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I think what's so infuriating is if the bears hadn't tried so hard to switch offensive philosophies, spend a ton on offense, etc they'd actually be better than they are and contending for a wild card Just pound the ball with Jordan Howard, eat up clock, special teams and defense. Dick jauron, lovie smith, John fox could all get this defense + an average bears run team + jump balls to arob from a 5th round qb a hell of a lot further This loving sucks. Just...drafting Jonathan Allen instead and having more good depth would have been better than Mitch. gently caress, bring back mike Glennon
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Oct 29, 2019 17:22
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I wanted them to fleece the Bills for Tyrod Taylor and Sammy Watkins together.
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Oct 29, 2019 17:30
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...hooray? https://twitter.com/Kofie/status/1188985989533970432
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Oct 29, 2019 18:00
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Oct 29, 2019 18:08
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adaz posted:Was looking at the bears cap situation which isn't great but they aren't capped out by any means and... They're not capped out, but I don't see where they slot in a bunch of big signings. Remember they have to fill offensive line and secondary slots in the offseason. They also have to pay Eddie Jackson a ton of money (and Tarik Cohen some too). Sure they can dump Leonard Floyd. While he's not worth $13 million, he's still an above average edge rusher you have to replace. Same goes with Amukamara at corner. Another problem is Pace giving lovely smaller deals to players. Coradelle Patterson is going to make over $5 million next season for some reason. Mike Davis is getting $4 million to be a 3rd string running back. Parkey is still on the books. brugroffil posted:they love all his intangibles, such as his [is white], that really differentiated him from Watson and Mahomes It's the same problem they've had for decades. A bunch of dumbshits who think they're smarter than everyone else in control. And a local media that fawns over you if you make the playoffs once every 5 years. At the end of the year, Ryan Pace will have been GM of a team that has had a losing record 4 of the last 5 years and who took Trubisky over two Hall of Fame QBs.
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Oct 29, 2019 20:10
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Dexo posted:The Defense would be helped by an Offense that allowed them to not be perfect and didn't constantly put them on the field after a 3 and out. And an average QB would be able to hit recievers open on the sidelines. They were also bound to regress some. Had very few injuries last season. The turnover margin was not going to stay that high. And they downgraded dramatically at coordinator.
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Oct 29, 2019 20:13
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Dexo posted:The thing is the Bears aren't thaat bereft of talent. They don't even need a good QB. They need a Dilfer.
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Oct 29, 2019 22:00
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Beethovens Fist Symphony posted:rofl what the gently caress is a want-to? When your QB doesn't have "can-do," you have to settle for "want-to."
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Oct 29, 2019 22:12
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If you can't do, teach. If you can't teach, want-to.
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Oct 29, 2019 22:16
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Kevlar v2.0 posted:They don't even need a good QB. They need a Dilfer. 
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Oct 29, 2019 23:24
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Oct 29, 2019 23:43
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Oh gently caress that if the Bears get him than we absolutely get a turn too.
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Oct 29, 2019 23:52
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He's 50 years old. None of y'all want him.
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Oct 30, 2019 00:09
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Niwrad posted:They're not capped out, but I don't see where they slot in a bunch of big signings. Remember they have to fill offensive line and secondary slots in the offseason. They also have to pay Eddie Jackson a ton of money (and Tarik Cohen some too). *traded up to take.
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Oct 30, 2019 00:22
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LabyaMynora posted:He's 50 years old. None of y'all want him. I want him. Sexually.
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Oct 30, 2019 00:28
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Ask Jenn Sterger if she still has his number. Then you can text him your petite dinklage.
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I wonder if there’s a universe where Favre ends up so broke from lawsuits or divorces that he decides to play in the XFL. He doesn’t strike me as the type who would worry about tainting his legacy, and old man Favre is probably ten times better than any of the QB talent the XFL will be able to sign.
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Not Pictured: Trubs https://twitter.com/PFF/status/1189282515414065159?s=19
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beejay posted:Why couldn't they have just picked Watson or Mahomes do you honestly think watson or mahomes wouldn't just instantly into poo poo the second they put on the bears jersey like every other quarterback on this team
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Oct 30, 2019 04:32
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What I wouldn't give to briefly glimpse into the alternate reality where Mahomes is bad and injured on the Bears while Trubs is lighting it up every week on the chiefs.
