|
Leather, guzzoline
haveblue fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 24, 2019 |
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:48
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 04:15 |
|
|
showbiz_liz posted:In college a friend and I took a class with an anthropology professor who specialized in systems theory. The class was essentially about catastrophes, and we spent a lot of time talking about climate change (which he had been studying and ringing the alarm bells about for 40 years). Did you guys cover the Bronze Age Collapse? poo poo can go belly up really, really fast.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:49
|
|
|
mdemone posted:Why do you say Firtash is failing to avoid being extradited? Well, the previous plan of BSing the Austrian judge with laughable nonsense about Ukrainian politics didn't hold up on appeal, but the new strategy of paying off Rudy may indeed work. P.S. the preferred form of address for him isn't "Ukrainian oligarch", it's"the representative of Russian mafia in Ukraine".
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:49
|
|
|
A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Condoms and tampons. Maybe to sell in the immediate aftermath, but cervical caps and menstrual cups would be much more useful long-term.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:50
|
|
|
showbiz_liz posted:In college a friend and I took a class with an anthropology professor who specialized in systems theory. The class was essentially about catastrophes, and we spent a lot of time talking about climate change (which he had been studying and ringing the alarm bells about for 40 years). Yeah, what this person is talking about is systems collapse. quote:General systems collapse theory, pioneered by Joseph Tainter, hypothesises how social declines in response to complexity may lead to a collapse resulting in simpler forms of society. ... In complex societies that were increasingly fragile and less resilient, the combination of factors may have contributed to the collapse. The basic gist is that our society is complex and if one thing breaks down and can't be fixed, or can't be fixed fast enough, it triggers other collapses, which trigger more and more. The original premise behind Mad Max was that a gas crisis triggered a societal collapse in Australia. Later it became a lot more post-apocalyptic, but the original movie was just about that collapse from lack of gas.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:51
|
|
|
I hope my personal library gives whatever wanderer a cool several hundred worth of science/etc points for their stats.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:52
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/John_Hudson/status/1187400498879574019
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:53
|
|
|
someone's arranging a cell at leavenworth
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:54
|
|
|
axeil posted:The FDIC is also financed by the banks themselves paying premiums as an ongoing requirement of being allowed to do business and have an absolutely absurd amount of cash on hand that they're required to have by law. They're also very good at minimizing their losses during crises. Also, if FDIC/NCUA go completely bust... the fed can and almost certainly would print money to cover the difference. That could cause a big inflation hit, of course, but you wouldn't be left destitute. If you chose to bury a strap of hundreds to "be safe against collapse," on the other hand, those would get hit just as badly.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:54
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/1187409572262305793 VAGOP keeps crashing the S.S. Shitbird against the Cliffs of Danica, I am sure you will get a win sometime.....annnny day now...
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 18:54
|
|
|
hahaha this is an insanely good troll
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:00
|
|
|
Dapper_Swindler posted:i do love that russian state TV looks like some weird dystopian poo poo from an 80s movie. For some reason I want to say Running Man but it’s not quite there
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:06
|
|
|
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1187429702929133570
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:07
|
|
|
Why are so many republicans human toes. Jesus, look at Gaetz.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:09
|
|
|
ELO Musk posted:I mean, if the workweek were shortened, you don't think it would be better? 3 day weekends every week is a lot more life to live and I would love the hell out of it. My current job we get three day weekends. Course we work ten hour days. But I can tell you every weekend is like a mini vacation. The attitude of our shift vastly improved too. It's like people had more time to enjoy or something
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:09
|
|
|
Prester Jane posted:Hey remember not too long ago when this thread was shiting on anyone who was trying to warn that the next economic collapse was going to be massive because none of those 2008 era problems had actually been solved? FuturePastNow posted:Sure, bring on the Second Great Depression. Why not. Holy poo poo there is literally nothing in that article about insolvency of the banks or the financial system. It's talking about the relative competitive position of the investment banking sector versus newer tech heavy financial startups, and how the banks lack of innovation is leaving them in a bad competitive position if things go lean because of a downturn. Investment banks being "innovative" with ways to make profit was literally what gave us the 2008 crisis, if anything this article is consistent with the financial sector being far more stable than in 2008. This article is about how some rich people aren't making as much money from nothing as other rich people are.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:11
|
|
|
Zapf Dingbat posted:Why are so many republicans human toes. Jesus, look at Gaetz. It's because they're always in contact with the boot.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:13
|
|
|
Party Plane Jones posted:https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1187422170525380613 Well, guess I'm gonna go out and get a job with NASA as an engineer. Sure I'm not qualified, but hey, if this fucker can do it...
