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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:What a poo poo team. Go back to Canada and your gay prime minister and take your Walgreens logo with you.
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pkay posted:Maybe you can't. But I mean, it's one of the few genuinely fairly absolute rules in every business, you absolutely cannot be signing someone's paychecks and gently caress them. There is some gray area with more lower level 'superior' poo poo like 'oh the guy you're dating became project manager does that create a conflict suddenly' and all but this is literally the boss loving her employee.
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Abusive is the wrong word unless you have additional information. It's an abuse of power and in any job you should be fired for having sex with your subordinate, but we don't know if she was abusive to the people involved. The power imbalance is what makes it abusive by default.
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Tatsuta Age posted:So just to be clear, is everyone ITT who is 100% sure Hill should be out on her rear end also saying that Clinton should have resigned? Yes. Dog Kisser posted:I, uh... what? The team that is currently the Washington Nationals used to be the Montreal Expos, I assume that's what Captain Chud there is referring to.
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Dog Kisser posted:I, uh... what? The Walgreens part is funny. (Also they're talking about how the Nats as a team were the Montreal Expos over a decade ago before moving to DC.)
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sexpig by night posted:I mean, it's one of the few genuinely fairly absolute rules in every business, you absolutely cannot be signing someone's paychecks and gently caress them. people can't separate out (1) hill obviously did something wrong and should resign, because we have zero tolerance for coercive workplace relationships where full consent is impossible from (2) but for the revenge porn element, she probably wouldn't have been forced out, and (3) republicans won't resign for the same behavior. just because the latter two points are true does not change the first part
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Read the thing you quoted again I'm just hearing some rich people diatribes of "Don't gently caress the help" (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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pkay posted:I'm just hearing some rich people diatribes of "Don't gently caress the help" You should get help. Don't gently caress it though
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The issue people have with stuff like Katie Hill is fundamentally that conservatives aren't held accountable for the things they do and say. They get to hold positions of power, teach and groom kids, etc. It's frustrating to see someone get taken down by relatively mild bad behavior while the media tut tuts people booing the president(whose crimes include sex crimes) and chanting to lock him up. She absolutely should've resigned. Worse is tolerated from the right every day, and worse is on the supreme court and in the office of the president.
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Buffer posted:The issue people have with stuff like Katie Hill is fundamentally that conservatives aren't held accountable for the things they do and say. They get to hold positions of power, teach and groom kids, etc. yeah but given that we're pushing to hold them accountable, why would we stop holding our own accountable
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pkay posted:I'm just hearing some rich people diatribes of "Don't gently caress the help"
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LeeMajors posted:lol jesus gently caress at these idiotic decorum dems tripping over their dicks to win over chuds. I don't think they're trying to win over Chuds, they just legit believe in the honor of the office as a thing that exists without reference to the occupant. It's a stupid position to have, but it's a different kind of stupid.
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pkay posted:I'm just hearing some rich people diatribes of "Don't gently caress the help" What is your thought on teachers/professors loving students?
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eke out posted:people can't separate out Yea everyone involved in this except the person getting hosed by their boss sucks. Revenge porn is evil, the republicans pretending to be outraged when they go to the mat for a proud sexual abuser/rapist/probably pedophile president are scum, this lady is a piece of poo poo for loving her employee for her weird threesome game or whatever. Bad people hurting a bad person with a bad method doesn't make the person suddenly a good person.
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eke out posted:people can't separate out 1 leads to 2, because her shithead husband acted like the co-abuser he was after she jilted him and then used the porn pics they took like giant morons to expose her. Keep in mind those pics were also able to be used to ensure the silence of the young woman she groomed. Shes a fuckin moron and clearly has a giant lack of judgement to think any of what she was doing would stay quiet forever. Good riddance. And for the record, gently caress Franken too, but this is significantly worse.
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Buffer posted:The issue people have with stuff like Katie Hill is fundamentally that conservatives aren't held accountable for the things they do and say. They get to hold positions of power, teach and groom kids, etc. I think one of the fundamental disconnects a lot of people have here is that what she did (independent of the revenge porn aspect which is incredibly gross and illegal) was not relatively mild bad behavior. Creating a sexually coercive environment (which is what you create by having sex with subordinates) isn't a mild bad behavior. It's extremely toxic and ripe for the sort of systemic abuse we constantly see in congress and elsewhere. Also 100% yes Clinton should have resigned.
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The comparisons here are literal no-poo poo rape, probably of children, murder, and then a whole heck of a lot of moral failings done under color of law though. You shouldn't rank suffering though, so I'll apologize for the mild comment and this one. evilweasel posted:yeah but given that we're pushing to hold them accountable, why would we stop holding our own accountable We shouldn't. That's just where it comes from. Holding conservatism accountable means its destruction at this point.
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Tatsuta Age posted:So just to be clear, is everyone ITT who is 100% sure Hill should be out on her rear end also saying that Clinton should have resigned? Absolutely. And since he refused, he should have been removed from office (not just impeached).
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401-K's Surely a man who knows retirement funding, and basic grammar.
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The worst part is that tweet is actually way too coherent for a Trump-written tweet
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The comment about the “401-K’s” is gonna look really good when the next recession hits and a shitload of people who were going to retire suddenly aren’t able to anymore. We’ll see how that works with the AARP crowd.
