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hey guys great news! i just got greenlit for my trilogy of Rose-centric star wars movies edit: kathleen fired me 
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An Ounce of Gold posted:I wonder if Disney hired D&D just so Netflix would steal them and be stuck with lovely writers. This wacky speculation is fuelled by me thinking of why Stallone did Stop or My Mom Will Shoot. if there's a funny story here you have to tell us. or my mom will shoot
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Oct 29, 2019 22:59
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:if there's a funny story here you have to tell us. or my mom will shoot Just a Hollywood story that Arnold let it slip to Sly that he was going to do that movie so Stallone snatched it up first. It was all just a ruse during their rivalry to get Stallone to do a lovely movie. It worked and it's hilarious. Here I googled it: https://screenrant.com/schwarzenegger-tricked-stallone-stop-or-my-mom-will-shoot/ I can imagine Disney doing the same thing to Netflix knowing that they were building Disney+ to be their rival. Imagine letting it slip in the boardroom when they were buddy buddy with Netflix that they were getting the GoT guys before announcing Disney+. All I know is that someone at Disney is cracking up laughing today knowing that Netflix has to give D&D $200 million. An Ounce of Gold fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Oct 29, 2019 |
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Oct 29, 2019 23:24
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An Ounce of Gold posted:Netflix has to give D&D $200 million.  (Though really we need a :nepotism: emote)
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Oct 30, 2019 00:53
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lofi posted:Though really we need a :nepotism: emote
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Oct 30, 2019 00:59
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Rutibex posted:at this point i pretty much feel if it isn't directed by Geroge Lucas than it isn't star wars. started feeling this shortly after TFA came out tbh I mean I get some enjoyment out of the sequels still, but they're not the same
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Oct 30, 2019 02:03
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Bedlamdan posted:I’m pretty sure Benioff and Weiss quit because Netflix gave them a better offer. And given Disney+ is a Netflix competitor, they were probably mutually exclusive. I seriously doubt Disney would just have let them walk, given that contracts were (presumably) signed that prevented them from also working for a direct competitor. And they certainly wouldn't just have given them a "get out of jail free" clause in their contract that didn't involve some significant compensation back to Disney. Or at least I would hope so, it's becoming pretty clear that Disney is run by morons like most any other large corporation these days. My guess is that they were fired for being idiots, but Disney is already catching a shitload of flak for how they've been bumbling the SW franchise, and decided to PR it up to look as amicable as possible. Which is ironic given that D&D are pretty much universally disliked after how they themselves hosed up the end of GoT, so nobody would have blamed Disney if they just announced they were shitcanned.
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Oct 30, 2019 02:37
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Those guys burned through GoT simply so they could work on Star Wars faster. Disney fired them because of their disastrous QnA session.
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Oct 30, 2019 03:12
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Word from behind the scenes (allegedly) is that D&D weren’t fired and actually left on good terms, and it’s more of a Netflix vs. Disney issue. LucasFilm hasn’t really shied away from the fact that they let people go in the past anyway, and if they were fired for the bad Q&A we wouldn’t have heard about it yet. Of course, it would make sense if they actually were let go though. Just take a look at some of the leaked pages from the first draft of their script:  
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Oct 30, 2019 07:32
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That's like a joke but not as funny
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Oct 30, 2019 08:31
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Star Wars 9/11 hell yeah
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Oct 30, 2019 08:32
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Oct 30, 2019 09:40
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:Word from behind the scenes (allegedly) is that D&D weren’t fired and actually left on good terms, and it’s more of a Netflix vs. Disney issue. LucasFilm hasn’t really shied away from the fact that they let people go in the past anyway, and if they were fired for the bad Q&A we wouldn’t have heard about it yet. This could be a real scene. Just you wait.
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Oct 30, 2019 13:35
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scene 2: captain kiirk enters stage right
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Oct 30, 2019 13:45
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Mozi posted:scene 2: captain kiirk enters stage right Uh, I think we've established that there cannot be cool, good, or well-written things in Disney Star Wars. Kirk has three strikes right there.
