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Dapper_Swindler posted:Depends on the voter. But a lot of the alt right Chan ones like yang and or Gabbard for various reasons. Some still like trump but many dropped because it became even to obvious for them that he is a moron but a lot dropped him because he likes Israel or some poo poo and he didn’t kill enough browns. Many of them have either gotten bored with it all together and a few others have gone full siege pill. The ones you’re talking about probably still supporting trump some what if only to not look “weak” but many are probably just sick of him on various levels. I guess my view is trump probably has more support than I’d like to think but half of them probably think he is hosed in 2020 and etc. I'm afraid to ask, what the gently caress is a "Siege Pill?" Are the Turner Diaries or the Joker involved?
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skylined! posted:I believe this will begin another.... compaction cycle, where chuds continue to believe this is a massive victory and sane not-totally-deadeyed Rs continue to peel off. PJ's framework is very useful for describing this sort of behavior.
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Just catching up on the thread. While I think reps should be able to gently caress whoever they want outside of normal poo poo like “don’t gently caress subordinates you have authority over in the workplace”, if you’ve put 700+ pics of yourself nude up on the internet why in the gently caress would you ever run for public office and not expect them to surface and get used against you. It seems naive to think in the age of the internet that privacy exists, the morality of it aside. And yeah, they’re all def getting passed around by thirsty GOP reps while they jerk off to her with one hand and tweet out pearl clutching statements with the other. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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tokyo reject posted:Just catching up on the thread. While I think reps should be able to gently caress whoever they want outside of normal poo poo like “don’t gently caress subordinates you have authority over in the workplace”, if you’ve put 700+ pics of yourself nude up on the internet why in the gently caress would you ever run for public office and not expect them to surface and get used against you. It seems naive to think in the age of the internet that privacy exists, the morality of it aside. She didn't put them on the internet, they were private pictures and her ex-husband leaked them.
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tokyo reject posted:Just catching up on the thread. While I think reps should be able to gently caress whoever they want outside of normal poo poo like “don’t gently caress subordinates you have authority over in the workplace”, if you’ve put 700+ pics of yourself nude up on the internet why in the gently caress would you ever run for public office and not expect them to surface and get used against you. It seems naive to think in the age of the internet that privacy exists, the morality of it aside. Thanks for chiming in despite not knowing even the basic details of what you were talking about
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VH4Ever posted:I don't have a secret agenda here I just thought that was a thing that happened. I still don't get it but it did, right? If you're interested in looking at a breakdown of the numbers, both NPR and 538 did some work on the stats. In short, about 25% of Bernie voters didn't vote for Hillary in the general election. Half of them voted for Trump, and the other half voted for a third party or didn't vote at all. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bernie-sanders-was-helped-by-the-neverhillary-vote-what-does-that-mean-for-his-chances-now/ https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds
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Wylie posted:I'd take that bet. for every one of you there is endless people that are incapable of change. It becomes incredibly frustrating to talk to these people. All the do is wait for you to be done talking so they can fire off carefully crafted astroturf talking points in order to try to explain the horrible or defend the indefensible. I can understand why anyone would be fed up with trying to "debate" these people. ManBoyChef fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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TulliusCicero posted:I'm afraid to ask, what the gently caress is a "Siege Pill?" no. joker isnt involved and never has been really. turner diaries is related but its based off this neo nazi dickheads writings which informs atomwaffa/bowl patrol and christchurch/el paso walmart shooters tactics. which is basicaly leaderless resistance. just cause as much damage until the goverment gives up or some poo poo. this is pretty good coverage of the whole nazi fash movemement since ww2. http://www.thewaroneveryone.com/ https://idontspeakgerman.libsyn.com/episode-28-the-siege-pill this and the following episode explain siege pill poo poo pretty well.
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Trying to rescue chuds reminds me of the story of the son of the founder of Stormfront and how he was deprogrammed by basically random people he met at college. He went from being a prominent rising star in the white nationalist movement to publicly denouncing it because people had the courage to try and cut through his bullshit.quote:In addition to being the story of Derek's transformation, the book is also the story of the real courage shown by a lot of students on this campus who invested themselves in trying to affect profound change. And they did that in a lot of different ways. There was civil resistance on campus by a group of students who organized the school shutdown, and shut down the school, and sort of cast Derek out, and made it clear to him how awful, and how hateful, and how hurtful this ideology was.
