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ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL

Perestroika posted:

FDP is polled at more or less exactly 5%, so two prognoses for whether they make it in or not:





So, RRG is probably out. Coalition building is gonna be fun! :allears:

Can't wait for CDU-AFD-FDP

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Smirr
Jun 28, 2012

ephex posted:

Can't wait for CDU-AFD-FDP

It would be AfD-CDU-FDP, though

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
https://twitter.com/_DanArrows/status/1188567295536386049

https://twitter.com/_DanArrows/status/1188568208653082624

https://twitter.com/_DanArrows/status/1188570077173616640

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
I obviously agree that it's bad but can I also offer the foreign perspective that it's really impressive that die Linke is the biggest party. You don't see that anywhere in Europe.

e: just to clarify, I don't want to downplay the danger of the afd, just offer a glimmer of hope.

oliwan fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Oct 27, 2019

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
yep. in west germany it's like this:

https://twitter.com/Seele_diebin/status/1188566091917942787

and in bavaria the nazis are already comfortable in the CSU

true.spoon
Jun 7, 2012

oliwan posted:

I obviously agree that it's bad but can I also offer the foreign perspective that it's really impressive that die Linke is the biggest party. You don't see that anywhere in Europe.

e: just to clarify, I don't want to downplay the danger of the afd, just offer a glimmer of hope.
I wouldn't really put my hope into the old people who vote die Linke for historical reasons.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
In all other age groups Die Linke is still consistently the second-strongest, with the biggest lead over 3rd and below in the age group under 30. Scroll down in the article Dan linked.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo

Mithaldu posted:

In all other age groups Die Linke is still consistently the second-strongest, with the biggest lead over 3rd and below in the age group under 30. Scroll down in the article Dan linked.

Yeah, I think the success of Die Linke is really remarkable and unique in Europe. In fact I find it quite inspiring. I also think that the Linke block is far more solid than the afd one in that it's easier for afd to lose voters (to Die Linke for instance) than it is for Die Linke to lose voters (especially to afd).

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
Yup, that's something a lot of people underestimate: How unlikely it is for lefties to move right, versus how easily right wingers, especially young ones, can be moved left.

true.spoon
Jun 7, 2012
That might be the case in the future but for now Die Linke is consistently losing votes to the AfD in eastern Germany (has been true in 2014 as well).

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

:hmmyes:

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


sozialismus oder barbarei indeed

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Mr. Lobe posted:

sozialismus oder barbarei indeed

Something similar happens in Hannover soon: We had Bürgermeisterwahl on Sunday and it turns out only two out of our many candidates could get more than a couple percent of the votes.

In fact, both the Green and the CDU-candidate are comfortably at 30+ percent and have almost exactly the same amount of votes (the Green candidate has a very slight Vorsprung). The SPD loses control of the Bürgermeisteramt, as their hapless fool only got something like 20%, not enough to enter the now following Stichwahl.

So if any of you live in Hannover and don't want the greedy CDU to take another helpless city, go vote! The Stichwahl between Belit Onay (Grüne) and Scholz (CDU) is coming soon!

Dommolus Magnus
Feb 27, 2013

Libluini posted:

Something similar happens in Hannover soon: We had Bürgermeisterwahl on Sunday and it turns out only two out of our many candidates could get more than a couple percent of the votes.

In fact, both the Green and the CDU-candidate are comfortably at 30+ percent and have almost exactly the same amount of votes (the Green candidate has a very slight Vorsprung). The SPD loses control of the Bürgermeisteramt, as their hapless fool only got something like 20%, not enough to enter the now following Stichwahl.

So if any of you live in Hannover and don't want the greedy CDU to take another helpless city, go vote! The Stichwahl between Belit Onay (Grüne) and Scholz (CDU) is coming soon!

But are SPD voters going to break for the saner option in the second round? Considering which party we are talking about that is rather doubtful.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

oliwan posted:

Yeah, I think the success of Die Linke is really remarkable and unique in Europe. In fact I find it quite inspiring. I also think that the Linke block is far more solid than the afd one in that it's easier for afd to lose voters (to Die Linke for instance) than it is for Die Linke to lose voters (especially to afd).