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:14
|
|
|
Tweet of the week imho
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:14
|
|
|
 https://twitter.com/OliviaMesser/status/1187391860165283842 https://twitter.com/tysonbrody/status/1187089955056689156 https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1187107305839570944 No more not yelling. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1187408464986943488
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:18
|
|
|
SocketWrench posted:Well, guess I'm gonna go out and get a job with NASA as an engineer. Sure I'm not qualified, but hey, if this fucker can do it... i went to school with a guy who didn't believe we landed on the moon but who then later worked for the x-33 program stuff like that Happens
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:20
|
|
|
Jarmak posted:Holy poo poo there is literally nothing in that article about insolvency of the banks or the financial system. You do not appear to be thinking on the level of a complex system or the problems caused when that system is intentionally destabilized by bad-faith actors so that they can profit (as happened in 2008). If the majority of banks globally are not financially viable/vulnerable to a simple economic downturn then the entire banking system is at risk. If non-banks are starting to choke out traditional banks that also represents a severe systemic risk- as non-banks are held to even lower standards than actual banks.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:25
|
|
|
No amount of prepping will actually prepare you for total societal collapse, so it's best to just not think about it lmao
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:29
|
|
|
Ice Phisherman posted:Yeah, what this person is talking about is systems collapse. He's a comedian, but since his forte in his later career was social commentary, I think a great demonstration of this that's accessible is the last half of George Carlin's bit "Extreme Human Behavior" from the special "Life Is Worth Losing." The beginning of it is quoted here to give you an idea. You want a single point of failure? quote:And this civilization of ours that we’re so proud of, this civilization with its so-called civilized behavior, you ever stop and realize how fragile all this is? How fragile the whole structure, how easily it can all just break right down, just break right down? It wouldn’t take much. It’ll probably happen in less than two years. It wouldn’t take much to throw us right back into barbaric times. All you’d have to do would be eliminate electricity. That’s all. But completely. Eliminate electricity. So, no electricity, no lights. You’re back to candles and lanterns. Campfires and bonfires. Batteries couldn’t be recharged. Generators couldn’t be refueled because fuel is pumped electrically. So is water, by the way. So no lights, no fuel, no water, no computers.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:29
|
|
|
Prester Jane posted:You do not appear to be thinking on the level of a complex system or the problems caused when that system is intentionally destabilized by bad-faith actors so that they can profit (as happened in 2008). If the majority of banks globally are not financially viable/vulnerable to a simple economic downturn then the entire banking system is at risk. You don't have the slightest idea what you're talking about, this has nothing to do with the viability of their investments or their solvency; that's not how any of this works. You're effectively reading an article describing how casual dining is seeing declining profits because of competition from fast casual and concluding we're all going to starve to death in the famine. edit: if there's any inference about the general stability of the financial sector from this article it's literally the exact opposite of what you're trying to say it is.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:31
|
|
|
People keep posting George Carlin in this thread and I keep thinking Dan Carlin and it's really messing me up.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:34
|
|
|
friendbot2000 posted:https://twitter.com/pwcdanica/status/1187409572262305793 Jesus loving christ that tweet is so lovely For anyone that didn't click through itvs basically "Danica called herself a mom. Is there a new definition for that word now too?"
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:36
|
|
|
oxsnard posted:No amount of prepping will actually prepare you for total societal collapse, so it's best to just not think about it lmao That's a bit like saying attempting to mitigate climate change won't completely eliminate climate change impacts, so you shouldn't try. Actions taken to prepare oneself for an emergency (say like getting basic emergency gear for a hurricane) does not eliminate the impacts of the emergency (having water bottles and batteries does not stop a hurricane), but it does lessen some of the damage and increase the chance for successfully surviving it (you are less likely to die of dehydration or dysentery). While no one can fully prepare for total societal collapse, people can take steps to lessen the impacts of disruptions of services and other outcomes of a more uncertain and unstable world. If a 1% better chance of surviving makes someone feel better, who are you to criticize them? No one says you have to do anything, but pardon some of us if we prefer not to stick our head in the sand.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:38
|
|
|
Griffen posted:That's a bit like saying attempting to mitigate climate change won't completely eliminate climate change impacts, so you shouldn't try. Actions taken to prepare oneself for an emergency (say like getting basic emergency gear for a hurricane) does not eliminate the impacts of the emergency (having water bottles and batteries does not stop a hurricane), but it does lessen some of the damage and increase the chance for successfully surviving it (you are less likely to die of dehydration or dysentery). While no one can fully prepare for total societal collapse, people can take steps to lessen the impacts of disruptions of services and other outcomes of a more uncertain and unstable world. If a 1% better chance of surviving makes someone feel better, who are you to criticize them? No one says you have to do anything, but pardon some of us if we prefer not to stick our head in the sand. Nah, not the same. We know the basic cause for climate change so we can do something about it, and that's where effort should be spent. Total societal collapse could happen suddenly and for a jillion possible reasons. If things fall apart those cases of water and iodine pills and bullets just delay the inevitable