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Whenever I want to know what a Lovecraft character feels like when they look at an elder god, I check the Facebook wall of the one annoying kid who was into politics in middle school. Loves Bernie, loves Trump, thinks generic Democrats are better than generic Republicans, and haaates Hillary and the Squad.
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skylined! posted:I believe this will begin another.... compaction cycle, where chuds continue to believe this is a massive victory and sane not-totally-deadeyed Rs continue to peel off. the core base(20-35%) will stay with trump until the ghoul hotels boiler explodes. i mean i met one today at work and he talked about how great and awesome trump speech was yesterday.
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Dr Christmas posted:Whenever I want to know what a Lovecraft character feels like when they look at an elder god, I check the Facebook wall of the one annoying kid who was into politics in middle school. Loves Bernie, loves Trump, thinks generic Democrats are better than generic Republicans, and haaates Hillary and the Squad. What the gently caress. so a... fox news watching democrat?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1188915520369655808quote:The cost of a basic room at Trump’s DC Hotel is nearly three times its average rate on November 7th. Conspicuously, that’s the night between Senate Republicans’ two day retreat at Trump’s Hotel. Filling the hotel with a who’s who of Republican power players serves as an invitation for anyone looking to influence the government, and the hotel’s role as a hot spot for influence peddling has helped to make it one of the few bright spots in Trump’s financial portfolio.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:the core base(20-35%) will stay with trump until the ghoul hotels boiler explodes. i mean i met one today at work and he talked about how great and awesome trump speech was yesterday. oh that reminds me, I need to get some of the potentially retrievable / breakable chuds (look, I live and work in Texas, okay) to watch the speech
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Oct 29, 2019 01:15
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-nunes-aide-is-leaking-the-ukraine-whistleblowers-name-sources-say so this is happening/has been happening.
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Oct 29, 2019 01:15
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Amusingly the Trumps are simultaneously trying to sell their lease on the DC hotel as fast as possible because they know quite well that Donald's massive unpopularity has ruined the long-term value of the property. His idiot son put out a particularly stupid press release that tried to argue that they were selling it because it made them too much money. 😂
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Ya Daryl Davis is basically a saint also but it's real fuckin' awful to expect that from all POC - not that that's being done itt, but we can't passively look toward racism as a problem for POC to fix.Dapper_Swindler posted:the core base(20-35%) will stay with trump until the ghoul hotels boiler explodes. i mean i met one today at work and he talked about how great and awesome trump speech was yesterday. Well, yea, but taking only your base of 20-35% into an election will be monumentally disastrous for the entire GOP, on a scale American politics has pretty much never seen.
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skylined! posted:Ya Daryl Davis is basically a saint also but it's real fuckin' awful to expect that from all POC - not that that's being done itt, but we can't passively look toward racism as a problem for POC to fix. the death of the Whigs, maybe
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skylined! posted:Ya Daryl Davis is basically a saint also but it's real fuckin' awful to expect that from all POC - not that that's being done itt, but we can't passively look toward racism as a problem for POC to fix. same. alot of people i work with are conservative or rightish leaning but they either hate trump for various reasons or just dont talk about him.
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skylined! posted:Well, yea, but taking only your base of 20-35% into an election will be monumentally disastrous for the entire GOP, on a scale American politics has pretty much never seen. But it's not just 20 to 35 percent, right? Because the rabid base is, let's say, 25%, a bunch of other morally questionable fuckers will go along with the stuff the diehards cheer on because it gets them the judges and the deregulation they want. There's gotta be close to an equal number of opportunistic assholes.
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Bel Shazar posted:But it's not just 20 to 35 percent, right? Because the rabid base is, let's say, 25%, a bunch of other morally questionable fuckers will go along with the stuff the diehards cheer on because it gets them the judges and the deregulation they want. There's gotta be close to an equal number of opportunistic assholes. i am 20 to 35 is the base that is super loyal to him. i think the problem is outside various opportunistic morons and lickspittles, i think alot of the part is at least willing to consider stabbing him in the back for various reasons.