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Piell posted:Lol Clinton loving sucks, i love when chuds try this bullshit. They're all hypocrites so they assume nobody can actually have any standards and that everyone is faking caring about ethics and really only ever wants to attack people on the other side with it I'm just speaking from my experience with this thread, where some version of the statement "they impeached Clinton for a beej" comes up routinely, and I've never seen any pushback on it.
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TulliusCicero posted:If the democrats follow up on this dumbass "the office must be respected!" line then just gently caress them. Yeah. It's weird, I thought the whole point of having America was that instead of a king we would have a leader who was just Some Guy
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Republicans don't resign because they have an entire media network explicitly designed to shield them from consequences. They can afford to be hypocrites. Democrats by contrast face an entirely different media environment and don't have the luxury of being able to get away with being utter scum. also if Clinton had resigned then it's possible that Gore might have gone on to win in 2000 so I'm going to go with "double yes"
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm just speaking from my experience with this thread, where some version of the statement "they impeached Clinton for a beej" comes up routinely, and I've never seen any pushback on it. The "they impeached Clinton for a beej" thing generally comes up when Republicans are ignoring the sexual misdeeds of their own party. It's a call against their hypocrisy, not saying it was bad they did it
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm just speaking from my experience with this thread, where some version of the statement "they impeached Clinton for a beej" comes up routinely, and I've never seen any pushback on it. what bad behavior constituted grounds for impeachment (and he was not impeached for sexual harassment, he was impeached for lying about the beej) and what bad behavior constituted grounds to demand he resign are two different things it's a complicated subject because at the core everyone knows republicans didn't actually give a gently caress about any of the sexual misconduct, they just thought impeachment would be fun. in addition, i may be recalling this somewhat fuzzily but i think that the focus was on the adultery and there was very little consideration of the sexual harassment part of it evilweasel fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Oct 28, 2019 |
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TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm just speaking from my experience with this thread, where some version of the statement "they impeached Clinton for a beej" comes up routinely, and I've never seen any pushback on it. the joke is more that clinton got put on trial for getting his dick sucked in a legal but exploitative context by the same people who defend dudes who are proud rapists in their party. It's not really 'Clinton did nothing wrong', more 'god gently caress you hypocritical moralist idiots'.
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You shoot children in the back of the head and commendate the cop for it you loving piece of poo poo american.
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Tatsuta Age posted:So just to be clear, is everyone ITT who is 100% sure Hill should be out on her rear end also saying that Clinton should have resigned? Yes. He also shouldn't have let Monica Lewinsky's life get obliterated because he pressured a subordinate into an affair. Clinton is third-way moderate, sex monster immoral trash and should be tossed into the nearest star. Any other questions? 
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Tatsuta Age posted:So just to be clear, is everyone ITT who is 100% sure Hill should be out on her rear end also saying that Clinton should have resigned? I would have been somewhat conflicted if it meant that the Republicans would have gotten the presidency.
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TulliusCicero posted:Yes. He also shouldn't have let Monica Lewinsky's life get obliterated because he pressured a subordinate into an affair. Every time someone mentions bill Clinton in an effort to deflect from the moral failings of others, I just think of that cartoon of the guy mashing the blue button without hesitation. gently caress the Clintons. ^^^ Resignation would mean Gore was president.
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Data Graham posted:Yeah. It's weird, I thought the whole point of having America was that instead of a king we would have a leader who was just Some Guy Even Washington was like "I don't want to be a king, just call me the President and make it so you elect those" and American politics have had far worse and scathing critiques and insults than loving boos It really goes to show that class solidarity is a thing, the rich and elite understand that, and they will always come to each other's aid when their facade of power starts to crack, regardless of political party
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Every time someone mentions bill Clinton in an effort to deflect from the moral failings of others, I just think of that cartoon of the guy mashing the blue button without hesitation. Pretty much every time you see a regressive bringing up Clinton it's a 100% Bad Faith Argument. vvvv Killary snuffed him right as he was about to reveal the Cosmic Pizza Truth.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:T_D responds to booing in a rational way "Epstein didn't kill himself." Just dropped in haha
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:^^^ I know. I was just making a general statement about what could make me hesitate in calling for his resignation.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Republicans don't resign because they have an entire media network explicitly designed to shield them from consequences. They can afford to be hypocrites. Democrats by contrast face an entirely different media environment and don't have the luxury of being able to get away with being utter scum. It isn't even that they can afford to be hypocrites, their base and fundraising sources demand that they be hypocrites. They went to bat for Kavanaugh so hard because they had to demonstrate to everyone that "be loyal to us and we'll protect you from consequences, betray us and we'll attack you" still held. Amusingly Trump is cracking the foundations of that promise because he keeps throwing people under the bus.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Resignation would mean Gore was president. I was about to say that maybe the concern was that Gore would lose the next election... but then I realized the impeachment happened during Clinton's second term, so that happened anyway. So yeah, Clinton absolutely should have resigned.
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SirPablo posted:"Epstein didn't kill himself." Just dropped in haha What world do these people live in? How can anyone look at Trump and go, "Yeah. This is the guy. This guy represents me and I think he's great." You support Trump because you want your rich guy tax cut? Fine, I get that reasoning. Hate immigrants? Ok, also a reason. But...you think Trump is actually articulate and good? Just...how?
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