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I passed the Authority check with Titus and she didn't leave. Unless I have to talk to her?
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Roman Reigns posted:That you don't have clothing or the bonus doesn't unlock it? I'm like 80% sure it does put on the physical instrument clothing i had, went to the ice cream machine, it wasn't unlocked. went to cuno, bought the FALN pants that gives physical instrument, went vack to the machine, it wasn't unlocked.
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Oct 24, 2019 05:37
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Turtlicious posted:No, that's wrong the bug speaks to you just through a psychic connection tyvm. Youre just using the same externalization used for the tie conversations. Its actually Harry who is psychic, as evidenced by the tie predicting the future and the shivers dialogue seeing distant places. QED, fucker
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Oct 24, 2019 05:39
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dmboogie posted:put on the physical instrument clothing i had, went to the ice cream machine, it wasn't unlocked. went to cuno, bought the FALN pants that gives physical instrument, went vack to the machine, it wasn't unlocked. You've got the super prybar equipped?
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Oct 24, 2019 05:40
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Roman Reigns posted:You've got the super prybar equipped? the multi-tool you get from the church lady? yep, the check doesn't even show up without it.
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Oct 24, 2019 05:41
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Ffffffuck I'm at a loss then. Sorry  I'm guessing reloading an earlier save isn't an option?
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Oct 24, 2019 05:43
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Roman Reigns posted:Ffffffuck I'm at a loss then. Sorry S'all good man. I unfortunately don't have a convenient save, but I just need to find a way to get 3 more experience points and I'll be able to put another point into physical instrument and put all this behind me lmao edit: it feels like i've been wandering aimlessly for like an hour but i have, in fact, scrounged up enough XP to finally level up. if I had known there was no way to circumvent this I woulda save-scummed this check in the first place, jeez dmboogie fucked around with this message at 05:48 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 05:45
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the game does its best at emulating that tabletop RPG feel but it is ultimately a computer game and whenever you exhaust its limited set of responses you can occasionally end up frustratingly stonewalled at a place where a human GM would be smart enough to realize you're stumped and present some kind of alternate path for you actually, is there a tabletop version of this rules system out yet?
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Oct 24, 2019 05:53
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Mister Bates posted:the game does its best at emulating that tabletop RPG feel but it is ultimately a computer game and whenever you exhaust its limited set of responses you can occasionally end up frustratingly stonewalled at a place where a human GM would be smart enough to realize you're stumped and present some kind of alternate path for you Aren't all the skill checks just a target number vs. 2D6 and modifiers? Edit: and autofail/success on snake eyes/boxcars Cactrot fucked around with this message at 06:02 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 06:00
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its funny, maybe a int/psy build gets stuck less or maybe i got lucky with rolls but ive always had a pile of skillpoints that i dont need to use that i started throwing into shivers and half-light just for more dialogue
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Oct 24, 2019 06:01
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dmboogie posted:S'all good man. I unfortunately don't have a convenient save, but I just need to find a way to get 3 more experience points and I'll be able to put another point into physical instrument and put all this behind me lmao I think books give some experience too if you need yet another level. That and the day 2 softlock are pretty big issues with the game tho, there should be a "bad" ending path that opens up if the game detects youve exhausted all quest-related white skill checks.
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Oct 24, 2019 06:04
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Half-Light seemed like one of the more useless skills. You actually get to use it, like, one time. The rest is "oh you better be keyed up man, something's going down" but it doesn't actually do the reaction check, that's Reaction Speed or something.
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Oct 24, 2019 06:04
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My secret has just been to hold onto a skill point or two in reserve consistently through the game for white checks I've felt important.  (And letting the chips fall where they may/not savescumming on red checks.)
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Oct 24, 2019 06:14
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The end of the game also probably shouldnt have been locked behind a single skill check I M O. The game really would have been better off doing a red skill check (or maybe two) for the FALN building with a similar point-of-no-return warning, since its such a bizarre chokepoint. Locking off sidequests make sense, but not the main quest.
