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Starks
Sep 24, 2006

friendbot2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1187198298811187201

Holy poo poo this is hot take. "If people dont have to work as much they will be happy and not slaves to capital! The horror!"


Edit: I can't get past the paywall, but its the WSJ so I am guessing I am hitting the mark here

This is actually a great example of a twitter headline completely misrepresenting the article. The only negative thing it mentions is that the clients need a little time to adjust and that people need to occasionally stay past 1.

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DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever


God its so easy to shoot holes in his dumb argument.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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ELO Musk posted:

Yeah I can see that line of argument coming up but what greedy capitalist wants to admit that they're paying people for hours where they aren't productive? It's proven that people are more productive when they're happier and extending time to them to live their lives would go a long way towards that.

Lol if we put any stock in right-wingers/captains of industry paying attention to "studies".

Buncha commie liberal eggheads telling us our sons wanting to be girls is okay.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




...is he Drunk/Adderol posting now? Between these and the (Kiddingly) it's starting to make sense

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

Starks posted:

This is actually a great example of a twitter headline completely misrepresenting the article. The only negative thing it mentions is that the clients need a little time to adjust and that people need to occasionally stay past 1.

Ah, okay, when it comes to the WSJ I usually assume the worst and I refuse to pay for a subscription to that rag.

In funnier news, Jeff Bezos visited some schools today and the students were not impressed lol

https://twitter.com/OhEmmeG/status/1187035303468515329

The kid int eh black hoodie asking who Jeff Bezos is and upon being told gives a gesture of solidly not giving a gently caress is what makes this video lol

friendbot2000 fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Oct 24, 2019

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

ELO Musk posted:

Yeah I can see that line of argument coming up but what greedy capitalist wants to admit that they're paying people for hours where they aren't productive? It's proven that people are more productive when they're happier and extending time to them to live their lives would go a long way towards that.

i can't recall where i saw it, but i thought i saw a study relatively recently that showed 40 hours seemed to be the actual best workweek productivity-wise. basically, as people work more per week their productivity per hour goes down, but obviously there is a point where working less hours decreases your "output" more than increasing your efficiency for the remaining hours can make up for), and that seemed to show a maximum total worker productivity around 40 hours. i.e. you work 35 hours, you'll probably produce less per week; but if you work 45 hours you probably will also produce less per week.

but the obvious question is, what's the cause and effect - did we wind up at a default of 40 hours because through trial and error that's turned out to be best, or is it that because 40 hours is the 'default' that sets expectations around what makes you happy and what you have, over time, been trained to optimize for as a worker?

CHEF!!!
Feb 22, 2001

TulliusCicero posted:

...is he Drunk/Adderol posting now? Between these and the (Kiddingly) it's starting to make sense


Adderall or something else, I could imagine. With how many inside sources routinely talk to the news, if he had a bottle of rot gut whiskey or Uncle Vlad brand vodka in his desk, we would constantly hear about it and he would constantly say he doesn't drink.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



evilweasel posted:

This says they're going to "take it public" in mid-november: i.e. they'll be finished with depositions and start getting people to testify publicly. Not that they'll hold a vote to impeach immediately.

by mid-november we'll know about like half a dozen new major crimes that also have to be investigated as well

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017




One of these people saw the absolute horror and actually had a change of heart. Good on them

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Oct 24, 2019

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

eke out posted:

by mid-november we'll know about like half a dozen new major crimes that also have to be investigated as well

i am somewhat torn between the "investigate it all, then dump a billion charges on the senate" and what seems to be the current strategy of get this one serious crime fully investigated and drop that single crime on the senate (and the public), but i think I come down on agreeing with the current strategy: if the senate (and public) is willing to look the other way on the ukraine crime, where there's just no loving defense, additional crimes aren't going to move the needle. additional time to let republicans get their footing and come up with a strategy and try to browbeat romney back into line, on the other hand, might - as will putting more and more stuff in the indictment, letting republicans pick whichever crime they feel most comfortable defending and focus solely on that as their basis to aquit/the only thing they'll talk about.