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Oct 30, 2019 04:50
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Has anyone posted about Jayron Kearse’s arrest details? 5 misdemeanors: Carrying a pistol without a permit Carrying a pistol while under the influence Careless driving Operating a car under the influence Operating a car over a .08 Best part of the story I saw on mnsportnews Instagram is: “CB mike Hughes was also a passenger in the vehicle throwing up due to his own level of intoxication”
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Oct 30, 2019 04:54
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Petite Dinklage posted:I want him. Sexually. I’ve seen his dick
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Oct 30, 2019 04:55
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fishing with the fam posted:What I wouldn't give to briefly glimpse into the alternate reality where Mahomes is bad and injured on the Bears while Trubs is lighting it up every week on the chiefs. The reason Trubs is poo poo isn't because there is some curse on the Bears, it is because the Chicago Bears as an organization are terrible at evaluating quarterbacks. Trubs has the problem of lovely judgement, the worst problem for a quarterback to have because it can only be fixed by changing how they think. For most good rookies time and experience do this, but it hasn't hapoened yet for Trubs. Trubs could surprise me and get better, but some of those judgement calls... they're REALLY bad.
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Oct 30, 2019 05:30
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I’m excited for Trubisky to end up in the XFL, light it up because the quality of competition is soooooooooo much lower and hear “the Bears really screwed up letting XFL Hall of Famer Mitchell Trubisky go” takes for the rest of our lives.
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Oct 30, 2019 06:06
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The Bears are not in cap hell but not awash in space, with holes to fill and guys to pay. Sure the Bears can end up with $10-15M to pay a middling QB, but there's not much chance of getting anyone who might be available who would command $20-35M in salary (by FA or trade this would be Jameis, Rivers, Bridgewater/Brees, Mariota, Minshew/Foles, Dalton, Newton/Allen). Bears will be looking at guys like Flacco, Matt Moore, Keenum who are not a definitive upgrade.
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Oct 30, 2019 07:26
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/adamjahns/status/1189189301034110976 Having a "want-to" attitude is a pretty great backhanded compliment.
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Oct 30, 2019 14:56
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Like imagine you had a co-worker who tried very hard but was so incompetent he prevented anyone in your office from getting work done. They'd be out on their rear end.
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Oct 30, 2019 15:10
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Like imagine you had a co-worker who tried very hard but was so incompetent he prevented anyone in your office from getting work done. They'd be out on their rear end. uh have you actually worked in corporate america because
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brugroffil posted:uh have you actually worked in corporate america because I'm talking about the entire company. Cause that's what having a bad QB is like.
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Oct 30, 2019 15:34
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Man, the Lions really wanted a running back. https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1189546887822614528?s=19
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Oct 30, 2019 16:06
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DoctaFun posted:Has anyone posted about Jayron Kearse’s arrest details? 5 misdemeanors 
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schmitty9800 posted:The Bears are not in cap hell but not awash in space, with holes to fill and guys to pay. Sure the Bears can end up with $10-15M to pay a middling QB, but there's not much chance of getting anyone who might be available who would command $20-35M in salary (by FA or trade this would be Jameis, Rivers, Bridgewater/Brees, Mariota, Minshew/Foles, Dalton, Newton/Allen). Bears will be looking at guys like Flacco, Matt Moore, Keenum who are not a definitive upgrade. Lot of assumptions here that aren't necessarily true. There are all different kinds of ways to get new quarterbacks- free agency, trade, the draft, etc. Moreover, there's all different kinds of ways to free up cap space. Josh Rosen is still on a rookie deal and possibly could be had for a draft pick, and there's in general a bunch of reshuffling of quarterbacks coming up. Then there's the draft itself with a bunch of higher level quarterbacks and plenty of others as well. I daresay it'd be possible for the Bears to find something better than Trubs if they put their minds to it. Doesn't seem like that's happening, at least no yet C-Euro posted:Having a "want-to" attitude is a pretty great backhanded compliment. Yep. Basically he's being a good little boy and saying all the right things. The only problem is he doesn't play quarterback well True, several of those are surely felonies. What a dumbass, and that goes for Mike Hughes too
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I don't hate Mitch, and if he was playing any position other than quarterback I'd honestly be down for giving him more time to develop. But quarterback is too important a position to gently caress around with.
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I love the Bears management going "Yeah, he's bad, but he works real hard. You can be anything you want to be if you put your mind to it."
