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https://twitter.com/lsv/status/1187041434408538112 So should I just go ahead and sell my JVPs now? Or maybe a deck will surface that uses it? I mean I should probably sell ALL my cards now (goodbye my two duals I've never used), if I'm honest. I just shoved everything in a closet because aside from the occasional prerelease and draft I don't play really.
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odiv posted:https://twitter.com/lsv/status/1187041434408538112 You should definitely sell anything you aren't currently using that spiked in price.
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Oct 23, 2019 17:26
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Keeo some EDH decks on hand for parties, etc.
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Oct 23, 2019 17:27
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axeil posted:IANAL (EW or someone who is correct me if I'm wrong) but couldn't they completely hose the promissory estoppel claim by saying they don't recognize a secondary market and the cards only differ in value from their rarity? if there were magic words you could say to destroy a promissory estoppel claim, then the claim as a practical matter would not exist
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Oct 23, 2019 18:14
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Tubgoat posted:Keeo some EDH decks on hand for parties, etc. Just keep some baby wipes if you think you're going to need them
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Oct 23, 2019 18:32
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evilweasel posted:if there were magic words you could say to destroy a promissory estoppel claim, then the claim as a practical matter would not exist I HEREBY DECLARE THAT YOUR RELIANCE ON THE PROMISE WAS, AND CONTINUES TO BE, UNREASONABLE 
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Oct 23, 2019 18:33
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ilmucche posted:Just realised that the carnage tyrants and check lands I've been putting off buying post rotation are likely going to spike now. drat. Just got mine yesterday from my local shop and my card flipping buddy. Word to the wise here, a full set of checks might not be the smartest move. The enemy pain lands were printed in Origins, but also mostly got reprints in commander products to make them sit at the sub $1 level each sans Shivan reef. I guess they are worse than checks, but in some decks I see them as better than fastlands (which are also legal in the same colors) and like shocks they are the duals you can guarantee come in untapped. A playset of Yavimaya coasts (C19) are less than a single hinterland habor, as an example. Aether hub could also be a good land to add if you only need a color splash, and they are sitting at a quarter each on tcgplayer. I don't think either of these is such a step down in power that I wouldn't try them in this new format. My "full set of checklands" includes like four sets of enemy pain lands in them. Shocks are the obvious best in format land in most cases, but I don't see full sets of those being pocket change for most people. I just feel lucky that I got the last parts of my modern Bant spirits deck on Sunday morning. At the time I felt dumb for not waiting for the ban sale, but I saw sub $5 spell quellers and saw that as more savings than I'd ever get otherwise. It doesn't make up for the bloodghasts I bought the day before though  . I'm done with buying anything pricey ($5+) for modern until I know if it is going to become legacy locally.
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Oct 23, 2019 18:37
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Panzeh posted:Splinter twin would be absolutely fine in the current modern format, so would dig and pod. Splinter Twin would be fine in the current modern format, which is an indictment of the current modern format. also dig is broken
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Oct 23, 2019 19:13
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Lone Goat posted:Just keep some baby wipes if you think you're going to need them
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Oct 23, 2019 19:16
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Tubgoat posted:Nope, triage goes Kleenex, napkin, paper towel, washcloth, hand towel, actual towel, dirty laundry, clothes I'm wearing at the time, clean laundry. I'd put socks at like 4th, those things are pretty much disposable
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Oct 23, 2019 19:50
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I think WotC is actively trying to make sure Merfolk is never a deck again in any format. The cutoff for Pioneer is Return to Ravnica. Master of the Pearl Trident was in Core Set 2013. A single set off the cutoff point. 
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Oct 23, 2019 19:52
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https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1187079434391736321?s=19 For those curious if people care about Pioneer.
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Lone Goat posted:I'd put socks at like 4th, those things are pretty much disposable Count Bleck posted:I think WotC is actively trying to make sure Merfolk is never a deck again in any format.
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Oct 23, 2019 19:56
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ShaneB posted:https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1187079434391736321?s=19 When is your podcast going to be Pioneer focused? That seems to be what all the cool kids are gearing up to do.
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Oct 23, 2019 20:01
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Birthing pod should be legal in every format
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Oct 23, 2019 20:03
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Sickening posted:You should definitely sell anything you aren't currently using that spiked in price. Along these lines, is there a goon buy/sell thread? I've got some Mox Opals I bought waaay back when I got back into Magic and actually played standard Tempered Steel (god, 8 years ago) that need a new home.* *Please don't PM me with offers just yet- my brother's got the physical cards since he was playing them in Modern Affinity, and I'm not sure when I'll be able to get my physical hands on them. And yes, I've talked to him about it and he's on board.
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Oct 23, 2019 20:12
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Rogue 7 posted:Along these lines, is there a goon buy/sell thread? I've got some Mox Opals I bought waaay back when I got back into Magic and actually played standard Tempered Steel (god, 8 years ago) that need a new home.* https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3679632
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And you any goons currently make content for Pioneer and want their poo poo linked in what is currently most popular dedicated subreddit for Pioneer, let me know. Podcast, articles, I could give a poo poo.
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Oct 23, 2019 20:18
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Tubgoat posted:And of course he's on board!, Affinity's deader than decks centered around actually-banned cards. Cheers, thanks! And I'd mention that to him, but my modern deck is B/W tokens, so glass houses and all that...
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Oct 23, 2019 20:19
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Rogue 7 posted:Cheers, thanks! I can't foresee anything getting banned from tokens, unless I'm missing an obvious one?
