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ImpAtom
May 24, 2007


My understand is that if "you're in trouble for having a relationship with a staffer" becomes central stage, Matt Gaetz is turbofucked.

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terrorist ambulance
Nov 5, 2009
Gaetz is probably just a freak too and looking out for himself in the inevitable future disclosure. Or, he's just pushing it out to his chud fan base by tweeting unbidden about it repeatedly.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

friendbot2000 posted:

Oh most definitely. I just expected more ghouls to jump on this

they are trying to keep trump afloat right now.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



freeasinbeer posted:

Katie Hill should resign for having multiple relationships with staffers. She just also might have a really questionable tattoo that’s associated with Nazis and White Power.

The tattoo okay, (of that is even what it is)

Second off if Hill had consent and had a relationship with her staffer who gives a poo poo? Sounds like a dipshit angry ex-husband.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

not surprised about the other two but jesus gently caress gabbard. just run as an R you rear end in a top hat.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Dapper_Swindler posted:

my guess is he has done some weird/gross sex poo poo/cheated/etc that could come out at any time but unlike alot of the republicans he doesn't want to be a hipocrite about it because he believes he will survive it easier.

Investigative reporters found Gaetz has multiple(?) DUIs in his past that got smoothed over, god knows what else they didn't find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Gaetz#Drunk_driving_arrest_and_speeding_tickets

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

TulliusCicero posted:

The tattoo okay, (of that is even what it is)

Second off if Hill had consent and had a relationship with her staffer who gives a poo poo? Sounds like a dipshit angry ex-husband.

There are significant issues with the ability to consent in a relationship when an boss/employee relationship also exists

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

TulliusCicero posted:

The tattoo okay, (of that is even what it is)

Second off if Hill had consent and had a relationship with her staffer who gives a poo poo? Sounds like a dipshit angry ex-husband.

It's pretty crappy for anyone in a position of power to have a relationship with their staffers as it's very difficult for that to be both genuinely consensual and free of abuse due to the power dynamic involved. At very best you have to wonder if said staffer got a raise/perks/etc based off their sexual relationship, at worst it makes said staffer feel trapped because they lose their job if the relationship ends.

That said the Republicans only care because of who it is and they'll quietly look in the other direction when you mention the people with a R next to their name who've done worse.

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

Flesh Forge posted:

Investigative reporters found Gaetz has multiple DUIs in his past that got smoothed over, god knows what else they didn't find.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matt_Gaetz#Drunk_driving_arrest_and_speeding_tickets

His college roommate also died under suspicious circumstances and the investigation was closed under political pressure of some sort

oxsnard
Oct 8, 2003

ImpAtom posted:

It's pretty crappy for anyone in a position of power to have a relationship with their staffers as it's very difficult for that to be both genuinely consensual and free of abuse due to the power dynamic involved. At very best you have to wonder if said staffer got a raise/perks/etc based off their sexual relationship, at worst it makes said staffer feel trapped because they lose their job if the relationship ends.

That said the Republicans only care because of who it is and they'll quietly look in the other direction when you mention the people with a R next to their name who've done worse.

Yeah that's the thing that's hard to deal with. Like, in a vacuum, it's good that Al Franken stepped down after his creepy behavior became public. It just stings that only one side of the aisle can be successfully cowed into stepping aside when abhorrent behavior comes to light

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



ImpAtom posted:

It's pretty crappy for anyone in a position of power to have a relationship with their staffers as it's very difficult for that to be both genuinely consensual and free of abuse due to the power dynamic involved. At very best you have to wonder if said staffer got a raise/perks/etc based off their sexual relationship, at worst it makes said staffer feel trapped because they lose their job if the relationship ends.

That said the Republicans only care because of who it is and they'll quietly look in the other direction when you mention the people with a R next to their name who've done worse.

That's fair then. I can agree with that. I think it's pretty lovely for the ex-husband to do this though

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Dapper_Swindler posted:

not surprised about the other two but jesus gently caress gabbard. just run as an R you rear end in a top hat.

she's moved from Tucker to Hannity too - she should gently caress right off out of the election and focus on losing her seat in congress.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU

Ague Proof posted:

Gaetz dates his interns.

