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Been looking at some of this People's Vote stuff on Twitter and lol at all the responses that are: "Why do you have to air this stuff in public?!?"
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Oct 28, 2019 13:50
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Awrite mate, can I get a Somme burger and a can of remembrance please?
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Oct 28, 2019 13:56
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Who is saying that? I'm saying it now, loving hell. Labour still has too many right wing MPs making GBS threads themselves and the leadership have let themselves get pulled too much into the Westminster system to see they just need to do it. A 3 month extension is the longest the EU is going to ever give and resistance to Boris' deal is going to keep shrinking. Nevermind the loving weather just have the election now before everything falls into place for that Tory poo poo.
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Oct 28, 2019 13:57
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Awrite mate, can I get a Somme burger and a can of remembrance please?
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Oct 28, 2019 14:00
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namesake posted:I'm saying it now, loving hell. First off, I’m not sure that the extension is 100% yet because the Benn Act says the PM has to accept it, and I don’t know that he has yet. Secondly, if that’s all sorted, then yeah, go for it, especially in a way that gets the WAB poo poo pushed to the side, but until I’m sure about the first point I’m not keen on saying “they’re not being quick enough”.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:00
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Sanitary Naptime posted:First off, I’m not sure that the extension is 100% yet because the Benn Act says the PM has to accept it, and I don’t know that he has yet. The EU hasn't officially offered it yet. Will send letter tomorrow.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:01
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Tesseraction posted:The EU hasn't officially offered it yet. Will send letter tomorrow. Perfect reason to knock this the gently caress back until tomorrow or Wednesday then.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:03
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While I agree with that ideally there is the concern that the government + lib dems + snp will end up voting for an election before then which would be unfortunate for labour. Though that's more of an argument against the liberals/snp.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:05
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OwlFancier posted:While I agree with that ideally there is the concern that the government + lib dems + snp will end up voting for an election before then which would be unfortunate for labour. Though that's more of an argument against the liberals/snp. https://twitter.com/danbloom1/status/1188800452844019712
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Oct 28, 2019 14:08
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This country is mental The wifes parents (factory worker, nurse) last night said they hate jez but like boris. Why? How are poor people convinced by the lies of the rich so easily? They can’t name a single policy from either party but are so confident in their views. I don’t get it lol
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Oct 28, 2019 14:10
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Because policies are complicated and viewing politics as an extremely simple personality contest is easier, and the object of course is not to understand the material nature of reality, but to construct a narrative sufficient to answer any particularly nagging questions regardless of whether it's actually true.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:12
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Brexit party lot were hating this deal and know it’s still an option come Jan31st. The tories are at a much bigger loss to them come an election. Yes, agree; I was unclear. I guess I meant that if Johnson were forced to tepidly forbid no-deal, it would make them even angrier and ratchet up the anti-tory rhetoric. Maybe they’re (BP) already at their ceiling, though.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:14
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Bape Culture posted:This country is mental If they can't name any policies and clearly have no interest in researching it then just make some up that would gently caress them over It'll be easier than convincing them
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Oct 28, 2019 14:15
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Wait so clue me in, a person who's not been paying much attention lately: I thought that the letter had been sent, shenanigans notwithstanding, and the EU didn't give a poo poo about the shenanigans & are happy to extend in principle, precise details TBC So, we're looking at averting NDB imminently, but the current state of play is that Boris could just revoke the letter or whatever leaving us SOL. Which would mean that the LDs are pretty much risking NDB just to score a few cheap political points at Labour's expense?  Is that basically it?