all in all, it's an indictment of our political system that's the correct calculation, but i think it's the right one given the circumstances: the democrats have the advantage here and need to exploit it in a timely manner.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

evilweasel posted:

i am somewhat torn between the "investigate it all, then dump a billion charges on the senate" and what seems to be the current strategy of get this one serious crime fully investigated and drop that single crime on the senate (and the public), but i think I come down on agreeing with the current strategy: if the senate (and public) is willing to look the other way on the ukraine crime, where there's just no loving defense, additional crimes aren't going to move the needle. additional time to let republicans get their footing and come up with a strategy and try to browbeat romney back into line, on the other hand, might - as will putting more and more stuff in the indictment, letting republicans pick whichever crime they feel most comfortable defending and focus solely on that as their basis to aquit/the only thing they'll talk about.

all in all, it's an indictment of our political system that's the correct calculation, but i think it's the right one given the circumstances: the democrats have the advantage here and need to exploit it in a timely manner.

The russia stuff got bogged down in a lot of minutia and arcane stuff, yea, it's probably best to focus on this one crime where there's apparently just buckets of proof for

pkay
Jan 4, 2005
"You and your ilk just made me vote downticket R in the midterms."
- a black man (- a magachud)

DandyLion posted:

God its so easy to shoot holes in his dumb argument.

Probably shouldn't say that....

Hobo Clown
Oct 16, 2012

Here it is, Baby.
Your killer track.




ShuckyDucky posted:

A Qanon "researcher/true believer's" hot take on Rep. Matt Gaetz's heroic stand yesterday:

https://twitter.com/prayingmedic/status/1187200821215186944

Did this guy just completely forget that Gaetz purchased CHEESE PIZZA?

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Whatever happened with yesterday’s deposition? What did we learn?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Pollyanna posted:

Whatever happened with yesterday’s deposition? What did we learn?

I believe the witness was someone who was testifying about the mechanics and legality of holding up the Ukranian military aid, and the main testimony was "there is no legal way to do it that doesn't involve notifying congress". Wasn't a blockbuster, but wasn't expected to be either.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

evilweasel posted:

I believe the witness was someone who was testifying about the mechanics and legality of holding up the Ukranian military aid, and the main testimony was "there is no legal way to do it that doesn't involve notifying congress". Wasn't a blockbuster, but wasn't expected to be either.

This. She basically confirmed that Trump took NONE of the legal routes to do this.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

here is graham's ~big reveal~ today

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1187368530582347778

the white house is already saying it's not good enough for them to stop hating on lindsey

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1187374947993300992

evilweasel fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Oct 24, 2019

syntaxrigger
Jul 7, 2011

Actually you owe me 6! But who's countin?

FizFashizzle posted:

It's impossible to even fully comprehend the dimensions Donald Trump is playing chess in

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1187202379017420801?s=20

Dimensions within dimensions


Notice me senpai...

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Pollyanna posted:

Whatever happened with yesterday’s deposition? What did we learn?
Officially nothing, but reporters sussed out that the Pentagon liaison testified that there is basically two legal ways to delay the Ukraine aid, bot h require notifying Congress, and neither were used.

Someone with sufficient pull ordered the aid to be held up and did so illegally. There is probably a paper trail.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



evilweasel posted:

here is graham's ~big reveal~ today

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1187368530582347778

the white house is already saying it's not good enough for them to stop hating on lindsey

Can a democrat just publish a bunch of articles that show the GOP did clearly closed hearings all the time and this argument is completely full of poo poo?

This pathetic "talking point" is so tiring

TulliusCicero fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 24, 2019

CyberPingu
Sep 15, 2013


If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

syntaxrigger posted:

Notice me senpai...

So hes saying that the GOP are the Persians trying to invade Sparta

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

evilweasel posted:

here is graham's ~big reveal~ today

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1187368530582347778

the white house is already saying it's not good enough for them to stop hating on lindsey

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1187374947993300992
I thought this was them condemning Gaetz’s GOPizza Party, but reality quickly set in.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

TulliusCicero posted:

Can a democrat just publish a bunch of articles that show the GOP did clearly ou sed hearings all the time and this argument is completely full of poo poo?