If that's true - and I'm not suggesting that it isn't - then the weirdest thing to me here is that would make him internally consistent on this point.

I didn't think that was a thing that Republicans, y'know, did.

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
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Dapper_Swindler posted:

my guess is he has done some weird/gross sex poo poo/cheated/etc that could come out at any time but unlike alot of the republicans he doesn't want to be a hipocrite about it because he believes he will survive it easier.

Possible answer to "what was the point of the SCIF stunt" and why he'd defend Katie:
Trump has Kompromat, and is demanding the people he has leverage on be more performative in their defense of him. In this (crazy) interpretation, Gaetz is both trying to minimize the damage he'd suffer if Trump - unhappy with his performance - drops dox, while also trying to satisfy Trump and avoid that dox dropping.

Real crazy interpretation: Epstein was an agent (for some undefined agency), and he deliberately sought embarassing kompromat on as many powerful people as he could, which is now (somehow) in the hands of Donald Trump (or his puppetmasters).

But this is entirely speculative.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

eke out posted:

she's moved from Tucker to Hannity too - she should gently caress right off out of the election and focus on losing her seat in congress.

i mean i know she is a right wing shithead but if she is kinda trying to run leftish of the mainstream libs, why go on fox.

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
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Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean i know she is a right wing shithead but if she is kinda trying to run leftish of the mainstream libs, why go on fox.

Same reason Greenwald does, I imagine.

Mystic Mongol
Jan 5, 2007

Your life's been thrown in disarray already--I wouldn't want you to feel pressured.


College Slice

tek79 posted:

What sort of diseases and/or complications arise when you only consume meat? Because I'm totally fine with Peterson fans all dying, or feeling really uncomfortable from them.

https://www.reddit.com/r/enoughpetersonspam/comments/8x1tgw/jordan_peterson_drinks_apple_cider_causing_him_to/

This is an amazing admission from a crazy, crazy man. Apparently drinking the wrong stuff on his diet drove him start raving mad for a month.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Dapper_Swindler posted:

i mean i know she is a right wing shithead but if she is kinda trying to run leftish of the mainstream libs, why go on fox.

Because she's a loving hack and a fake, and she might as well be Rand Paul lite?

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
It’s also against the house rules:

ethics.house.gov posted:


18. (a) A Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner may not engage in a sexual relationship with any employee of the House who works under the supervision of the Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner, or who is an employee of a committee on which the Member, Delegate, or Resident Commissioner serves. This paragraph does not apply with respect to any relationship between two people who are married to each other.

(b) A Member, Delegate, Resident Commissioner, officer, or employee of the House may not engage in unwelcome sexual advances or conduct towards another Member, Delegate, Resident Commissioner, officer, or employee of the House.
(c) In this clause, the term ‘employee’ includes an applicant for employment, a paid or unpaid intern (including an applicant for an internship), a detailee, and an individual participating in a fellowship program.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
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friendbot2000 posted:

I am....shocked....literally did not see this coming at all

tbf as far as poly setups go, that sounds like an unusually healthy one and her pissed off ex-husband seems like the real sketchy dude in it all

freeasinbeer posted:

It’s also against the house rules:

lol thank you concerned citizen who has literally never posted here before

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Dapper_Swindler posted:

not surprised about the other two but jesus gently caress gabbard. just run as an R you rear end in a top hat.

https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1187580834330660869?s=20

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Uglycat posted:

Same reason Greenwald does, I imagine.

i guess but i can at least get why greenwald does the poo poo he does or at least can see why people view him in a sympathetic light. and at least GG fights facists when they are NIMBY. but i dont get gabbard.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

weirdly not surprised. she knows she is hosed now.

freeasinbeer
Mar 26, 2015

by Fluffdaddy
Apparently Geatz was caught on the Instagram of was intern that was living with him. He should resign too. As well as for the scif bullshit.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i guess but i can at least get why greenwald does the poo poo he does or at least can see why people view him in a sympathetic light. and at least GG fights facists when they are NIMBY. but i dont get gabbard.

she sucks what else is there to get

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
Also gaetz is probably wading in because he knows that 'you can gently caress the interns and staffers' is like the only bipartisan belief in congress and no one in power there wants to open that can of worms.

Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
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Dapper_Swindler posted:

i guess but i can at least get why greenwald does the poo poo he does or at least can see why people view him in a sympathetic light. and at least GG fights facists when they are NIMBY. but i dont get gabbard.

Yeah, the reason clearly isn't any /overt/ political alignment.

e: had to do a google search, but turns out Gabbard is a stalwart Assange apologist. Huh.

Uglycat fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Oct 25, 2019

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>
At this point I'm just waiting for Katie Hill's ex husband to show up next to milo and Wohl for how much of a hack job this smear is.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Herstory Begins Now posted:

At this point I'm just waiting for Katie Hill's ex husband to show up next to milo and Wohl for how much of a hack job this smear is.

It's mostly Ryan Saavedra, who is pretty Wohl-tier in terms of hack

Doloen
Dec 18, 2004
Let me know when any of these fuckers call on Duncan Hunter to resign. The smart course of action for Hill would be to resign, but unless the campaign staffer comes forward and alleges abuse or retribution I straight up don't loving care.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
Gaetz does not want his love life to become public.

https://twitter.com/MEPFuller/status/1150798292177039360

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

TulliusCicero posted:

That's fair then. I can agree with that. I think it's pretty lovely for the ex-husband to do this though

It’s not just pretty lovely, revenge porn is pretty loving illegal.

Sanguinia
Jan 1, 2012

~Everybody wants to be a cat~
~Because a cat's the only cat~
~Who knows where its at~

Dapper_Swindler posted:

weirdly not surprised. she knows she is hosed now.

Yeah, I've been wondering why Tulsi suddenly became a loving Everything-Short-Of-Q-Anon Chud Grifter recently. I was starting to wonder if it was because she actually was some kind of psy-op out to scuttle the election like people claimed, but I guess she just wants to steal boomer and psycho dollars by playing Red-Pilled Ex-Liberal on the Crazy Circuit.

Zarin
Nov 11, 2008

I SEE YOU
Was Katie Hill supposed to be the one to carry on Cummings' committee? Or was that someone else.

Speaking of Cummings, will that seat sit vacant or is there a special election? And, beyond that, is an impeachment vote at risk now, or are they well above critical mass at this point?

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

Herstory Begins Now posted:

tbf as far as poly setups go, that sounds like an unusually healthy one and her pissed off ex-husband seems like the real sketchy dude in it all

If there's a real sketchy dude in the mix then it probably wasn't that healthy.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Zarin posted:

Was Katie Hill supposed to be the one to carry on Cummings' committee? Or was that someone else.

Speaking of Cummings, will that seat sit vacant or is there a special election? And, beyond that, is an impeachment vote at risk now, or are they well above critical mass at this point?

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) is currently the acting chair and has said she wants it permanently and a half dozen others are also clamoring for his old post. Her name is not among them.

Impeachment is a given at this point barring something akin to an alien invasion.

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

Oracle posted:

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) is currently the acting chair and has said she wants it permanently and a half dozen others are also clamoring for his old post. Her name is not among them.

Impeachment is a given at this point barring something akin to an alien invasion.

Ill take alien rule over this. You think they have healthcare?

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

friendbot2000 posted:

Ill take alien rule over this. You think they have healthcare?

According to their handbook, 'To Serve Man,' they have a lot of great things to offer us.

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Gaunab posted:

If there's a real sketchy dude in the mix then it probably wasn't that healthy.

By poly standards, only one sketchy dude around is healthier than average

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Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Oracle posted:

Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.) is currently the acting chair and has said she wants it permanently and a half dozen others are also clamoring for his old post. Her name is not among them.

Impeachment is a given at this point barring something akin to an alien invasion.

yeah the only question rn is does Trump get removed from office and about the fates of everyone else in Trump's orbit. Even removal is looking pretty realistic because avoiding that would require Trump to show like 5 different kinds of political and PR savvy that he has never previously shown even a passing capacity for

In reality, Trump isn't going to make ~perfect political plays~ he's going to keep on doing illegal poo poo and broadcasting it out to the world and sabotaging his own defense

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