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Oct 28, 2019 14:15
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Bape Culture posted:This country is mental have they paid off their reasonably priced mortgage from 1994 and started collecting retirement in the last 5 years but not needed any hospital care? Because if so then they have done very well at a personal level and will attribute that to the conservative government's affable rogue Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson who would have delivered Brexit for them if it wasn't for that dastardly UnElectable Jeremy The AntiSemite Corbyn
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Oct 28, 2019 14:20
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A Labour government will replace unaccountable elites with new unaccountable elites, says old unaccountable elite furious that it won't be him.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:20
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Borrovan posted:Wait so clue me in, a person who's not been paying much attention lately: https://twitter.com/QuentinAries/status/1188757689171611648 So letter will theoretically arrive before lunchtime tomorrow. Johnson then is required by the Benn Act to accept it immediately without caveat. There was a potential get-out clause if Johnson was offered a date other than Jan 31st, he had to accept within 2 days or before Oct 30, whichever was sooner, which he could theoretically have fobbed off or avoided via this election being called. He could also have asked parliament to allow him to reject whatever date was provided, but lol at that passing.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:22
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Borrovan posted:Wait so clue me in, a person who's not been paying much attention lately: The EU has not formally offered the extension and boris has not sent the official acceptance letter. Both of these will likely happen in the next couple of days, as he is obligated to accept it immediately if it is the january date, but they have not yet actually happened. So literally they could wait two days and they'd be fine, but that's too hard.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:23
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Bape Culture posted:This country is mental just tell them they'll get what they deserve.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:26
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OwlFancier posted:The EU has not formally offered the extension and boris has not sent the official acceptance letter. Both of these will likely happen in the next couple of days, as he is obligated to accept it immediately if it is the january date, but they have not yet actually happened. [brexits in lib dem]
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Oct 28, 2019 14:27
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Cheers all. So we're like 90% sure it's averted, & the LDs & SNP are totally happy to take that risk to score cheap political points. Corbz should definitely whip to oppose then, a few more weak-rear end JFC memes are totally a price worth paying to be able to point out that we are literally the only ones that are fighting to make sure NDB doesn't happen.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:34
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The excuse they're using is that the bill has to pass three readings etc. so Johnson will have to apply for the extension as it goes through the chambers. The only danger was the FTPA election call which gives the government control of the timetable. Thing is, this is absolutely a stunt.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:36
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Unfortunately if labour does oppose it, and it passes on tory/ld/snp votes then labour literally had to be dragged to an election. It's an empty threat if labour does get the opportunity to call an election when they want to, but if the government supports it then they won't, they'll only have voted against an election until the government made them have one.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:37
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CyberPingu posted:Wall. they’re using the launch of the newest Call of Duty as a recruitment tool no, really
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Oct 28, 2019 14:39
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Bape Culture posted:This country is mental If propaganda didn't work people wouldn't waste so much time & money on it. Unfortunately it's not that difficult to convince people to work against their own interests.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:39
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someone should release a goose that'll chase Johnson down the street and start a Corbynite revolution
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Oct 28, 2019 14:40
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Julio Cruz posted:sure but the amount of light it can, er, "collect" is still a function of the surface area of the lens (even disregarding variables like how much shadow there is nearby and how clean the lens is kept) Ooh, could I cover my entire roof with a lens and focus all the sunlight into one room? Could I build a mechanism to redirect the sunlight to different rooms triggered by weight sensitive mats in the doorways? You know, if I owned a house. Which is frankly more of a laughable hypothetical than the rest of this post 
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Oct 28, 2019 14:42
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Julio Cruz posted:they’re using the launch of the newest Call of Duty as a recruitment tool and the game, which purports to be gritty and realistic and to be ripped from the headlines etc attributes a Coalition (US, UK, France, Canada) atrocity to the Russians
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Oct 28, 2019 14:42
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Boris is just gonna go "What letter? I haven't received any letter. My internet's down. My puppy ate the postman. I'm on Holiday." for the next few days until we get Brexit.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:43
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forkboy84 posted:If propaganda didn't work people wouldn't waste so much time & money on it. Unfortunately it's not that difficult to convince people to work against their own interests.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:43
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:and the game, which purports to be gritty and realistic and to be ripped from the headlines etc Yeah, and not just any one but the loving standout war crime of the first gulf war https://twitter.com/TheChowderhead/status/1188469037757587456
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Oct 28, 2019 14:44
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Guavanaut posted:Only seems to work one way though. I mean the odds of billionaire media owners being pro-socialism are always going to be pretty slim. So long as you have a "free" privately owned press controlled by rich cunts it's going to be working against working class interests.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:45
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Unless we could convince them to work against their own interests. 
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Oct 28, 2019 14:46
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Braggart posted:Ooh, could I cover my entire roof with a lens and focus all the sunlight into one room? Could I build a mechanism to redirect the sunlight to different rooms triggered by weight sensitive mats in the doorways? You know, if I owned a house. Which is frankly more of a laughable hypothetical than the rest of this post Oh god I can't even remember what computer game I'm referencing here, let alone how the puzzle actually went, I'm so old Pissflaps
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Oct 28, 2019 14:48
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ronya posted:all folks with an interest in politics should read more material which shares their rough politics but from different, contradictory bases; it is the low-effort way to get at least some variation in one's food-for-thought diet thank you both for these excellent and calming birbs in this troubled time
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Oct 28, 2019 14:48
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School Nickname posted:Boris is just gonna go "What letter? I haven't received any letter. My internet's down. My puppy ate the postman. I'm on Holiday." for the next few days until we get Brexit.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:51
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Intresting, https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status/1188794136897433600 looks like Labour might back the bill after all.
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Oct 28, 2019 14:51
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Tesseraction posted:Yeah, and not just any one but the loving standout war crime of the first gulf war  (replies are great tho)
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