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So work with me here. Jean is being weird. Charles is and has always been a dick. Charles is not an omega telepath but Jean is. Charles contacts Jean very early in life, pretty close to when her X-gene manifests. Charles would, in theory, need access to omega level telepathy to be able to constantly be running backups for all the mutants ever. Is it possible Charles in his dickishness essentially coopted most of Jean's powers to run this scheme, in a manner similar to sealing off part of her powers in the past/other media?
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Dreqqus posted:So work with me here. Jean is being weird. Charles is and has always been a dick. Charles is not an omega telepath but Jean is. Charles contacts Jean very early in life, pretty close to when her X-gene manifests. Charles would, in theory, need access to omega level telepathy to be able to constantly be running backups for all the mutants ever. Is it possible Charles in his dickishness essentially coopted most of Jean's powers to run this scheme, in a manner similar to sealing off part of her powers in the past/other media? This certainly sounds plausible. If this was before he was wearing Cerebro as a hat*, Jean might had to have been "managed" in a way that other telepaths, whom he met later, did not have to so that she didn't know their whole plan. Jean being weaker in space might therefore be due to the distance from Charles, who has siphoned her powers but lends her them back on Earth missions, potentially. This would explain why Jean is still so important to the X-Men so as to be on the council, despite having a lesser showing on the one mission that we saw her on so far. *Which could have happened off-panel between stories etc. Or Xavier has been wearing the helmet and altering everyone's - including ours - perceptions the whole time. 
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Oct 21, 2019 18:32
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Good interview about new Wolverine book https://twitter.com/Newsarama/status/1186326641250844673?s=20
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Skwirl posted:Good interview about new Wolverine book Gonna be honest, my reaction to reading that interview was "so, it's a wolverine solo book"
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Oct 22, 2019 01:47
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The mention of X-23 and family (including the Summers) was the only thing that stood out to me, mostly because I'm a huge X-23 fan. Would be surprised if it's not just an issue, or arc if we're lucky, though.
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Oct 22, 2019 10:47
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I’m now assuming that every x-man has like 3 separate houses and what we saw was wolverine’s summer house (heh)
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I thought about Warlock and he's not even human and isnt coming back is he?  wait is he even still dead
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Synthbuttrange posted:I thought about Warlock and he's not even human and isnt coming back is he? He is combined with Doug
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Oct 23, 2019 06:08
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But not combined like they were at Doug's funeral. Yeesh, that was a bleak issue.
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Mauraders is off to a decent start but I'm not sold on the character lineup other than Also, isn't it kinda wrong to have a pirate x-men story and not have Nightcrawler? Dude's probably pissed that he wasn't invited.
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Laughing Zealot posted:Mauraders is off to a decent start but I'm not sold on the character lineup other than Yeah, Kate & Lockheed are a lot of fun but the rest seem to be making up the numbers in the early going (Bishop obviously has an investigation going on at least). I hope there's a lot of Emma Frost, but Duggan is clearly having a whale of a time - especially that "Top Men" exchange with Kate and Bobby - and the premise is really strong so I hope the others grow into it. Fantastic art from Lolli, and it was really entertaining to read so hopefully Pyro's resurrection feelings and the rumour about the 2 choices before Kate provides meat for stories.
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I realize I'm at least 10 years out of date but I hate that Bishop is an active X-Man after the Hope stuff.
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Oct 23, 2019 15:35
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Really liked Storm and Weird little bit of foreshadowing in Emma, at the start of the issue, saying that Kitty never kicked someone in the ribs while they were down just because they deserved it, and then she goes and does exactly that by the end. I wonder if that has any deeper meaning than "Kitty is a little grittier now"?
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Oct 23, 2019 16:16
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I do hope though that the comic actually rolls with them hanging out on a boat, as in, it takes time getting around. The way this issue handled it they might as well have teleported.
