an election campaign is a fools game. May went into hers with a 20+ point lead and some of the best popularity ratings ever. Plus Labour actually has an HQ working for the party this time. Not to mention Boris apparently wants lots of head-to-head debate, and he's going to come off as loving crap next to Corbyn.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:24
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Bobby Deluxe posted:My mam & dad though have been fairly nationalised by my brother and I
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Oct 23, 2019 08:24
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Good news everybody! https://twitter.com/heraldscotland/status/1186900059750895616
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Oct 23, 2019 08:27
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Bringing this thread back to its true purpose of food chat, does anyone know what a "bacon splash" is? A friend is claiming it is very common but literally no-one else has ever heard of it. (it's a bacon cob with a spoon of tinned tomatoes on)
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Oct 23, 2019 08:33
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pitch a fitness posted:Once the extension's been granted, Corbyn calls for VONC. In what the papers retcon as an act of strategic genius, Johnson airily says that it's not appropriate to dither and delay with an election now that the withdrawal bill is moving forward. Cons whip abstain - VONC fails. Britain is swallowed by the sea. It's the "election now" bills that need 2/3 of MPs. A VONC only needs a majority so if the tories abstain then it passes.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:39
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Guavanaut posted:Want to hear more about this process. Bobby: *points at parents* nationalised
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Oct 23, 2019 08:40
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jabby posted:Not to mention Boris apparently wants lots of head-to-head debate, and he's going to come off as loving crap next to Corbyn. Hmm, you've got to consider the audiences rather than any pretense of objective ability here. Boris is quite willing to bully, interupt and generally monster an event given the chance so unless there's significant time where they can't talk over each other (as in they aren't even in the same room, nevermind whether they're supposed to or not) then Boris is just going to interupt Corbyn during any section where hes making a decent point to own the libs even if he just exclaims nonsense and that'll play to his base because it's showing dominance and control while stopping Corbyn effectively communicating to his base or making points to others. Corbyn would need to aggressively defend himself, not just his platform, which is not something I've really seen him do on stage.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:44
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keep punching joe posted:Good news everybody! This is going to go the way of New Coke, except made from girders.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:46
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Qwertycoatl posted:It's the "election now" bills that need 2/3 of MPs. A VONC only needs a majority so if the tories abstain then it passes. Oh yeah that's silly of me. I stand by the 'an election will be declared Labour's waste of time' and the sinking into the sea bits.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:47
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Ms Adequate posted:Really, really not seeing why people are fully convinced Labour's absolutely doomed in the election. Because we live in hell world and good things cannot happen.
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Oct 23, 2019 08:52
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Lmao if this is how we get an election https://twitter.com/Steven_Swinford/status/1186913974434054145?s=19
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Oct 23, 2019 08:59
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Qwertycoatl posted:Bobby: *points at parents* nationalised The bank of mum & dad is now a state owned investment vehicle
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Oct 23, 2019 09:00
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Qwertycoatl posted:Bobby: *points at parents* nationalised
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Oct 23, 2019 09:02
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Guavanaut posted:This is bad for Jeremiah Kibbutzim. Please don't doxx me
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Oct 23, 2019 09:03
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Jose posted:Lmao if this is how we get an election Hell of a start to a campaign, to declare you have no confidence in yourself to govern.
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Oct 23, 2019 09:04
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The bank of mum & dad is now a state owned investment vehicle
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Oct 23, 2019 09:04
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My grandbanks ceased trading
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Oct 23, 2019 09:05
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Captain Fargle posted:Boris lost a vote that he needed in order to get Brexit done by the 31st. We're just waiting for the European Council to grant the extension to Article 50 officially and once they do Corbyn will whip for a GE. Well that explains why I saw Very Serious People retweeting the SNP etc screaming about Labour MPs voting for a thing.
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Oct 23, 2019 09:06
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Is there PMQs today or has Boris got another note from his mum?
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Oct 23, 2019 09:10
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A pre xmas election only makes me sad because I'm probably still going to be too ill to do leafleting or letter folding or whatever they get people who are too socially awkward/anxious to do other than doorsteppingSanford posted:Bringing this thread back to its true purpose of food chat, does anyone know what a "bacon splash" is? A friend is claiming it is very common but literally no-one else has ever heard of it. I haven't heard it called that, but from experience of greasy spoons/independent sandwich shops, terminology is quite varied and unique with sandwiches named after patrons or local landmarks etc  Such as this morning's wonderful treat could be equally called a fried egg slice or egg in a basket to me, but "bullseye eggs", "eggs in a frame", "egg in a hole", "gashouse eggs", "gasthaus eggs", "hole in one", "one-eyed Jack", "one-eyed Pete", "pirate's eye" and "popeye" are all other names for it according to google
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Oct 23, 2019 09:16
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xtothez posted:Remember that Labour only need a 5% swing to unseat Boris in his own constituency. In 2017 they gained an extra 13% there. He's not the Emperor, it's not like chucking him down a shaft is going to make the tories collapse. Him being out of politics is completely meaningless if the tories are given the mandate to spend five more years murdering people by the thousands. This isn't a game edit - and yeah i know, gotta take your levity somewhere don't mean to be a dick
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Oct 23, 2019 09:25
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OwlFancier posted:Look analysis and context is your job, I'm just a journalist, it's my job to repeat things that the government says to me, but do NOT accuse me of being a spokesperson for the government. On the plus side him and laurak etc. are all working themselves out of a job. Trump has already figured out he can just make statements directly on twitter, others will follow soon. The days of needing a trusted messenger to convey statements from the inner court to the huddle masses below are long over.
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Oct 23, 2019 09:28
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DesperateDan posted:I haven't heard it called that, but from experience of greasy spoons/independent sandwich shops, terminology is quite varied and unique with sandwiches named after patrons or local landmarks etc What is it called with smoked salmon underneath, cos that's what I had this morning. If it isn't named already I propose "fisherman's hole".
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Oct 23, 2019 09:28
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Also worth noting that Boris is PM now and that'll give him a bump in his constituency - I'm willing to say unseating him is basically unachievable (but limiting his majority is still worthwhile)
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Oct 23, 2019 09:29
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Also worth noting that Boris is PM now and that'll give him a bump in his constituency - I'm willing to say unseating him is basically unachievable (but limiting his majority is still worthwhile) Balfour got unseated in 1906, and he was infinitely more competent than Joris Bohnson.
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The advice given to migrants (like me) is that you should register for a proxy vote rather than postal as the forms won't be sent in time. Looking forward to making my very Conservative father vote directly for the Labour candidate for Islington North in the inevitable GE.
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