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Oct 24, 2019 06:15
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Control Volume posted:The end of the game also probably shouldnt have been locked behind a single skill check I M O. The game really would have been better off doing a red skill check (or maybe two) for the FALN building with a similar point-of-no-return warning, since its such a bizarre chokepoint. Locking off sidequests make sense, but not the main quest. i agree that this is one of the strangest and least reactive part of the game. i know they want to railroad the ending sequence of ruby - tribunal - wake up - island - debrief but they could have added one other way instead of just shivers looking at a poster to get under the boardwalk
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Oct 24, 2019 06:25
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I feel like this game would benefit if there was no way to manually save (with more frequent auto-saves) and also dialogue options would just disappear instead of getting greyed out. It would make the decisions feel that more final. I know that you can just, you know, not do it but it's psychological. This would require for the game not to break down and not have a couple of unwinnable situations though (like having not enough money at the end of day 2).
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Oct 24, 2019 06:30
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The Saddest Rhino posted:i agree that this is one of the strangest and least reactive part of the game. i know they want to railroad the ending sequence of ruby - tribunal - wake up - island - debrief but they could have added one other way instead of just shivers looking at a poster to get under the boardwalk They could have just scattered some evidence around the fishing village and coast and then had a couple different possible checks to piece it together
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Oct 24, 2019 06:33
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The Saddest Rhino posted:i agree that this is one of the strangest and least reactive part of the game. i know they want to railroad the ending sequence of ruby - tribunal - wake up - island - debrief but they could have added one other way instead of just shivers looking at a poster to get under the boardwalk wait what? i used savoir faire, if i remember correctly - it was a physical skill to climb the rickety ladder on the side of the poster next to the chatty man and his child, and then i entered the feld building from the roof there was a great little bit there: harry: i'm going to teleport up this scary rear end ladder. i'm just going to warp up there, to the roof, like a boss kim: no you're not. shut up. that's not possible harry: *teleports* look at me now, kim kim: you just climbed up with your eyes closed, dumbass Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 06:46
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luxury handset posted:wait what? i used savoir faire, if i remember correctly - it was a physical skill to climb the rickety ladder on the side of the poster next to the chatty man and his child, and then i entered the feld building from the roof wait wow, i never got the option to do the ladder. you sure you never had to shivers-check the poster first? that was the big thing stopping me from progressing and i actually had to check the discord to find out
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Oct 24, 2019 06:56
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i did it five seconds ago and you absolutely have to pass the shivers poster check before you can even interact with the ladder.
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Oct 24, 2019 07:05
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I think the only way to do it is pretty much exhausting everything you can do in all of Martinaise. There's a ton of things that you can do to raise the shivers check on that but almost all of them are side-investigations.
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Oct 24, 2019 07:13
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It doesn't matter because plot progression should not be locked behind a single check that you can lock yourself out of regardless. It's one of the few really glaring design flaws of the game.
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Oct 24, 2019 07:57
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Hwurmp posted:Is it possible to keep everyone alive at the tribunal? No. Even if you do everything right and pass all checks, your thigh is gonna get shot, you'll pass out and some of Titus' guys will die. That's why you can't get sick armor pants!
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Oct 24, 2019 08:12
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Anyway, absolutely a blast to do a second/third playthrough where you cheat up your own stats to bask in the batshit array of options you have at your disposal. Highly rec. At my ending Kim acknowledged how my character somehow manages to balance being an ultralib with being a commie, which was fun. Kim -- is a cool professional dude, but what with speedfreaks.fm or whatever and sincerely considering taking amphetamines, seems to be on a dangerous precipice of changing coptypes.
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Oct 24, 2019 08:21
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Is there any downside to not looking in the mirror? I... think I prefer the initial character portrait. 
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Oct 24, 2019 08:35
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SplitSoul posted:Is there any downside to not looking in the mirror? I... think I prefer the initial character portrait. If you never look, you dont get two optional secret tasks
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Oct 24, 2019 08:36
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Synthbuttrange posted:If you never look, you dont get two optional secret tasks poo poo. Thanks anyway.
