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A big flaming stink posted:why aren't the goblin lists playing krenko? sure his tokens aren't hasty but being able to poo poo out 2-6 goblins per turn has to be worth something, right? He'd might see play, but he's got stiff competition and his upside compared to those two is slower. Edit: Krenko's tokens aren't attacking, either. Tibalt fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Oct 23, 2019 |
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Oct 23, 2019 22:16
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Mat Cauthon posted:Seems like it would fold pretty hard to Witch's Vengeance though? Tribal aggro in a nutshell.  Count Bleck posted:I think WotC is actively trying to make sure Merfolk is never a deck again in any format. M13 is also the last set to have Rancor. 
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Oct 23, 2019 22:23
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Seeing Kenji win games with a slightly modified version of the M19 Mono Blue Outcome deck makes me happy. I loved playing that deck.
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Oct 23, 2019 22:30
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Legit upset at how historic is being handled and honestly feel outright lied to, I just don’t know what I was thinking.
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Oct 23, 2019 22:53
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Koirhor posted:Legit upset at how historic is being handled and honestly feel outright lied to, I just don’t know what I was thinking. Isn’t historic exactly what they said it was going to be? A format to play with your arena cards that have rotated? What did they lie about?
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Oct 23, 2019 22:57
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I would have expected a bit more out of Wizards in terms of formats that let you use your old cards like Pauper. Even Brawl is standard only lol. But basically Historic is completely sidelined in the system, I don't think they could have done a better job of getting people to avoid the format if they'd tried.
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Oct 23, 2019 23:16
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I think people were expecting an actual format, and not just a fig-leaf "you can technically use your old cards, in games that don't matter for anything at all".
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Oct 23, 2019 23:22
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Yeah people clearly expected a real (if marginal) format and Wizards is treating it like a meme format somewhere between Momir and Block Constructed.
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Trip report - Jeskai Ascendancy in Pioneer feels good and much more powerful than what I'm playing against, though I'm probably 20 to 30 cards off the optimal build. There's a chance a Rally deck is better positioned, though of course such a deck would have to compete with Grafdigger's Cage, Rest in Peace and Tormod's Crypt being in the format.
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Oct 23, 2019 23:27
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Hellsau posted:Trip report - Jeskai Ascendancy in Pioneer feels good and much more powerful than what I'm playing against, though I'm probably 20 to 30 cards off the optimal build. There's a chance a Rally deck is better positioned, though of course such a deck would have to compete with Grafdigger's Cage, Rest in Peace and Tormod's Crypt being in the format. Care to share your list, or a link to it?
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Oct 23, 2019 23:35
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Trip report, a Bogle-less hexproof deck still makes people unreasonably angry in Pioneer.
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Oct 23, 2019 23:52
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another loser posted:Trip report, a Bogle-less hexproof deck still makes people unreasonably angry in Pioneer. 
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Oct 24, 2019 00:06
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Big Bogles is my go-to whenever they do a Pauper event on arena. I think my standbys have rotated though. Looks like next time it's Wardscale Crocodile an Humongulus.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:06
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Give *clap* Paradise *clap* Druid *clap* vigilance
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Oct 24, 2019 00:20
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another loser posted:Trip report, a Bogle-less hexproof deck still makes people unreasonably angry in Pioneer. Gladecover Scout is still legal, right? So you get one set of bogles.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:24
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On the topic of early pioneer decks, Gabriel Nassif is playing a UW deck with a few planeswalkers in it. edit: Appears to be 3-1 so far, with only losing to Jeskai Copy Cat apparently.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:24
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ungulateman posted:Gladecover Scout is still legal, right? So you get one set of bogles. Ya and so is Ethereal Armor. It's a bit clunky, but Gladecover Scout, into Bassara Tower Archer and Witchstalker. Aqueous Form + Curious Obsession is fun.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:38
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to put it in much simpler terms, the entire concept of historic was floated by wizards as a way to appease people about their concerns about what happens to the resources they've invested once they rotate, so wizards said "a ha we have a solution don't worry at all!" except their solution isn't supported. so they've basically completely misled people about what happens to their collections once standard rotates and have no interest in addressing it again. they've successfully navigated away from a genuine concern about the MTGA economy as well as support of any eternal formats and all they've done is gone 'lol'
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Oct 24, 2019 00:43
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Has there been anyone testing mono blue devotion yet? Legit hoping it's good, I love blue tempo decks.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:46
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another loser posted:Trip report, a Bogle-less hexproof deck still makes people unreasonably angry in Pioneer. List please.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:50
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Owlbear Camus posted:Big Bogles is my go-to whenever they do a Pauper event on arena. I'm glad that All That Glitters is an uncommon. Pauper boggles was annoying to deal with.