Don't worry, if the EU ever gets to make the eurozone actually functional (that is to say, create a fiscal union, since it is the only way to make the EZ functional), the AfD will instantly poll at 99% all over Germany out of pure FYGM energy.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Dommolus Magnus posted:

But are SPD voters going to break for the saner option in the second round? Considering which party we are talking about that is rather doubtful.

I'm kind of hoping the ancient mummies still voting SPD and CDU stay in their graves in the second round.

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Cat Mattress posted:

Don't worry, if the EU ever gets to make the eurozone actually functional (that is to say, create a fiscal union, since it is the only way to make the EZ functional), the AfD will instantly poll at 99% all over Germany out of pure FYGM energy.

In that hypothetical case, France has my Segen to drop their nukes on Germany.


Edit:

Ha, ha. I didn't expect this to happen:

CDU schließt Zusammenarbeit mit den Linken nicht aus.

If Thüringen manages to get a CDU/Linke coalition going, I will seriously laugh until I drop dead. :allears:

Libluini fucked around with this message at 11:50 on Oct 28, 2019

Goons Are Gifts
Jan 1, 1970

I'd love to see those policies go. Konservative aller Länder, vereinigt euch

goethe42
Jun 5, 2004

Ich sei, gewaehrt mir die Bitte, in eurem Bunde der Dritte!

Cat Mattress posted:

Don't worry, if the EU ever gets to make the eurozone actually functional (that is to say, create a fiscal union, since it is the only way to make the EZ functional), the AfD will instantly poll at 99% all over Germany out of pure FYGM energy.

I doubt that, I've seen a lot of discussions during the Euro-crisis, where the consensus was that financial transfers would be OK (the way they work on a federal level in Germany), if the level of taxation was also the same throughout the Euro-zone.
But even if I lived and read in a 1%-bubble, what do you think the reaction would be in the other Euro countries?
The probable net-payers like Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland or France would not also have Vlaams Belang, PVV, FN and the True Finns at 99%?
What will happen in Ireland, Luxembourg or the Netherlands, when their whole business model of being a tax-haven within the EU will collapse? Socialism in our time?

Let's not pretend there was a single non-PIIGS Eurozone-country that was keen to pay off the Greek debt.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

goethe42 posted:

The probable net-payers like Belgium, the Netherlands, Finland or France would not also have Vlaams Belang, PVV, FN and the True Finns at 99%?

The left is already dead in those countries, so the only choice voters have are between fascists and neoliberal centrists (which are secretly the same thing, just without and with :decorum: ) so they're basically already there.

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny

aphid_licker posted:

The bit of the thread I read has at least two other taz people :wtf:ing at her. That's gonna be awkward at the Kantine tomorrow.


https://twitter.com/garamsalami/status/1188845864820842500?s=21

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Can somebody link me to that guide on becoming a fatcat landlord with just 25k of investment?

For, uh, research.

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

I see someone read "So you said something stupid on the Internet - Ten proven ways to dig in and corncob harder"

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

Randler posted:

Can somebody link me to that guide on becoming a fatcat landlord with just 25k of investment?

For, uh, research.

Yes, here, I know how. Buy ETFs on margin. 25k eigenkapital, 75k loan @ 3%. Hold for 20 years to get an average 5% growth. Loan pays for itself and 2% profit. Aber nicht weitersagen, is geheimtipp

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

GABA ghoul posted:

Yes, here, I know how. Buy ETFs on margin. 25k eigenkapital, 75k loan @ 3%. Hold for 20 years to get an average 5% growth. Loan pays for itself and 2% profit. Aber nicht weitersagen, is geheimtipp

Have you factored in that the interest I pay for that refinancing loan are non-deductible for tax purposes to the extend they exceed the Sparerpauschbetrag?