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Oct 23, 2019 20:20
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Tubgoat posted:I can't foresee anything getting banned from tokens, unless I'm missing an obvious one? Nothing in the deck is banworthy and I think it has like 2 top 8's ever, so the glass houses part was about playing underpowered decks.
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evilweasel posted:if there were magic words you could say to destroy a promissory estoppel claim, then the claim as a practical matter would not exist Not to mention that the very promise they made was because of the secondary market. https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/official-reprint-policy-2010-03-10
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Oct 23, 2019 20:31
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Tubgoat posted:And of course he's on board!, Affinity's deader than decks centered around actually-banned cards. I wonder if there's a tier 1 deck in modern with 4 opals in it that isn't affinity making the price so high
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ShaneB posted:https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/1187079434391736321?s=19 for those of you who keep track of the general community, can you tell me if people are legitimately excited to play pioneer, or a shitload of people are hoping to go mtg finance? i guess the in between of 'get to play a format and not be priced out of it' but i guess my primary question is ignoring price points does the format actually excite people
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rabidsquid posted:for those of you who keep track of the general community, can you tell me if people are legitimately excited to play pioneer, or a shitload of people are hoping to go mtg finance? i guess the in between of 'get to play a format and not be priced out of it' but i guess my primary question is ignoring price points does the format actually excite people Most people I know seem generally very interested, while acknowledging that bans will be needed. At modern locals last night people were chatting about deck ideas and seemed enthusiastic and people in the discords I frequent have chatted it up a lot and seem largely positive as well.
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I wonder if this is because people who have maybe been dancing around getting into Modern now have a much cheaper and relatively more accessible path to a new constructed format, also WOTC seems to have put way more effort and structure into how they're pushing Pioneer whereas Historic was just dumped in our laps with the lovely 2:1 wildcard conversion thing (until they walked it back). Standard+ is not really the draw they must've thought it would be. If I had the time I'd probably work on finishing the Spirits deck I was slowly acquiring cards for and try out some Pioneer stuff.
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Apparently you can play Historic on Arena right now and I have no idea how and maybe that is why it's a dead format
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Yes, people want play and talk about pioneer. 
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Sickening posted:Eh, no vial and no cavern of souls is a big deal. As far as the tribal decks go its probably the most viable I can see atm. Caleb Durward was having a lot of success with a go-wide goblins strategy that comboed Embercleave w/ Piledriver or Rabblemaster, or just ended the game with Torbran. https://twitter.com/CalebDMTG/status/1186926621925806080 
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Apparently you can play Historic on Arena right now and I have no idea how and maybe that is why it's a dead format Yeah I just went to look for it and it doesn't even show up as a format option? Maybe there's a toggle somewhere for it but I'll be hosed if I can find it. Niton posted:Caleb Durward was having a lot of success with a go-wide goblins strategy that comboed Embercleave w/ Piledriver or Rabblemaster, or just ended the game with Torbran. This looks sickkkkkk. Seems like it would fold pretty hard to Witch's Vengeance though?
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I think historic's low popularity on goldfish is a combination of not really knowing where the format is going yet (they may or may not be adding 20 or so cards to the format, right?), and the kind of people who play on Arena not having any reason to interact with the website. It's not like you have to worry about the price trends of cards on Arena, and while that's not all the site's about anymore, it's still a major part of it. I'm not surprised that Pioneer is getting more interest, though. I think there's a huge demand in paper for a format that's bigger than standard, but cheaper than modern. That demand has grown a lot since people tried to create Frontier, as modern prices have been increasing steadily, and Pioneer has actual WotC support from the start, unlike Frontier which was very transparently a dealer cash grab attempt. No one wants to "invest" in a format that might not even get off the ground. Ate My Balls Redux posted:Apparently you can play Historic on Arena right now and I have no idea how and maybe that is why it's a dead format I thought you couldn't until November?
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Niton posted:Caleb Durward was having a lot of success with a go-wide goblins strategy that comboed Embercleave w/ Piledriver or Rabblemaster, or just ended the game with Torbran. I saw the goblin deck and i immediately sleeved it up in paper. Its sitting on my desk at home as we speak.
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evilweasel posted:if there were magic words you could say to destroy a promissory estoppel claim, then the claim as a practical matter would not exist Hm, fair enough! Ate My Balls Redux posted:Not to mention that the very promise they made was because of the secondary market. I feel dumb now. Thanks for the clarification folks! ShadeofBlue posted:
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ShadeofBlue posted:I thought you couldn't until November? nah, you just make a deck with your rotated cards and queue up with it in play mode like you would with a standard deck
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You can only play it against random people in unranked BO1, though you can direct challenge people with it. Nexus is also still banned in it in BO1, not that that's indicated anywhere at all unless you try to actually make a deck with it/queue with it.
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Rogue 7 posted:Cheers, thanks! Hell yeah bw tokens buddy. I've met 1 person who plays it in person, and even they are on more of a bw superfriends with tokens to protect more than a full on tokens build. Goven how easy it is to get energy and how impossible it is to interact with energy counters aetherworks marvel seems incredibly busted. Dig with azcanta/opt/other cards then aetherworks and you can see like 10 cards for very little mana. ilmucche fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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rabidsquid posted:for those of you who keep track of the general community, can you tell me if people are legitimately excited to play pioneer, or a shitload of people are hoping to go mtg finance? i guess the in between of 'get to play a format and not be priced out of it' but i guess my primary question is ignoring price points does the format actually excite people I'll be playing it because I have infinite tickets on MTGO and can play fast enough to avoid timing out with various ridiculous combo decks, but if I were playing in paper I would be pissed that WotC deliberately sabotaged Modern in order to direct people into this new format.
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