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OwlFancier posted:I hate the word flextension. It’s not even a flextension. It’s always been the case that if the agreement gets ratified then the U.K. exits on those terms, which can be before the formal end date. In reality it’s an extension until January 31st, and it’s now up to Corbyn to respond effectively, and if he goes for ‘nope still not going to do it until Johnson totally definitely guarantees we’re not leaving without a deal’ then I think it’s really going to backfire unless he explains exactly what the problem is. If he tries to block and then it passes through a one one bill with simple majority, enjoy the ‘Labour were too scared to have this election’ election.
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OwlFancier posted:I hate the word flextension. You've always been at brexit with Europa
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Braggart posted:** I expect the Tories to be in favour of convention in this specific instance for some reason.
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OwlFancier posted:I hate the word flextension. 
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Pesmerga posted:It’s not even a flextension. It’s always been the case that if the agreement gets ratified then the U.K. exits on those terms, which can be before the formal end date. In reality it’s an extension until January 31st, and it’s now up to Corbyn to respond effectively, and if he goes for ‘nope still not going to do it until Johnson totally definitely guarantees we’re not leaving without a deal’ then I think it’s really going to backfire unless he explains exactly what the problem is. If he tries to block and then it passes through a one one bill with simple majority, enjoy the ‘Labour were too scared to have this election’ election. I do genuinely think the attempt is to just say things until after the 31st but I concur that I'm not sure it's especially helpful, though I'm wondering if it's perhaps because they're worried they actually don't have the numbers to win a VONC with the current polling (and don't want to be helped into an election by the tories for optical reasons or something)
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Housing seems strange to me as as far as I know, it's the only item that people buy with the expectation that the price will rise. Apart from Funkopops, and gently caress those people as well.
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Borrovan posted:Yeah I made a sarcy comment on this earlier on but just for clarity I do think the Tories would be happy with a Labour speaker atm, since never-Corbyn wreckers are ten a penny & if there's 2 things Tories love it's outsourcing & wrecking poo poo Yeah, there's certainly a majority in Parliament for loving with Corbyn (possibly the only thing there's a majority for at present). Still better than the frothingest Tory they can find.
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morning all. distressing lack of wildlife on this page the dunnock  the wren, named by someone having a bad day (Troglodytes Troglodytes)  the splendid fairy wren from australia 
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Tsietisin posted:Housing seems strange to me as as far as I know, it's the only item that people buy with the expectation that the price will rise. Shares, bonds, foreign currency, commodities like gold, oil etc. Though of course you are still correct because stock traders aren't people.
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OwlFancier posted:I hate the word flextension.  ronya posted:The movement is toward harm reduction - so neither detaining nor housing addicts, and relying on geography to keep the problem out of the hair of the middle class e: ^^ bit coin dot nonce
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CGI Stardust posted:the splendid fairy wren from australia Man, Australia gets so many gorgeous birds. Our native species look boring by comparison, apart from kingfishers I guess. I am not a bird nerd so I'm fully expecting to be corrected on this, and look forward to the pretty pictures with interest 
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mehall posted:The good news for everyone worrying about speaker choice is that it requires some nominations from both sides of the house, so anyone completely rabid can't really get in. Look into your heart and ask how many MPs in all parties would do absolutely anything to screw Jeremy Corbyn. But the situation is what it is, and I'm confident the Shadow Cabinet are skilled enough to make the best of it. Never-Corbyn Labour MPs are mostly stupid and bad at politics, as are Lib Dems and Tories. Edit: Can't forget TIG! Well actually you can and I just did. What was I talking about again? Braggart fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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It's also very hard to do public building programmes without having them subverted by construction companies and other vested interests who'll just take the public cash and build what they intended to build in the first place, particularly if you're aiming at fulfilling an election promise over a few years or w/e. The institutional competence and political dedication needs to be in place over time It can be done though. The million programme in sweden, though having numerous faults and unintended consequences, actually did manage to build a fuckload of homes. To this day we've arguably got almost no "social housing" that you'd recognize as such
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Tsietisin posted:Housing seems strange to me as as far as I know, it's the only item that people buy with the expectation that the price will rise. Oh god, do people think mass produced plastic shite Funkopops will go up in value? They are just reliving the 90s comics collectors bit but this time with total tat instead of Rob Liefield books with shiny covers? I just thought they were popular because there was a generation who'd gone blind and couldn't see how lazily identikit they all look.
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CGI Stardust posted:(Troglodytes Troglodytes) lmao
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It's also very hard to do public building programmes without having them subverted by construction companies and other vested interests Nationalise the building/construction industry Criminal charges and jail sentences for robbing the public purse, more white collar criminals in jail is something I endorse
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Braggart posted:Look into your heart and ask how many MPs in all parties would do absolutely anything to screw Jeremy Corbyn. 
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mehall posted:This is unfortunately what stops Skinner or someone like him getting the job. Love him or hate him, he's been very consistent on "I am paid to represent the people of Bolsover, that is my job, and none of this governance stuff" for going on 50 years. On of the first 'Corbyn bad' moments was when he turned down a cabinet position offered by Corbyn. But Corbyn knew that would happen anyway and was doing it more out of formality to the party left (and because there were very few people who weren't gunning against him at that time). Braggart posted:Man, Australia gets so many gorgeous birds. Our native species look boring by comparison, apart from kingfishers I guess. 