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Not knowing much beyond the cast, I expected this to be a series I dropped after a couple issues. After this I'm definitely into it. Also hoping for more boat travel scenes. One thing I miss from the Claremont stuff is all the downtime scenes with characters in normal clothing just bopping about. Maybe more downtime stuff will scratch that itch. I agree I'm not sold on the full cast yet, seems like a sort of random assortment but I'll wait to see how they're written to interact. Side note: have we seen colossus yet? I was wondering where he was at and couldn't remember if he'd shown up in hox/pox or the dawn stuff.
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Kingtheninja posted:Side note: have we seen colossus yet? I was wondering where he was at and couldn't remember if he'd shown up in hox/pox or the dawn stuff. He briefly appeared at the very beginning planting a krakoa seed I think. Not much else.
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Marauders was great. I knew Duggan wouldn't disappoint me. Pyro could very likely become my favorite X-Man very soon which is bizarre. Sure, the team composition is currently "people who were within grabbing distance of each other when this plot happened" but hey that worked out great for X-Men: Red so why not here. And I know Iceman's living on an island and he's in fact had uniforms in the past that were literally just underwear, but does he even have a wardrobe at this point? Is he just walking around everywhere like...that?
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I also thought Iceman WAS ice, the scene of him covering himself in snow kinda threw me off
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BrianWilly posted:
When every day on the island is "party Gras" or whatever, he probably fits right in.
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I like the fight choreography for Kitty vs. the soldiers, although phasing a gun into two of them is one of the more borderline-lethal moves she's ever pulled.
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I have to wonder though. In House of X they refused to bring a portal plant thingy on their suicide mission because humans might, like, take it and discover stuff about it. But then...apparently there are Krakaon portals just standing about friggin' everywhere, right in the middle of busy human cities, right in the middle of strongly anti-mutant access points. How's that supposed to work? Why wouldn't the humans just study those as well? Sandwolf posted:I also thought Iceman WAS ice, the scene of him covering himself in snow kinda threw me off
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Wanderer posted:I like the fight choreography for Kitty vs. the soldiers, although phasing a gun into two of them is one of the more borderline-lethal moves she's ever pulled. That did raise an eyebrow. The only time I can remember her phasing stuff into people or vice versa was, like, taking on the Hulk.
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There was a weird reference to "North Valnon" as a country ruled by a kleptocratic family, which is weird, because North Korea has definitely appeared in other books and there are scenes set in both Russia and Taiwan here. Has Marvel been treading lightly around NK recently or something? I'm reading a lot fewer comics than I used to.
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part of me feels like that entire fight scene was Gerry Duggan's response to every time there's a fight scene involving Kate Pryde people always ask "Well why doesn't she just x" and his response is "okay here's her doing all of the things people keep saying she should do"
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Rochallor posted:There was a weird reference to "North Valnon" as a country ruled by a kleptocratic family, which is weird, because North Korea has definitely appeared in other books and there are scenes set in both Russia and Taiwan here. Has Marvel been treading lightly around NK recently or something? I'm reading a lot fewer comics than I used to. Duggan created Valnon a few years ago when he was writing Hulk. Edit: Actually it seems to go back at least a few more years to Deadpool.
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Rochallor posted:There was a weird reference to "North Valnon" as a country ruled by a kleptocratic family, which is weird, because North Korea has definitely appeared in other books and there are scenes set in both Russia and Taiwan here. Has Marvel been treading lightly around NK recently or something? I'm reading a lot fewer comics than I used to. If you have a random racist supersoldier and some mercenaries get beat up, it's fine to just call it "Russia" or "North Korea" or whatever real country. If you're going to do a whole plotline where the leader of a country is giving supervillain monologues and entering into a devil's bargain with [supervillain] and trying to invade other countries or whatever, that's when you go with Fake Country. That's presumably why they used Transia instead of I dunno, Turkmenistan for the X-Force series last year, and (I'm guessing) that's why Duggan is using North Valnon side by side with Russia. I was wrong about this, there are some throwaway references to it being the same place online but it's repeatedly identified as North Korea in the Deadpool comics, unless they retcon it when they reference it at the end of the run. Edge & Christian fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Edge & Christian posted:A lot of times this is done if they're going to go deep into creating characters for the ruling party. That was the exact storyline I was thinking of re. North Korea, but I guess I had forgotten they didn't use the actual NK for that. Thanks, my bad.
