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The Cheshire Cat posted:I expect they'll have a few bookmarks since people actually did use them in CK2, unlike EU4, but I'm pretty sure they've said they're never going to do the whole "pick any date to start on" thing again. I would assume so, because the trailer had William the Conqeror in it and if you start at 867 in CK2, by 1066 continental Europe is just an enormous blob called "Francia", England is run by pagan vikings, and the Normans don't exist.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I'd say it fits better in CK2 than it does in EU4, since CK2 is dealing more closely with the people and how their internal power structures work. Feudal christian lords, muslim sultans, orthodox emperors, and pagan tribesmen all have pretty different power structures that involve dealing with people very differently, some of them don't even really jive with Crusader Kings's focus on following a single character and their direct progeny. Is the latest info re: CK2 theocracies still that they are only not playable because the Papacy handles most events in the game?
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GrossMurpel posted:Is the latest info re: CK2 theocracies still that they are only not playable because the Papacy handles most events in the game? I assume it's always been a low priority because there's basically no interesting theocracies outside the pope but I think the big obstacle is that the game is based on dynastic succession and obviously for Christian theocracies you can't produce dynastic successors.
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I kinda think they should drop that. Or make which character you play as be an option. The dynastic succession mechanic is fun but sometimes I want to just follow a title through its history regardless of family, or follow a family through various bastards and daughters.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I kinda think they should drop that. Or make which character you play as be an option. The dynastic succession mechanic is fun but sometimes I want to just follow a title through its history regardless of family, or follow a family through various bastards and daughters. That would be cool. There was always a kind of weird dissonance I would feel with CK2 where you would often be in an antagonistic relationship with hiers or family members and working to limit their power, and then suddenly you are playing as them and have to suffer the negative effects of your own past actions. It can be unsatisfying.
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tombom posted:and obviously for Christian theocracies you can't produce dynastic successors. You sure about that?
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Communist Walrus posted:You sure about that? dynastic successors you absolutely cannot biological sons with the same grandparents as yourself, absolutely :thatscatholicism: fuf posted:That would be cool. It's also part of the charm of CK too, though. Actually it could be as simple as making the heirs to titles different from the "next player character" heir. Like maybe I've set up the Kingdom to pass smoothly to my legitimate son Prince Fancypants von Fucksburg, but am more interested in playing my bastard who has somehow become count of Algiers. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 15:08 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:They said the Old Gods 867 start date is the default CK3 start date now. That's good, it was the best start date that was relatively balanced between the different religions/cultures.
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fuf posted:That would be cool. To me, this is exactly why CK is interesting. You can't just focus on short-term stability; you always need to take succession into account. Of course, sometimes it's fun to follow a branch of the family instead. The events in CK2 that make it possible to switch to a cadet branch when winning a crusade make that possible, but I suppose it could be made more general.
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I never play the norse because they're toxic masculinity. lovely and gross.
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Average Bear posted:I never play the norse because they're toxic masculinity. lovely and gross. You can reform them and institute gender equality.
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Athas posted:You can reform them and institute gender equality. Or enatic clans!
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Meet the inbred dwarf who's going to make the medieval world woke or die trying.
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fully👏manual👏woke👏earth👏feudalism👏
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Average Bear posted:I never play the norse because they're toxic masculinity. lovely and gross. aren't you the same dude who had strong opinions about calling people "kebabs"? e: yeah you are, you should try learning what phrases like "toxic masculinity" mean instead of desperately yelling catch phrases to own the sjws
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Agean90 posted:fully👏manual👏woke👏earth👏feudalism👏 Wow, they keep adding more and more rock puns with this Lithoid species pack!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:aren't you the same dude who had strong opinions about calling people "kebabs"? Calling Ottomans "kebab" and calling everyone who doesn't like it "some wokie" since 2010
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:aren't you the same dude who had strong opinions about calling people "kebabs"? Lmao
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:aren't you the same dude who had strong opinions about calling people "kebabs"? That was easy
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Average Bear posted:That was easy wow what a puppetmaster, i am in awe of this fellow's skills, he thought to himself "i'll be lovely and make people unhappy, or at least point it out" and then it happened
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John Lee posted:wow what a puppetmaster, i am in awe of this fellow's skills, he thought to himself "i'll be lovely and make people unhappy, or at least point it out" You should be. Trolling is a art.
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Women's rights in the Nordic culture were better than in most of the rest of Europe at the time. They had their own property that they would take with them after a divorce. Their position worsened after Christianity arrived.
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:Their position worsened after Christianity arrived. This can pretty much sum up history.
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:Their position worsened after Christianity arrived.
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Arrhythmia posted:Lmao
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Please don't derail the thread again. Blow off some steam in the relevant cspam thread if you gotta. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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What in tarnation.
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I do honestly look and talk like that.
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Cant you people just ignore this idiot? He is begging for attention since his idiotic defense of "remove kebab" didint got the warm reception he expected Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:Cant you people just ignore this idiot? Average Bear posted:Please don't derail the thread again. Blow off some steam in the relevant cspam thread if you gotta. You can take it to my PMs if you feel you're up to direct confrontation but please avoid posting any more cringe. vvv Don't be like this guy. Keep the "witty" lowercase retorts to cspam, quit making GBS threads up the thread. Average Bear fucked around with this message at 18:49 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Average Bear posted:please avoid posting any more cringe. Might be time to take your own advice there buddy
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This, but instead of acting retarded he’s just making fun of one bad post, and instead of 1 person calmly saying “gently caress off” it’s 20 people crying
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Average Bear posted:You can take it to my PMs if you feel you're up to direct confrontation but please avoid posting any more cringe. You're really good at pretending to be the dumbest person in the room
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Average Bear posted:You can take it to my PMs if you feel you're up to direct confrontation but please avoid posting any more cringe. Just letting you know I deleted whatever you sent me, I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you outside of this thread lol
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PinheadSlim posted:You're really good at pretending to be the dumbest person in the room It's really quite impressive. It's like Zaphod except ironic. Powerful posting.
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Lotti Fuehrscheim posted:Their position worsened after Christianity arrived.
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I like paradox games, and would like them better if I got to play one called victoria 3 (vicky3 for short)
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PinheadSlim posted:Just letting you know I deleted whatever you sent me, I have absolutely no interest in engaging with you outside of this thread lol It said "Thank you, but please keep it outside of the thread, I don't want to poo poo it up for 3 pages again". Seriously guys I got nothing against you personally. But you can't have a several page meltdown every time I clown on someone. Mods don't like it and I'm trying to abide by their wishes, you can too. I'm having fun cracking jokes on the forums, I'll hash out any issues in PMs which I'm sure you guys can handle too. Average Bear fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Lol well in an effort to stop loving around and get back on topic, I downloaded CK2 since it's free now, but is it worth playing without any expansions or is it like Victoria 2?
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