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forkboy84 posted:I just thought they were popular because there was a generation who'd gone blind and couldn't see how lazily identikit they all look. That was sort of the appeal though. People liked having a bunch of disperate characters from different media recreated in a uniform style. It triggers the collection hoarding part of the lizard brain.
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Guavanaut posted:Have a great spotted wood pecker. Yes please  But yes, that is a very pretty bird. My plan to be corrected with gorgeous wildlife photos is working!
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:It's also very hard to do public building programmes without having them subverted by construction companies and other vested interests who'll just take the public cash and build what they intended to build in the first place We do need to build a bunch too though, especially before the climate-induced mass migration kicks in
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forkboy84 posted:Oh god, do people think mass produced plastic shite Funkopops will go up in value? They are just reliving the 90s comics collectors bit but this time with total tat instead of Rob Liefield books with shiny covers? The box text definitely does imply they're collectable though, and they do look like the end stage of "collectable as commodity", and of course like anything trying to create itself as a collectable, there are 'rare' and 'special edition' and 'event linked' ones. quote:A commodity appears, at first sight, a very trivial thing, and easily understood. Its analysis shows that it is, in reality, a very queer thing, abounding in metaphysical subtleties and theological niceties. 
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Maybe that's his birthday. Boris Johnson is going to lose the election entirely on the back of people with tattoo regret.
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OwlFancier posted:Boris Johnson is going to lose the election entirely on the tummies of people with tattoo regret. E: Braggart posted:Ooh, I'm definitely part of the hard left now! https://gifsound.com/?gifv=5kfz7kn&v=izGwDsrQ1eQ Borrovan fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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I also love bidets. Of course I've never had one because poverty but I do like a properly cleaned arsehole!
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Borrovan posted:E: Oh be still my throbbing cock!
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forkboy84 posted:Nationalise the building/construction industry There wouldn't be any crimes involved really, or none that you could prove in any case. And attempting to nationalising the entire industry seems extremely likely to fail in any number of ways, it's not like the stakeholders there lack resources or political support. I dunno though, it's not like there's a good, working solution that everyone thinks will work and also happen. I will say I think you can get pretty far by just maximising the public intervention where it "harms" the real estate capital development the most, e.g by having a public entity with lots of cash and good eminent domain rules and no right-to-buy build enough quality stuff that the local parasites have to compete. The landlord/tenant dynamic is a lot less unhealthy when the tenant's got options to choose from
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Steve2911 posted:That was sort of the appeal though. People liked having a bunch of disperate characters from different media recreated in a uniform style. It triggers the collection hoarding part of the lizard brain. Seems like we need to do lobotomies for the Lizard brain because FunkoPops are perhaps the single part of late capitalism that enrages me the most. Collecting plastic toys, fine, I've failed to grow up too. But at least get toys thats don't look like they were all made in the same mold. It's like collecting Lego Star Wars people. Not the cool X-Wing, just little yellow guys with the same face and different costumes to represent Poe Dameron and Han Solo. I'd be less ashamed to collect RealDolls. He'll, I'd rather collect second hand RealDolls than FunkoPops.
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Braggart posted:Man, Australia gets so many gorgeous birds. Our native species look boring by comparison, apart from kingfishers I guess. the starling    and the magpie. they look a tad drab from the ground (ed: this one is insufficiently drab, have another one)   but...    and a bunch of others i'll post at some point CGI Stardust fucked around with this message at 11:53 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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Borrovan posted:This is part of the reason I said "creation" rather than "building" in my proposition. You can also "create" public housing by snapping up all the former private lets that the landlords voluntarily sell when we do all the tasty poo poo we were advocating yesterday, as well as compulsorily purchasing (at a newly-deflated cost) all the vacant properties held by speculative investors & miscellaneous rich cunts. Yea, like, resourceful public intervention in the housing market is definitely key, as long as that intervention is long-term and consciously counters market tendencies. Instead of starting off with "we're gonna take ur house", you can just annoy and pester and torture the accountants until they're like "please take my house" and then the free market can do the stuff it can do competently without public intervention such as providing crisp flavours
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Tijuana Bibliophile posted:There wouldn't be any crimes involved really, or none that you could prove in any case. And attempting to nationalising the entire industry seems extremely likely to fail in any number of ways, it's not like the stakeholders there lack resources or political support. I dunno though, it's not like there's a good, working solution that everyone thinks will work and also happen. I will say I think you can get pretty far by just maximising the public intervention where it "harms" the real estate capital development the most, e.g by having a public entity with lots of cash and good eminent domain rules and no right-to-buy build enough quality stuff that the local parasites have to compete. The landlord/tenant dynamic is a lot less unhealthy when the tenant's got options to choose from The US debate over healthcare is really illuminating. You can see basically the same arguments playing out over there. Public healthcare is impossible. There should be an option for people who want public healthcare. Let's just reform the current system to make it more fair. And we know the correct answer is the 'idealist' one: healthcare is a human right and the government can and should provide it. We know idealism is correct in this case, because we've had that system here for several generations. The interests who would resist a plan that made housing a right of all citizens would also resist any attempt to reform away the problems. So like gently caress it, aim high. Why fight on their ground: policy and practicality and reasonableness, when you can fight on the moral high ground?
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CGI Stardust posted:and the magpie. they look a tad drab from the ground See I still think this one looks nice but I just like magpies. Especially this one https://twitter.com/breesophiebree/status/1188743949508325377
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