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schmitty9800 posted:The Bears are not in cap hell but not awash in space, with holes to fill and guys to pay. Sure the Bears can end up with $10-15M to pay a middling QB, but there's not much chance of getting anyone who might be available who would command $20-35M in salary (by FA or trade this would be Jameis, Rivers, Bridgewater/Brees, Mariota, Minshew/Foles, Dalton, Newton/Allen). Bears will be looking at guys like Flacco, Matt Moore, Keenum who are not a definitive upgrade. It's worse than I thought https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/10/28/20936993/the-starting-11-bears-falcons-jets-broncos-browns-disappointment quote:Chicago has eight players set to make at least $10 million in 2020, and after Pace converted $13 million of Khalil Mack’s salary this offseason to free up cap space, his cap hit next season will be a whopping $26.6 million. As it stands, the Bears are projected to be about $6 million under the cap. There are a few logical cuts that Pace can make this offseason to free up space (injured guard Kyle Long, 30-year-old cornerback Prince Amukamara, and kick returner Cordarrelle Patterson all come to mind), but without any clear in-house replacements on the roster, Chicago will have to do something to offset those losses. Then there are the pending free agents to consider. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Danny Trevathan, and useful contributors like Roy Robertson-Harris and Nick Williams are all set to hit the open market this offseason, and the Bears have little financial recourse to replace or re-sign them. And after trading their 2020 first- and third-round picks to Oakland for Mack last year and sending a fourth-round pick to New England to move up for Montgomery this spring, the Bears lack the draft capital to address their needs with cheap, young talent. 30 Million dollars for Trubisky is the definition of insanity.
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That's sad. That amazing defense is probably going to be broken up before they can really accomplish anything (besides winning the NFC North last year I guess). One wrong decision can haunt a team for a long time, and that's what Trubisky was
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Play posted:That's sad. That amazing defense is probably going to be broken up before they can really accomplish anything (besides winning the NFC North last year I guess). One wrong decision can haunt a team for a long time, and that's what Trubisky was It wasn't one wrong decision though. It was a consequence of going all in on this team. They traded away the future for a chance at winning now while their QB was still 'cheap' and gambled everything on this window. 3 1st round draft picks, 1 second round pick, 2 3rds, a 4th and a 6th for 2 players is a gamble. What you're seeing is the consequnece of when that doesn't work out. The Rams are the best case scenario of this strategy - and the seahwaks sort of did this too years ago although not to this extent. It's a fairly new phenomenon in the NFL. Until a few years ago most GMs wouldn't blow it all on a narrow 2-3 year window because they feared the consequences after that window ended. Previously teams tried to be like the 'model' NFL franchises - the Patriots, Packers, Steelers, etc who seemingly are competitive every year. But they did that by hoarding draft picks and resources and tacking very calculated risks. In comparision the Rams & Bears got drunk and blew their checking account in one night out. We're about to see those consequences for the Bears. I'm curious what the Rams reckoning is going to look like too. adaz fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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adaz posted:It wasn't one wrong decision though. It was a consequence of going all in on this team. They traded away the future for a chance at winning now while their QB was still 'cheap' and gambled everything on this window. 31st round draft picks, 1 second round pick, 2 3rds, a 4th and a 6th for 2 players is a gamble. What you're seeing is the consequnece of when that doesn't work out. The Rams are the best case scenario of this strategy - and the seahwaks sort of did this too years ago although not to this extent. It's a fairly new phenomenon in the NFL. Until a few years ago most GMs wouldn't blow it all on a narrow 2-3 year window because they feared the consequences after that window ended. Previously teams tried to be like the 'model' NFL franchises - the Patriots, Packers, Steelers, etc who seemingly are competitive every year. But they did that by hoarding draft picks and resources and tacking very calculated risks. In comparision the Rams & Bears got drunk and blew their checking account in one night out. That's all correct, but also making a different decision in that spot would've been enough to change everything. Even people at the time people thought Watson and Mahomes had more promise, and you have to wonder if Trubisky's whiteness wasn't something they gave him extra points for. If they had taken either of those dudes their plan would basically be working right now
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Play posted:That's all correct, but also making a different decision in that spot would've been enough to change everything. Even people at the time people thought Watson and Mahomes had more promise, and you have to wonder if Trubisky's whiteness wasn't something they gave him extra points for. If they had taken either of those dudes their plan would basically be working right now it wasn't just Bears evaluation, lots of scouts/draft "experts" had Trubisky ranked clearly ahead of Mahomes and typically on par or ahead of Watson. Why? What did they think they saw in the 13 games the guy had played since high school since he couldn't win the starting job at football powerhouse UNC?
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