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Oct 30, 2019 15:32
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Horizon Burning posted:Those guys burned through GoT simply so they could work on Star Wars faster. Disney fired them because of their disastrous QnA session. I don't feel that's how television production schedules work but I'm not an expert
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Oct 30, 2019 15:35
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Empty Sandwich posted:The first time I remember Empire being discussed as the best was in Clerks, viz: Basically this. It really is more of a secret handshake. Star Wars - Too optimistic, too straightforward. Empire - So dark, like my Livejournal. ROTJ - Death bears and some eyeroll moments like the Tarzan yell. If you're a "serious" film fan you have to pick Empire. That continues to this day. The public as a whole has a high opinion of all 3, plus or minus some dropbear jokes. AlBorlantern Corps posted:I don't feel that's how television production schedules work but I'm not an expert The last season of GoT was not a normal schedule.
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Oct 30, 2019 15:40
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Disney should buy star trek imo
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Colonel Cancer posted:Disney should buy star trek imo the world is ready for Star Trek vs The Xmen movie. make it happen disney
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Oct 30, 2019 15:44
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Do you know what happens to a toad when it gets transported with a scrambled beam
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Oct 30, 2019 16:03
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Same thing that happens to anything else  Riker probably fucks it
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Oct 30, 2019 16:05
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Love characters in my movies that get no characterization at all. I would not have remembered the name if it wasn't in the poster.
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Oct 30, 2019 16:18
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I don't want to jump on the hate train for the first prominent female Asian American character in a Star War too hard, but she needed an arc. She starts out as a starry-eyed optimist and ends up as one. You can introduce a supporting character in the second one and have them memorable and cool, they just need more texture. Lando is the best analog, introduced as a supporting character in the sequel, and they did a much better job. He works because what screen time they have giving him complex and conflicting motivations. He's caught in an impossible situation doing what's right for his people at the cost of his old friend, the coercion of the Empire, and trying to mitigate the harm on all sides. In the modest amount of screen time he gets you really get a sense of a real person inhabiting the universe. Rose is a star struck do-gooder who gets slightly disillusioned but stays the course and doesn't change or face a challenge to her underlying character. The biggest loss she experiences occurs before we even meet her! I'm not sure how I'd change it but she needed like 1 or 2 more angles/dimensions to be compelling.
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Oct 30, 2019 16:42
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e.g. she dies trying to save finn from sacrificing himself
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Oct 30, 2019 16:45
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Not even like "kill her off she suxx lol" but maybe, IDK her sister dies a bit AFTER we meet her and she has an actual crisis of faith her unshakable pluck she has to overcome. She has a kidnapped brother conscripted into the new order she has to face on Snoke's ship and realizse that she can't save them in spite of her universal love and has to deal with that. I'm not a screenwriter but I know characters need more tension and dimensionality to be compelling.
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Oct 30, 2019 16:51
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Also she's like, a mechanic or something right? Maybe she should have done exactly one mechanical thing
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Oct 30, 2019 16:55
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You guys are putting far more thought into this than the real writers, who just turned out a few broad archetypes sans weaknesses and cashed the check
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Oct 30, 2019 17:03
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Hitlersaurus Christ posted:Word from behind the scenes (allegedly) is that D&D weren’t fired and actually left on good terms, and it’s more of a Netflix vs. Disney issue. LucasFilm hasn’t really shied away from the fact that they let people go in the past anyway, and if they were fired for the bad Q&A we wouldn’t have heard about it yet. not as funny as the fake script pages where a drunk han solo and a burned-out luke skywalker walk into a bar and wind up blinding a guy but god drat i cannot seem to loving find that on the internet
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Oct 30, 2019 17:18
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:Also she's like, a mechanic or something right? Maybe she should have done exactly one mechanical thing Didn't she dick with the doors when Finn was being wacca-wacca cowardly black sidekick?
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Oct 30, 2019 17:19
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Kazak posted:You guys are putting far more thought into this than the real writers, The Sentinelese are a stone-age tribe living off the coast of India who have had virtually no contact with the modern, outside world. . . they have put more thought into the writing of Star Wars than anyone Disney is paying to actually write Star Wars.
