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PantsBandit
Oct 26, 2007

it is both a monkey and a boombox
I love that this game side-steps the minefield of playing as a cop by having the main character be someone who is an absolutely blank slate not only for opinions but for actual concepts and ideologies. He has to have someone explain "money" to him for gods sake.

It lets him go around being super hype about being a police officer because everyone can tell that his concept of what a police officer is is completely separate from reality, as are his opinions on literally everything.

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Zikan
Feb 29, 2004


god drat this review literally has spoilers for half of the game

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT LUMBER

Hwurmp posted:

It's just northwest of Cuno's hideout.

yeah i found it but the guy was home, and when i checked the task log it said "forfeited", presumably because i'd put it off for too long

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006

Zikan posted:

god drat this review literally has spoilers for half of the game

True. My bad.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Is it possible to keep everyone alive at the tribunal?

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

There has to be a way to get into this building without brute forcing an impossible shivers check, right? You know what I mean.

oscarthewilde
May 16, 2012


I would often go there
To the tiny church there
http://nl.riotpixels.com/games/disco-elysium/artworks/page-1/
while googling for a way to make van eyck's the hardest core i stumbled upon this site with a lot of official (concept) art including beautiful hi-res versions of the skills' portraits and some -seemingly- cut content. seems like you could've used esprit de corps to actually see what your colleagues are doing instead of just feeling it.



also, where exactly is thast mysterious perfect bass-heavy tape? i felt something about a tape stuck in a tree, but have had no luck finding it so far.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

oscarthewilde posted:

http://nl.riotpixels.com/games/disco-elysium/artworks/page-1/
while googling for a way to make van eyck's the hardest core i stumbled upon this site with a lot of official (concept) art including beautiful hi-res versions of the skills' portraits and some -seemingly- cut content. seems like you could've used esprit de corps to actually see what your colleagues are doing instead of just feeling it.



also, where exactly is thast mysterious perfect bass-heavy tape? i felt something about a tape stuck in a tree, but have had no luck finding it so far.

the tree behind (to the east of) the shady clothing salesman to the south is festooned with the tape you need

Einwand
Nov 3, 2012

You idiot.
In this world it's pet or BE pet.

You know I've had a thought about that bugged door for Evrart, did anyone else change their mind for it and accept the quest through the main branch's shortcut option instead of accepting it immediately after he suggests it? I'm wondering if that might just not set the quest triggers right or something.

Also for anyone curious I've managed to find the tape for Egg Head, I had to talk to Siileng first, and then he pointed me to a tree nearby which was not to the left like I assumed it meant by "west" but in that little useless area behind his shop.

Megazver
Jan 13, 2006
Some madlad uploaded a savegame with all skills maxed out to 12 at the start of the game:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/dm1zla/experimental_save_lvl_1_max_skills/

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Kaedric posted:

The reason people whine about idpol is because folks will blindly vote for someone simply because they share characteristics with the voter. See: supposed progressives voting for Hillary because she was a woman, and ignoring her policies.

See also Pete Buttigieg just because he's lgbtq+, even though he would actively harm that constituency.

I understand that the term 'identity politics' doesn't literally mean what I've said above (as the inventor of the term has clarified), but rather that is what it has *come* to mean, at least online. So, just want to make that clear to you, when you see someone saying idpol is bad, it is not because no one wants to hear trans experiences.

I am going to desperately regret talking about this, but hey, this game is CSPAM as hell so may as well lean into it a little bit.


this is your only contribution to this thread

Mauser
Dec 16, 2003

How did I even get here, son?!
Guillaume and million do not rhyme and I am pronouncing it correctly, thank you. :colbert:

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Mauser posted:

Guillaume and million do not rhyme and I am pronouncing it correctly, thank you. :colbert:

graad relativist swine

frajaq
Jan 30, 2009

#acolyte GM of 2014


Megazver posted:

Some madlad uploaded a savegame with all skills maxed out to 12 at the start of the game:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DiscoElysium/comments/dm1zla/experimental_save_lvl_1_max_skills/

hmm this is useful to catalogue all the passive skill checks of the game :spergin:

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

fortress accident/church lady quest:

so i've got the freezer defrosting, but i've waited a whole day and the check is still the same difficulty. will this actually unfreeze with time, or do i need to do something else? (my physical instrument skill is trash)

pedro0930
Oct 15, 2012
Ended up finding out Harry was an ex-gym teacher with a physique of....1. Guess I put way too many points into Shiver.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

dmboogie posted:

fortress accident/church lady quest:

so i've got the freezer defrosting, but i've waited a whole day and the check is still the same difficulty. will this actually unfreeze with time, or do i need to do something else? (my physical instrument skill is trash)

Make sure you're holding the new tool she gave you. It gives you a huge bonus.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Begemot posted:

Make sure you're holding the new tool she gave you. It gives you a huge bonus.

not big enough for my noodle arms :v:

Kaedric
Sep 5, 2000

The Saddest Rhino posted:

this is your only contribution to this thread

In response to a post in the thread yes. That's usually how these things work.

Isaacs Alter Ego
Sep 18, 2007


Turtlicious posted:

What is your favorite line

Ruby are... you... A Lady Liker...?

I really liked one at the every end, in one of the last conversations you can have. I am an absolute GIANT communist, and the way the game reacted to it with this line in such a kind way was really meaningful to me on a weirdly personal level.

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



Finally finished. So there's no magic explanation for the amnesia bender? I was still waiting for something to explain what was so special about that night, but I guess it's just alcoholism.

Cannot wait for part 2 where we fight the second Revacholian Civil War and figure out how to stop the Pale!


Game good.

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Phenotype posted:

Finally finished. So there's no magic explanation for the amnesia bender? I was still waiting for something to explain what was so special about that night, but I guess it's just alcoholism.

Cannot wait for part 2 where we fight the second Revacholian Civil War and figure out how to stop the Pale!


Game good.

I think the game says that it could have been the anomaly in the church, but I personally think it was just alcohol plus Harry really wanting to forget. Some sort of biofeedback type deal.
The human brain is mysterious

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

okay. i am completely, totally at a loss for what to do. I'm on day 5.

can't finish the church sidequest, because the white check is locked. can't re-open the white check because i haven't found anywhere to get experience. can't find ruby, failed the mural check, can't find any more points of interest on the coast i haven't already touched. my journal is barren - aside from like five quests related to progressing with the church.

i love this game but when you're pulling a blank goddamn does it feel bad

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



DeadFatDuckFat posted:

I think the game says that it could have been the anomaly in the church, but I personally think it was just alcohol plus Harry really wanting to forget. Some sort of biofeedback type deal.
The human brain is mysterious


Yeah, there were a couple dialogue options to link it with the anomaly at the end, but there's no real evidence that one has anything to do with the other. I had been expecting a firmer answer on that, since just about every other lingering mystery is cleared up by the end.

Roman Reigns
Aug 23, 2007

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

I think the game says that it could have been the anomaly in the church, but I personally think it was just alcohol plus Harry really wanting to forget. Some sort of biofeedback type deal.
The human brain is mysterious


It's also hinted at that he was having a mental break way before his girlfriend left him due to the rigors of police work.


dmboogie posted:

okay. i am completely, totally at a loss for what to do. I'm on day 5.

can't finish the church sidequest, because the white check is locked. can't re-open the white check because i haven't found anywhere to get experience. can't find ruby, failed the mural check, can't find any more points of interest on the coast i haven't already touched. my journal is barren - aside from like five quests related to progressing with the church.

i love this game but when you're pulling a blank goddamn does it feel bad

Do you have clothing that gives you a bonus for that check? If you wear it will unlock it. Just make sure you save before hand just in case.

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Roman Reigns posted:

Do you have clothing that gives you a bonus for that check? If you wear it will unlock it. Just make sure you save before hand just in case.

oh dang, i haven't messed around much with clothing so i didn't realize this. tyvm!

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Roman Reigns posted:

It's also hinted at that he was having a mental break way before his girlfriend left him due to the rigors of police work.