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Unless they changed it later, I remember that was specifically North Korea in Deadpool. There's a scene where Logan knows exactly where he is after taking a couple of sniffs of the air, somehow.
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Yeah, everyone seems to remember it as North Korea. One of those Mandela things I guess.
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Rochallor posted:There was a weird reference to "North Valnon" as a country ruled by a kleptocratic family, which is weird, because North Korea has definitely appeared in other books and there are scenes set in both Russia and Taiwan here. Has Marvel been treading lightly around NK recently or something? I'm reading a lot fewer comics than I used to. They've been making a move to not refer to tiny communist countries by their actual names, because of China, which is hilarious because China isn't actually a communist country any more.
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Aphrodite posted:Yeah, everyone seems to remember it as North Korea. One of those Mandela things I guess. No, it's actually North Korea. https://www.comixology.com/Deadpool-2012-2015-17/digital-comic/47467 Look at the second preview page. I remember trying to figure out what it would be about North Korea in particular that Logan could smell. I suppose it's less incendiary to use North Korea as a villain when there's a pretty close to zero percent chance that anyone in North Korea will ever read the comic.
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Best part is that's it's naming Taiwan as a proper country instead of Chinese Taipei or whatever bullshit name people have to call it to kowtow to loving China.
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Also they just introduced a whole allegorical war for the Vietnam conflict that shifts in time with the story so they could make sure Frank Castle was always going to be like 35 and so that they could retcon Reed's reason for the FF mission to the US military for some stupid loving reason.
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danbanana posted:Also they just introduced a whole allegorical war for the Vietnam conflict that shifts in time with the story so they could make sure Frank Castle was always going to be like 35 and so that they could retcon Reed's reason for the FF mission to the US military for some stupid loving reason. I feel like that's going to end up filed in the same basket as Byrne's Spider-Man: Chapter One in the long run, just because it's easier to do the "Frank Castle fought in the [sudden outbreak of very fake coughing] War" dodge than to bother with a whole new historical era.
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Wanderer posted:I feel like that's going to end up filed in the same basket as Byrne's Spider-Man: Chapter One in the long run, just because it's easier to do the "Frank Castle fought in the [sudden outbreak of very fake coughing] War" dodge than to bother with a whole new historical era. The whole fake southeast Asian War thing is... problematic. I get the desire to specify this poo poo and the sliding time seems like a good solution until you do a little racism. The better solution is to perpetually set the years the stories take place in between 1977 and 1987 and just keep culture and tech moving forward while you reset the year every once in a while.
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Did you know about Tony Stark's grandkid? He's the Iron Man of the distant year, far in the future, 2020.
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danbanana posted:The whole fake southeast Asian War thing is... problematic. Just move the war to Afghanistan, someone who was 18 when we first invaded would be in their mid 30s now and we're still sending teenagers over there to die. If you need war time trauma and a sliding timescale our forever war in the middle east is loving perfect.
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Oct 24, 2019 01:52
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So is Logan's super senses a secondary mutation or just part of his primary mutation?
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Skwirl posted:Just move the war to Afghanistan, someone who was 18 when we first invaded would be in their mid 30s now and we're still sending teenagers over there to die. If you need war time trauma and a sliding timescale our forever war in the middle east is loving perfect. This is the obvious solution, yeah. Iraq's even better. It's not like we're ever going to run out of wars to plop him into. Magneto's history with the Holocaust is a more pressing problem, but he's been de-aged multiple times and magnets something something slow the aging process.
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