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:42
|
|
|
Griffen posted:That's a bit like saying attempting to mitigate climate change won't completely eliminate climate change impacts, so you shouldn't try. Actions taken to prepare oneself for an emergency (say like getting basic emergency gear for a hurricane) does not eliminate the impacts of the emergency (having water bottles and batteries does not stop a hurricane), but it does lessen some of the damage and increase the chance for successfully surviving it (you are less likely to die of dehydration or dysentery). While no one can fully prepare for total societal collapse, people can take steps to lessen the impacts of disruptions of services and other outcomes of a more uncertain and unstable world. If a 1% better chance of surviving makes someone feel better, who are you to criticize them? No one says you have to do anything, but pardon some of us if we prefer not to stick our head in the sand. So, uhh, how many cans of soup go you have in your basement? God you lot are weird
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:42
|
|
|
Jarmak posted:
Ypur metaphor is missing a couple details: the casual dining corporations own all the farms and the fast casual dining corporations own their debt.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:43
|
|
|
oxsnard posted:Nah, not the same. We know the basic cause for climate change so we can do something about it, and that's where effort should be spent. Total societal collapse could happen suddenly and for a jillion possible reasons. If things fall apart those cases of water and iodine pills and bullets just delay the inevitable If things fall apart to that point though, a few more months/days/weeks can be precious.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:43
|
|
|
Stockpiling goods is a terrible strategy for preparing for long term crisis. Skills/knowledge and connections (to other people) is the only valid long term plan.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:44
|
|
|
Griffen posted:That's a bit like saying attempting to mitigate climate change won't completely eliminate climate change impacts, so you shouldn't try. Actions taken to prepare oneself for an emergency (say like getting basic emergency gear for a hurricane) does not eliminate the impacts of the emergency (having water bottles and batteries does not stop a hurricane), but it does lessen some of the damage and increase the chance for successfully surviving it (you are less likely to die of dehydration or dysentery). While no one can fully prepare for total societal collapse, people can take steps to lessen the impacts of disruptions of services and other outcomes of a more uncertain and unstable world. If a 1% better chance of surviving makes someone feel better, who are you to criticize them? No one says you have to do anything, but pardon some of us if we prefer not to stick our head in the sand. There is a vast difference between stockpiling supplies for a brief disruption and attempting to forestall the end of days by collecting water bottles.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:45
|
|
|
Griffen posted:That's a bit like saying attempting to mitigate climate change won't completely eliminate climate change impacts, so you shouldn't try. Actions taken to prepare oneself for an emergency (say like getting basic emergency gear for a hurricane) does not eliminate the impacts of the emergency (having water bottles and batteries does not stop a hurricane), but it does lessen some of the damage and increase the chance for successfully surviving it (you are less likely to die of dehydration or dysentery). While no one can fully prepare for total societal collapse, people can take steps to lessen the impacts of disruptions of services and other outcomes of a more uncertain and unstable world. If a 1% better chance of surviving makes someone feel better, who are you to criticize them? No one says you have to do anything, but pardon some of us if we prefer not to stick our head in the sand. Eh... we're not really comparing apples to apples here though. Being prepared to sustain yourself through a couple days to a week of disruption of regular services is multiple orders of magnitude more likely and more effective than preparing for a total collapse of society. I get the point you're making and why you're connecting those dots but you're kinda responding to a person saying it's dumb to have a full fledged surgical trauma unit in your basement by saying "no, actually a first aid kit is a very prudent thing to have on hand". I mean you're not wrong, but that's not really whats being referenced. Jarmak fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Oct 24, 2019 |
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:45
|
|
|
If society collapses I'm offing myself and everyone I care about. Y'all can have fun doing your live reenactment of The Road. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:45
|
|
|
VH4Ever posted:He's a comedian, but since his forte in his later career was social commentary, I think a great demonstration of this that's accessible is the last half of George Carlin's bit "Extreme Human Behavior" from the special "Life Is Worth Losing." The beginning of it is quoted here to give you an idea. You want a single point of failure? My town goes through this every year or so. We'll get a big storm through and lose power for a week. When I worked at the grocery store, when this would happen, people would flock in (the place had generators to keep it open) and buy just the dumbest poo poo. Frozen foods, perishables that need refrigeration, etc. There'd always be a line by the gas stations with people bitching about how they couldn't get gas. One of my sad forms of entertainment used to be laughing at the people lined up in the McDonald's drive thru on Thanksgiving waiting for service.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:45
|
|
|
Tammy Duckworth on CNN: "America has never been on the side of ethnic cleansing." This is why Trump works. Because the "good guys" have no actual argument.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:46
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 1, 2024 04:15 |
|
|
Mild "prepping" like some emergency supplies for a hurricane is vastly different than societal collapse prepping which is a weird hobby-cult that takes over your entire life until you're burying a school bus in your back yard and filling it to the brim with diapers and the brand of baked beans you found on reddit that has the longest shelf life.
|
|
#
?
Oct 24, 2019 19:47
|
|