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
I just found out that Baywatch, which takes place in LA, is called Die Rettungsschwimmer von Malibu in Germany. Lol?

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

What is confusing you about this op

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Sometimes original titles do not translate well to certain audiences. In this case it makes sense to use a more indicative title.

Similiar to how No Truce with the Furies is a very good title if you know the underlying Welsh poem but Disco Elysium is more likely to attract people and easier to say.

Y'all should totally read No Truce with the Furies and eventually buy Disco Elysium, by the way.

oliwan
Jul 20, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
I know this because me and the gf have been watching the glorious HD remastered version of Baywatch which now airs on universal tv during our after dinner slump on the couch... what a time to be alive.

Mitch Buchanan is a really good dad btw

ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL

GABA ghoul posted:

Yes, here, I know how. Buy ETFs on margin. 25k eigenkapital, 75k loan @ 3%. Hold for 20 years to get an average 5% growth. Loan pays for itself and 2% profit. Aber nicht weitersagen, is geheimtipp

lol

ephex
Nov 4, 2007





PHWOAR CRIMINAL

Libluini posted:

In that hypothetical case, France has my Segen to drop their nukes on Germany.


Edit:

Ha, ha. I didn't expect this to happen:

CDU schließt Zusammenarbeit mit den Linken nicht aus.

If Thüringen manages to get a CDU/Linke coalition going, I will seriously laugh until I drop dead. :allears:
Der Protest war umfänglich. "Wenn wir mit Linkspartei und AfD koalieren würden, dann braucht es uns nicht mehr", sagte Landwirtschaftsministerin Julia Klöckner. "Wir müssen endlich Haltung zeigen statt Beliebigkeit", sagte der Chef der Mittelstandsvereinigung, Carsten Linnemann. "Mir sträubt sich wirklich alles, wenn ich an eine Zusammenarbeit der CDU mit der Linken denke", sagte der baden-württembergische Landeschef Thomas Strobl. Sein Generalsekretär Manuel Hagel sagte: "Wer an dieser Stelle offen ist, ist womöglich nicht ganz dicht."

Eine besondere Form des Widerspruchs wählte Mohrings Vize in der Fraktion, Michael Heym. Er sagte: "Rechnerisch reicht es für ein Bündnis aus AfD, CDU und FDP. Ich finde, das sollte man nicht von vornherein ausschließen." Da die AfD am Sonntag stärker als die CDU geworden war, würde sie in einer solchen Koalition nach den parlamentarischen Gepflogenheiten den Ministerpräsidenten stellen, also Björn Höcke. AfD-Bundessprecher Alexander Gauland bezeichnete die Konstellation mit CDU und FDP als "bürgerliche Mehrheit". Es wäre richtig, sie umzusetzen.

frankenfreak
Feb 16, 2007

I SCORED 85% ON A QUIZ ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT RAW AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS LOUSY TEXT

#bastionboogerbrigade

ephex posted:

Der Protest war umfänglich. "Wenn wir mit Linkspartei und AfD koalieren würden, dann braucht es uns nicht mehr", sagte Landwirtschaftsministerin Julia Klöckner. "Wir müssen endlich Haltung zeigen statt Beliebigkeit", sagte der Chef der Mittelstandsvereinigung, Carsten Linnemann. "Mir sträubt sich wirklich alles, wenn ich an eine Zusammenarbeit der CDU mit der Linken denke", sagte der baden-württembergische Landeschef Thomas Strobl. Sein Generalsekretär Manuel Hagel sagte: "Wer an dieser Stelle offen ist, ist womöglich nicht ganz dicht."

Eine besondere Form des Widerspruchs wählte Mohrings Vize in der Fraktion, Michael Heym. Er sagte: "Rechnerisch reicht es für ein Bündnis aus AfD, CDU und FDP. Ich finde, das sollte man nicht von vornherein ausschließen." Da die AfD am Sonntag stärker als die CDU geworden war, würde sie in einer solchen Koalition nach den parlamentarischen Gepflogenheiten den Ministerpräsidenten stellen, also Björn Höcke. AfD-Bundessprecher Alexander Gauland bezeichnete die Konstellation mit CDU und FDP als "bürgerliche Mehrheit". Es wäre richtig, sie umzusetzen.
Let it rain nuclear lightning, Jupiter!