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Oct 24, 2019 09:01
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With respect to That Check, repeating checks is a core part of the game and you should absolutely not try it only once.
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Oct 24, 2019 09:02
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If there's any advice for new players, always keep a few skill points handy,
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Oct 24, 2019 09:04
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That brings up one of the things I don't like about the skill system. The fact that levelling up skills unlocks failed white checks (combined with the fact that your ability to level up your skills is a finite resource) actually incentivises you not to increase your skills for as long as possible, because if you pump them when you get points then you're decreasing the number of attempts you can make at future white checks.
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Oct 24, 2019 10:04
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Agent355 posted:Has anybody expliclty pointed out how good the voice acting is and how brilliant it is to give nearly EVERY NPC a voice but only for a few lines at the beginning? Yeah this was a great descision. A voice sets the tone for a character in an instant, text can be interpretated a million different ways.
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Oct 24, 2019 10:42
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Control Volume posted:The pale is both an omnipresent and deleterious force, and also a metaphor for mundane problems (alcoholism, civil unrest, failed business ventures) being blamed on superstitious beliefs Beat the game just now, really was fantastic and did I pretty well for being a sorry cop. I might at least replay the save I had right before the tribunal to try and prevent Kim from getting shot so he could still be with me for the rest of the game. I was fine with Cuno though because it gave a nice end to his arc.
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Oct 24, 2019 10:53
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I know the thread has slightly moved on but its not like this game doesn't have any political themes. While yes, most people complaining about idpol are cishet yts, many evocations of identity aren't used in the empowering intersectional way say the Combahee River Collective originally meant it. Instead it can be used as a cudgel to erase minority leftists and ghettoize our concerns to only be about "our" issues. If you want to hear it from an academic poc I highly recommend Adoph Reed jr. Particularly his book 'Class Notes'
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Oct 24, 2019 10:58
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I'm on day 2 and seem at a bit of a loose end unless I want to do a dodgy job for the union guy/joyce which I don't really want to do. Is this uncommon and I should read the case files to pass the time or do I suck it up instead of investigating for the gun/badge? Where can I get a map too lol
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Oct 24, 2019 11:15
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Jose posted:Where can I get a map too lol The bookstore.
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Oct 24, 2019 11:16
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Jose posted:I'm on day 2 and seem at a bit of a loose end unless I want to do a dodgy job for the union guy/joyce which I don't really want to do. Is this uncommon and I should read the case files to pass the time or do I suck it up instead of investigating for the gun/badge? You have probably missed a big quest like the bookstore or the various apartment quests if you have run out of things to do in only two days. Or you've cheated time backwards.
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Oct 24, 2019 11:20
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Jose posted:I'm on day 2 and seem at a bit of a loose end unless I want to do a dodgy job for the union guy/joyce which I don't really want to do. Is this uncommon and I should read the case files to pass the time or do I suck it up instead of investigating for the gun/badge? the dodgy jobs are pretty major and you can do stuff to mitigate their dodgyness beat the game, and goddamn. the ending was a bit more low-key than i was expecting, but it was still nice  . was there a check to make to explain the old deserter's neurological poo poo, or was the phasmid really the explanation there?had my regrets - ruby killed herself and the hardy boys got completely massacred, but kim liked me (20+ points) and i was able to invite him to join my precinct, so all's well that'll live on in harry's nightmares. i was kinda hoping there'd be an ending slide equivalent beyond your talk with your old partner, but that'd be a lot of variables so it's all good tbh dmboogie fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Oct 24, 2019 |
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Oct 24, 2019 11:23
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Urthor posted:You have probably missed a big quest like the bookstore or the various apartment quests if you have run out of things to do in only two days. Or you've cheated time backwards. well i hosed up some checks and am waiting until 9pm for the apartments dmboogie posted:the dodgy jobs are pretty major and you can do stuff to mitigate their dodgyness unavoidably major?
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Oct 24, 2019 11:27
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Jose posted:unavoidably major? i mean, do you want to get your gun back
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You can finish the game without doing them, though it might put you at a major disadvantage. There's You can also do them in a way that fucks up Clair's plans tho.
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