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Oct 24, 2019 00:53
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Framboise posted:Has there been anyone testing mono blue devotion yet? Legit hoping it's good, I love blue tempo decks. Gaby Spartz went 4-1 with it on stream earlier, I wasn't watching so I didn't see the list but I can try to grab a vod screencap. e: 
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Oct 24, 2019 01:01
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Tubgoat posted:Not gonna lie, I allowed myself to believe Pioneer could've been fun. But then I was made aware that the entirety of Spirits is legal minus a couple of the lands. It’s extremely weird how scared you are of this tier 2 modern deck lmao
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Oct 24, 2019 01:04
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Mezzanon posted:It’s extremely weird how scared you are of this tier 2 modern deck lmao 
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Oct 24, 2019 01:06
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Niton posted:Gaby Spartz went 4-1 with it on stream earlier, I wasn't watching so I didn't see the list but I can try to grab a vod screencap. Sweeeeeeeet. 
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Oct 24, 2019 01:07
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rabidsquid posted:to put it in much simpler terms, the entire concept of historic was floated by wizards as a way to appease people about their concerns about what happens to the resources they've invested once they rotate, so wizards said "a ha we have a solution don't worry at all!" except their solution isn't supported. so they've basically completely misled people about what happens to their collections once standard rotates and have no interest in addressing it again. they've successfully navigated away from a genuine concern about the MTGA economy as well as support of any eternal formats and all they've done is gone 'lol' They announced ranked queues are coming in December. What else are you looking for?
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Oct 24, 2019 01:07
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rabidsquid posted:for those of you who keep track of the general community, can you tell me if people are legitimately excited to play pioneer, or a shitload of people are hoping to go mtg finance? i guess the in between of 'get to play a format and not be priced out of it' but i guess my primary question is ignoring price points does the format actually excite people I had a buddy of mine who mostly does finance get hard for playing this format yesterday. I also had multiple other people I know start brewing decks immediately. It's cheaper modern that more people have the cards for, so I can imagine it's going to be at least somewhat popular. The only reason there aren't local events right now is that nobody has all the stuff for their decks together yet.
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Oct 24, 2019 01:09
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Sickening posted:List please. Really janky starting point https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2413018#paper
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MikeCrotch posted:Give *clap* Paradise *clap* Druid *clap* vigilance There are surprisingly few good auras that do that in Pioneer.
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rabidsquid posted:to put it in much simpler terms, the entire concept of historic was floated by wizards as a way to appease people about their concerns about what happens to the resources they've invested once they rotate, so wizards said "a ha we have a solution don't worry at all!" except their solution isn't supported. so they've basically completely misled people about what happens to their collections once standard rotates and have no interest in addressing it again. they've successfully navigated away from a genuine concern about the MTGA economy as well as support of any eternal formats and all they've done is gone 'lol' Didn't they say before rotation that November was the "official" launch of Historic, and that was when they were going to add the robust support?
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Didn't they say before rotation that November was the "official" launch of Historic, and that was when they were going to add the robust support? They are going to run the first event in November then in December they will turn on the ranked queue.
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Oct 24, 2019 01:29
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Niton posted:Gaby Spartz went 4-1 with it on stream earlier, I wasn't watching so I didn't see the list but I can try to grab a vod screencap. 62 cards?
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Oct 24, 2019 01:43
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Framboise posted:Sweeeeeeeet. Wild that there’s no master of waves. Feels like that’s the better 4 drop
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Tainen posted:They are going to run the first event in November then in December they will turn on the ranked queue. Yeah, like.. as someone with a real good M19/Ixalan/Dom collection, this is a fine timeline to me Edit: I still think if Pioneer is at all successful, they will backfill those sets and change Historic to Pioneer on Arena. Ate My Balls Redux fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 01:47
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Tubgoat posted:It's weird how anyone ever lost to Splinter Twin on the scale that required banning it from modern pre-T3feri but welp! When splinter twin was legal I played bogles with 3x suppression field in the main and almost never lost to splinter twin.
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Oct 24, 2019 01:53
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Fabled Passage took quite a price jump since Monday. Depending on how the popularity of Pioneer holds it might not come very far back down? Tracking close to T3feri right now near $18. Related: https://twitter.com/TolarianCollege/status/1187134408836276224
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Oct 24, 2019 01:54
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80s James Hetfield posted:62 cards? 62 and 13 in the board, I didn't realize she was mid-boarding.
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Niton posted:62 and 13 in the board, I didn't realize she was mid-boarding. I was wondering why there was a maindeck Aether Gust.
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Tubgoat posted:It's weird how anyone ever lost to Splinter Twin on the scale that required banning it from modern pre-T3feri but welp! Is this your Signal the Rats? Your sword and shield of choice for shitposting?
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