It is interesting that your reptilian brain hints in first dream sequence that it is Harry's wife when in fact it is his gf

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

I think the game says that it could have been the anomaly in the church, but I personally think it was just alcohol plus Harry really wanting to forget. Some sort of biofeedback type deal.
The human brain is mysterious


in my ending harry's partners said it was the third time he'd dissolved his brain with substance abuse, this time was just the most spectacular

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Oxxidation posted:

in my ending harry's partners said it was the third time he'd dissolved his brain with substance abuse, this time was just the most spectacular

Harry has done it several times and each time he comes out solving the case like a crazed genius, which is one of the reasons they still keep him despite him obviously being a huge liability.

if you get Klassje to tell you what happened the night you passed out, she says you blasted The Smallest Church and screamed and drank a lot, and there's a specific period of time she "left". I've always wondered what that was about, but it leaves a window open that Harry may have been hit by / intentionally hit himself with the Pale which blanked out his knowledge of everything.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010
Personally I think that the memory loss was planned and intentional, and that his previous breakdowns were test runs for the big one. Exactly why Harry intentionally wiped his memory I'm not sure, not because there's no obvious reason, but because there's many obvious reasons for him to want to do it and it could have been any one of them.

That doesn't necessarily rule out the reality hole having something to do with it; indeed, it may have been what finally allowed it to work and really blank his memory.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Jack2142 posted:

IRT Klassje

I thought at the end that Klassje might very well have been a special agent for Oranje, who got burned after loving up a mission probably because she was burning out like Superstar Cop Harry from drug abuse. She seems to be a bit too good at manipulating people to just be some ~analyst~ who did industrial espionage + fake documents etc. Or she was on a mission to infiltrate the debardiers union through the Hardie Boys for the Coalition and they were getting pissed at the lack of progress. After all its not like the FBI never tried to infiltrate and break up socialist unions in the past, it seems par for the course of the moralintern to try to quash a socialist movement asap.

Both Harry with jacked out stats and Kim intuit she's a spook. Although it does seem she's now on the run - there's just no purpose in what she was doing and her connection to the merc's death is too random - so at least part of her story is true. She wouldn't be a bad character to play as in another game.

Control Volume
Dec 31, 2008

The pale is both an omnipresent and deleterious force, and also a metaphor for mundane problems (alcoholism, civil unrest, failed business ventures) being blamed on superstitious beliefs

Even the bug that explains all this isnt the bug talking, its you talking to your imagination pretending to be the bug

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Control Volume posted:

The pale is both an omnipresent and deleterious force, and also a metaphor for mundane problems (alcoholism, civil unrest, failed business ventures) being blamed on superstitious beliefs

Even the bug that explains all this isnt the bug talking, its you talking to your imagination pretending to be the bug

No, that's wrong the bug speaks to you just through a psychic connection tyvm.

Parallelwoody
Apr 10, 2008


Is there a way to only edit the amount of thought cabinet slots available and not touch stats? Assume I know nothing about unity engine.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


I gotta say one thing for a very underrated skill by us: Esprit-de-Corps doesn't necessarily relate to police, but in some rare occasions (like dealing with the union) it flares up to say "yes, these men are willing to die for it" in awesome ways and, of course, the stories.

There was a random check in a conversation to see what people think of Harry, and amidst the disaster, the captain tells everybody to shut the gently caress up and if they are not going to help one of their own, they better go back to whatever the gently caress they are doing - that was simply just :unsmith:

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Espirit-de-Corps is very helpful for letting you know what Kim is planning and helping you work together, too.

VolticSurge
Jul 23, 2013

Just your friendly neighborhood photobomb raptor.



So, advanced the case a bit and now I'm in a bit of a bind- how am I supposed to get anything out of Titus with the not-Gardener right there? Confronting him about the drug thing goes nowhere as well. Any advice?

dmboogie
Oct 4, 2013

Roman Reigns posted:

Do you have clothing that gives you a bonus for that check? If you wear it will unlock it. Just make sure you save before hand just in case.

update: this is incredibly not true

pedro0930
Oct 15, 2012

VolticSurge posted:

So, advanced the case a bit and now I'm in a bit of a bind- how am I supposed to get anything out of Titus with the not-Gardener right there? Confronting him about the drug thing goes nowhere as well. Any advice?


After you pass the relevant checks Lizz will leave in a huff.
As for the drug case, first actually make sure you accepted the quest (check the task tab), the quest doesn't get accepted until you agree. You are suppose to investigate this case by talking to the lorry drivers. Once you have the quest new dialogue option should be opened when talking to the lorry drivers.

pedro0930 fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Oct 24, 2019

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Roman Reigns
Aug 23, 2007

dmboogie posted:

update: this is incredibly not true

That you don't have clothing or the bonus doesn't unlock it? I'm like 80% sure it does

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