GABA ghoul
Oct 29, 2011

yes, let's crown a neo-nazi who wrote for the npd, is head of the Flügel and probably under surveillance by Verfassungsschutz Ministerpräsident, instead of doing a minority government or a coalition with a mildly social democratic party. great thoughts, real visionary here :hmmyes:

also, can you order the Landesverfassungschutz to stop investigating yourself if you are Ministerpräsident? Is that obstruction of justice?

Greader
Oct 11, 2012
But don't you see, the other option would be coalition with the Linken, and where would the world come to if they did that? Besides, letting him openly spout his bullshit should make the Verfassungsschutzs job easier, right? :v:

Listening to the radio, apparently a guy in Göttingen had sold around 200 gold bars to a bank three years ago, and now he is on trial because turns out those bars were just another metal with a gold layer on top. Makes me wonder what the process is for selling those because you'd imagine the banks would maybe try and do some testing to check if those bars aren't fake in some way, especially when someone just shows up with a bunch of bars out of nowhere. Like, did they think he just found his grandpa's secret stash of 10 tons of gold or something?

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Herbstfest der Presse

taz: Wir wollen nicht in unser eigenes Horn blasen, aber wir haben einen extrem dümmlichen Beitrag über Immobilienerwerb veröffentlicht. Der ist schwer zu übertreffen.

SPON: Halten Sie meinen Chai Latte.

https://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/soziales/vermoegensbarometer-der-grosse-graben-zwischen-stadt-und-land-a-1293769.html posted:

Im Zuge des Immobilienbooms der vergangenen zehn Jahre sind die Kaufpreise drastisch gestiegen - in einigen Großstädten um mehr als hundert Prozent. Zugleich sind allerdings auch die Zinsen für Immobilienkredite deutlich gesunken, sie liegen mittlerweile bei unter einem Prozent. Das macht den Kaufpreisanstieg in guten Teilen wett, die monatlichen Kreditraten sind also für viele Interessenten immer noch erschwinglich. Allerdings wird es immer schwieriger, den geforderten Eigenkapitalanteil aufzubringen, weil dieser mit den steigenden Kaufpreisen stetig wächst.

"Hurf-durf, die die Zinsen sinken. Wie, ich muss neben den Zinsen auch den wegen Kaufpreisen viel zu hohen Darlehensbetrag zurückzahlen?" :ughh:

Perestroika
Apr 8, 2010

Well this sure is an image:

Plankalkuel
Mar 29, 2008

Perestroika posted:

Well this sure is an image:



I'm the white "durch" on white ground.

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

White on white violence so to speak

Sereri
Sep 30, 2008

awwwrigami

Lol @Thüringer SPD

"SPD erwägt Gang in die Opposition" lol no poo poo

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aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Greader posted:

But don't you see, the other option would be coalition with the Linken, and where would the world come to if they did that? Besides, letting him openly spout his bullshit should make the Verfassungsschutzs job easier, right? :v:

Listening to the radio, apparently a guy in Göttingen had sold around 200 gold bars to a bank three years ago, and now he is on trial because turns out those bars were just another metal with a gold layer on top. Makes me wonder what the process is for selling those because you'd imagine the banks would maybe try and do some testing to check if those bars aren't fake in some way, especially when someone just shows up with a bunch of bars out of nowhere. Like, did they think he just found his grandpa's secret stash of 10 tons of gold or something?

I had to get rid of a bunch of Klimbim some Sparkassenheini sold to my mom 45 years ago and they test the elektrischer Widerstand or something of the stuff but the process seems kinda rickety - it took him forever to get readings etc - and it wouldn't surprise me if it turned out that it was some Wünschelrute level "technology"

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