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Yeah what's the percentage of voters who only watch fox news as their info source, because whether or not they are die hard trump forever people, they are 100% going to vote for him cause they don't really ever see the bad stuff that everybody else has to face on a daily basis
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is this the lady who is basically there to be ogled by old boomers.
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I don't even know what the purport that Schiff has leaked?
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Dapper_Swindler posted:is this the lady who is basically there to be ogled by old boomers. hahaha remember when Righties used to pass memes like "LOOK AT ALL OUR HOT SEXY RIGHT LADIES AND THESE CRAPPY DUMPY LEFT LADIES?"
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Dr Christmas posted:Whenever I want to know what a Lovecraft character feels like when they look at an elder god, I check the Facebook wall of the one annoying kid who was into politics in middle school. Loves Bernie, loves Trump, thinks generic Democrats are better than generic Republicans, and haaates Hillary and the Squad. So a misogynist who doesn’t really have other meaningful political opinions
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Bel Shazar posted:But it's not just 20 to 35 percent, right? Because the rabid base is, let's say, 25%, a bunch of other morally questionable fuckers will go along with the stuff the diehards cheer on because it gets them the judges and the deregulation they want. There's gotta be close to an equal number of opportunistic assholes. If you want to trust approval poll aggregates a la 538, his base is around 35% - these are people that are ride or die GOP for whatever reason (racism and/or elimination of the entire welfare state and also taxes basically). Peeling off everyone but the base means we have two democratic senators from GA and one from TX, among other things. It's exactly why everyone tacks to the center once the primary is over with - you can't win elections with just your base, which is why there is a lot of hushed talk of breaking with trump.
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https://twitter.com/attackerman/status/1188976673997381632 so this is happening. nice on the beast for outing this gently caress head.
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But the guy that was just arrested for starting fires was a Missouri dude https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/27/us/freddie-graham-reservoir-fire-cali-trnd/index.html
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Tatsuta Age posted:Yeah what's the percentage of voters who only watch fox news as their info source, because whether or not they are die hard trump forever people, they are 100% going to vote for him cause they don't really ever see the bad stuff that everybody else has to face on a daily basis https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/how-many-people-actually-watch-fox-news-in-america.html/ quote:Fox News primetime viewers amount to less than 1% of the population. 3.3m people watch Hannity on average; that's about 5.2% of the voters who voted for trump. Ya'll aren't really understanding how loving damaging it is for the public at large to be aware of impeachment proceedings. skylined! fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Eat poo poo, Nate https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1188916150668689408?s=20
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Nate Silver deplatforming himself (or at least less-platforming himself?) is literally the perfect outcome of this so bravo everyone
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https://twitter.com/dril/status/660644922744262656?s=20 so he is doing this?
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skylined! posted:If you want to trust approval poll aggregates a la 538, his base is around 35% - these are people that are ride or die GOP for whatever reason (racism and/or elimination of the entire welfare state and also taxes basically). I get the "just your base" bit... but it won't be just the base. Within the R party that 35% is big enough and decentralized enough to exert a massive influence within the party and set that agenda, and between the "anyone but a Democrat" types and the "well, I'm white so I'll probably do well" types and the "wow, look at all the people who support him, I should vote for Trump too" bandwagon types all straight-ticketing their ballot I just don't expect the down ballot massacre some do. That being said, I hope I'm wrong.
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Can we just talk about how much these freaks clearly dislike kids https://twitter.com/politico/status/1188944247535198209
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Herstory Begins Now posted:Nate honestly seems like he does a lot of beer tweeting and given his profile and tendency to talk about really loaded poo poo has obviously not been a good plan at all I feel like I need to stand in solidarity with a data science guy using social media while intoxicated.
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sexpig by night posted:Can we just talk about how much these freaks clearly dislike kids its funny how stiff he is. like at least melania can pretend to care and get on their level. also the music sounds like its like trippy version of the background music on mister rogers.
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