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Oct 30, 2019 17:21
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lofi posted:Didn't she dick with the doors when Finn was being wacca-wacca cowardly black sidekick? I thought they had to get Joaquin Phoenix for that, Antonio Banderas, whoever the gently caress it was
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Oct 30, 2019 17:29
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Benicio Del Toro got a paycheck for TLJ lmfao
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Oct 30, 2019 17:30
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AlBorlantern Corps posted:I thought they had to get Joaquin Phoenix for that, Antonio Banderas, whoever the gently caress it was Nah, right at the start when Finn was loving up escaping and she was all "Hey how dare you go awol oh ok then"
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Oct 30, 2019 17:36
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finns character arc is a bit weird because he gets over the coward part in the 1st movie and then in the 2nd he tries to hijack a escape pod. i think the explanation is that he's trying to save his friends because of a... tracking device?? i honestly don't remember.
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Oct 30, 2019 17:39
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Modern movies have to be as bland and inoffensive as possible so as to not run the risk of discouraging even a single person from paying money to see it, as well to not trigger the chinese into rising up and overthrowing their government.
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Oct 30, 2019 17:41
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skasion posted:Benicio Del Toro got a paycheck for TLJ lmfao Benny, you're a bad guy in disguise, can you add any sort of affectation so our moron audience can follow along? Del Toro: "🐍"
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Oct 30, 2019 17:41
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For some bizarre reason they can't find much to do with Finn A brainwashed child soldier who has seen his friends/fellow soldiers die which causes him to defect to a rebel group bent on destroying them. I'm not sure any of that plays in to TLJ at all, he's just "a dude" as far as I can remember. If you just watched episode 8 (and 9 I'm predicting), you would have no idea he was anything other than "a dude in the rebel Alliance"
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Oct 30, 2019 17:43
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I suspect the reason Finn's such a loving mess of a character is because Boyega was hard miscast in the role and rather than try to make him tone down his natural enthusiasm and charm to fit the traumatized child soldier traitor background, they just ran with it... which would be fine if they'd updated the origins of the character to reflect that. Instead you have a completely incoherent character whose limited functionality is entirely down to Boyega being engaging enough to make you momentarily forget about who the character is supposed to be Of course it's also possible that Finn was like this from the inception and they were just cowards who wanted something as edgy as an ex-child soldier in their movie but didn't have the guts to go all-in and portray that character in anything approaching an honest way Yaldabaoth posted:Modern movies have to be as bland and inoffensive as possible so as to not run the risk of discouraging even a single person from paying money to see it, as well to not trigger the chinese into rising up and overthrowing their government. Cmon this is really reductive They're also bland so that failson studio execs can evade being held responsible by their bosses if a movie flops since there will be nothing truly distinctive to point to to be like "look at this loving dumb idea you had, you're fired" TheIncredulousHulk fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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Oct 30, 2019 17:57
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Finn has an ok arc in TFA, in that he starts out a total pussy who just wants to run away from his life and all his problems. The movie doesn’t go to any effort to explain how he came by this attitude as a child soldier, but it kind of works out, he has a moment at the end where he finally decides to stop running and predictably Kylo beats the poo poo out of him but y’know. Thought that counts. In TLJ he’s no longer a total pussy exactly, just kind of a passenger. He’s on the rebels boat because he has nowhere else to go, he joins the away team to planet casino because agajskfjahagdkfk and that convinces him that actually, rich people are bad and it’s worth fighting and dying to confront the First Order. So he goes out there ready to die sacrificially only in the end he doesn’t need to die and his sacrifice ends up being a moot point. Stop me if you’ve heard this one. It’s just a recapitulation of his arc in TFA. He didn’t seriously think he had a chance in a duel against Kylo, he was ready to die then and there. They’re spinning their wheels with him. You watch, I bet it will happen a third time in TROS.
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piratepilates posted:For some bizarre reason they can't find much to do with Finn the new star wars greatest sin is their blandness. they could have gone in a million very interesting directions with this universe, but they chose the most dull and uninteresting story possible. its like one of those decorative hollow plastic fruits. it looks nice from a distance but if you try to eat it there is nothing but air
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