This pathetic "talking point" is so tiring

everyone knows graham is full of poo poo, even the reporters, and nobody cares about his nonsense. all of the whining about "closed door" hearings is going to backfire hard once they hold the open hearings.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Tibalt posted:

Officially nothing, but reporters sussed out that the Pentagon liaison testified that there is basically two legal ways to delay the Ukraine aid, bot h require notifying Congress, and neither were used.

Someone with sufficient pull ordered the aid to be held up and did so illegally. There is probably a paper trail.

we also learned that State isn't the only department whose career employees are ignoring white house attempts to stop them from testifying, which is a good sign

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







I almost posted this morning that the Katie Hill nonsense was to create cover to go after Gaetz, but didn't because it was just me connecting dots.

Now....

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1187338202266460165?s=20

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
ROFL Rasmussen has Trump down to 43% approval rating. That’s umm, not good.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

lol even loyal fuehertrooper mark meadows is throwing a little bit of shade at trump suggesting that if he's upset perhaps he shouldn't have hosed that chicken so hard that he lost the house

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1187379052010708993

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

TulliusCicero posted:

Can a democrat just publish a bunch of articles that show the GOP did clearly closed hearings all the time and this argument is completely full of poo poo?

This pathetic "talking point" is so tiring

no one actually gives a poo poo. It literally only is working for the Fox News crowd and they'd stay with Trump even if a video of him raping and murdering a child came out so who gives a gently caress about them

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



FizFashizzle posted:

I almost posted this morning that the Katie Hill nonsense was to create cover to go after Gaetz, but didn't because it was just me connecting dots.

Now....

https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1187338202266460165?s=20

:thunk:

What?

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

i, uh

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1187378958083481600

well that's not super

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1187022153599897601

This sixth grader was resisting arrest. A loving sixth grader. What do cops do when a toddler fails to peekaboo? They must live in so much fear...

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

friendbot2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1187022153599897601

This sixth grader was resisting arrest. A loving sixth grader. What do cops do when a toddler fails to peekaboo? They must live in so much fear...

Also he did that because “she took too many milks”, which is totally an okay reason for slamming an 11 year old into concrete.

predicto
Jul 22, 2004

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

FizFashizzle posted:

It's impossible to even fully comprehend the dimensions Donald Trump is playing chess in

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1187202379017420801?s=20

Dimensions within dimensions

FYI this guy does not actually believe this. He has been angling to replace Bolton, and he knows that sucking Trumps dick on Fox is the best possible audition for the job. Google him.

Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007




Is this resolution even going to pass the Senate? I could see a bunch of vulnerable senators along with people like Romney voting against this.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

downtowns definitely exist so this is not ideal

Also, that's loving horrifying if that summary is even remotely accurate.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

evilweasel posted:

here is graham's ~big reveal~ today

https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/1187368530582347778

the white house is already saying it's not good enough for them to stop hating on lindsey

https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1187374947993300992
What do they expect him to do.

You'd think they'd be bashing McConnell the most for saying there will be a trial

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Shimrra Jamaane posted:

ROFL Rasmussen has Trump down to 43% approval rating. That’s umm, not good.

Wait, from 50?

Tuff Scrote
Apr 23, 2004

I agree with my concern about a too broad impeachment inquiry, but there is some low hanging fruit here with emoluments clause violations and his tax returns that will keep the GOP on his toes and Trump in a Twitter fury. We already see how much Trump digs his own grave at the absolute worst moments. Keeping up the heat with issues that voters understand is a good strategy, IMO.

Rincewinds
Jul 30, 2014

MEAT IS MEAT

What if they remove the CEO bonuses?

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Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Mind_Taker posted:

Is this resolution even going to pass the Senate? I could see a bunch of vulnerable senators along with people like Romney voting against this.

McConnell says there will be a trial, so 4 GOP senators at the minimum must have insisted on it. So it would seem that it wouldn't.

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