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Pochoclo posted:loving megalol if Theresa "literal immigrant concentration camps" May thinks you're being a ghoul People do tend to forget that the leader of the Tories is usually the most charismatic person they have. That's not a compliment to the leader.
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Coohoolin posted:Here's a thing, I reckon some of you might enjoy checking out my mates' new shop of queer punk merchandise. If you do, fancy giving them a like and a share on facebook. Eyeing up the abolish the monarchy shirt myself. Thanks, this is exactly the sort of thing I've been looking for
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Vlex posted:I don't know where to post this but just wanted to say that I've been offered a lectureship (i.e. a semblance of permanence in the rocky, lovely world of academia) doing what I love and I'm totally stunned. Lectureships have always been something that happen to other people. Congrats!
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Scikar posted:They did. I wouldn't blame anyone for not remembering but May pulled in 2.4 million more voters than Cameron managed in 2015. The political bubble has conveniently forgotten this in order to avoid giving Corbyn any credit, thus it is retconned to May being so terrible that people didn't want to vote for her. Yet she got almost as high a vote share as Blair did in 1997, and you'll be hard pressed to find political commentators claiming that Blair in 1997 putting people off. This is why any analysis that blindly claims Johnson will automatically do better than May is flawed. Who exactly were these voters who didn't vote for May when her numbers went up, and why would they vote for Johnson in greater numbers than those leaving the Conservative party because they can't stand him? Cf Pissflaps' OP in his parallel thread, where he hints at this interpretation in his Labour writeup - that being the closest he is able to get to neutrality. It is amusing how Flaps has carefully skirted the rules in a laughably transparent way. He's the Boris Johnson of UKMT. Perhaps Corbyn will destroy him too 
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I'm a bit torn to be honest, on the one hand, to me he just sounds like a raving lunatic. On the other hand, so does trump, and people seem to like him. Like he just comes across as a fat oafish bully but there's a lot of them in the UK and I don't know whether it will put people off?
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Vlex posted:I don't know where to post this but just wanted to say that I've been offered a lectureship (i.e. a semblance of permanence in the rocky, lovely world of academia) doing what I love and I'm totally stunned. Lectureships have always been something that happen to other people. Congrats!
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Tory MPs still the idiot bullies they were at Eton shocker.
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Vlex posted:I don't know where to post this but just wanted to say that I've been offered a lectureship (i.e. a semblance of permanence in the rocky, lovely world of academia) doing what I love and I'm totally stunned. Lectureships have always been something that happen to other people. Welcome to the REF 2021 motherfucker
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OwlFancier posted:I'm a bit torn to be honest, on the one hand, to me he just sounds like a raving lunatic. On the other hand, so does trump, and people seem to like him. Trump was very racist and came across as a lunatic but also told workers they were being hosed over while Clinton didn't even bother to campaign in their states
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Darth Walrus posted:Dick Braine pulls out. bahahahaha just in time for votemas
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Aidan_702 posted:Welcome to the REF 2021 motherfucker I know plenty about the REF and the TEF, to my chagrin
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Just had possibly the most 'lib dem' Lib Dem flyer ever received claiming: -Lib dems are winning here! (they placed 3rd in 2017, 10k votes behind our lab bloke, who was 20k votes behind the winning tory). -They stormed home with 40% of the vote "the last time a local election was held" (meaning the most recent local council elections in this ward). -Their candidate will stop the Tories (he would know as he was one until about 6 weeks ago) and is a proven election winner (as a Tory). - The eagle eye'd or even regular eye'd would also spot that he is actually standing as the candidate for a neighbouring constituency. The balls of it is just incredible. Rustybear fucked around with this message at 14:09 on Oct 30, 2019 |
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Jose posted:Trump was very racist and came across as a lunatic but also told workers they were being hosed over while Clinton didn't even bother to campaign in their states she literally had "America is Already Great" as a slogan lmao
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Pochoclo posted:loving megalol if Theresa "literal immigrant concentration camps" May thinks you're being a ghoul Doccykins posted:almost certainly, it's the same green as the Grenfell remembrance campaign
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Rustybear posted:While you're not wrong, it's not as simple as that. For example despite getting 2.4 million less votes Cameron had a working majority in 2015 while May lost seats. I'm not saying that somehow May was a secret winner or deserved to keep her majority or anything. But anyone who wants to explain the 2017 result by saying people didn't want to vote for May needs to explain how her vote share went up in that case before their analysis is worth anything.
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Jose posted:I saw a really good series of tweets about how the LRB is incredibly institutionally racist but can't remember who they were from This is a very good thread and I recommend reading all of it. It's 7 tweets, so it's quite succinct.
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Jo Swindon pushing on the Farronist line of BWEKKKSIT and nothing else. God I want that seat lost.
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Jose posted:Trump was very racist and came across as a lunatic but also told workers they were being hosed over while Clinton didn't even bother to campaign in their states Sure, but he also has a contigent of people who actually just love his racism and insane rambling. And I wonder how different they are from our rapidly going senile ancient racist rear end in a top hat contingent at home. The "make me and my children destitute for no reason" demographic. Though, I guess, perhaps those sorts always vote tory anyway.
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OwlFancier posted:Sure, but he also has a contigent of people who actually just love his racism and insane rambling. And I wonder how different they are from our rapidly going senile ancient racist rear end in a top hat contingent at home. The "make me and my children destitute for no reason" demographic. He also relied on Clinton suppressing turnout because she was the most unpopular candidate ever fielded. She still won the popular vote by 3 million and lost because the electoral college is gerrymandering to infinity and beyond.
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Doccykins posted:i know its the lib dems but boris calling them all hypocrites in the chamber is almost certainly unparliamentary language 
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Doccykins posted:i know its the lib dems but boris calling them all hypocrites in the chamber is almost certainly unparliamentary language I'm really looking forward to every time Swindon goes on TV she's asked about why she demanded an in-out referendum in parliament back in 2008.
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Tesseraction posted:He also relied on Clinton suppressing turnout because she was the most unpopular candidate ever fielded. Voter suppression on black people in Madison WI was so severe it could well have accounted for the margin he won the state by
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Did Corbyn choose this particularly.. vibrant.. green tie to goad the tories into doing exactly this? Sneaky Corbyn tricks Tory MPs into looking like heartless monsters By Daily Mail Reporter
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Doccykins posted:well that's the Crosby chip booting up Yes, moving all of these things back would be generally a good thing.
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quote:Johnson was weak on the actual details of how the NHS works. But his attack lines against Corbyn - accusing him of sweeping anti-Americanism, and wholesale hostility to the involvement of private firms in the NHS (even though many NHS services are privately provided anyway - were much more powerful than anything Theresa May threw at Corbyn, and delivered with relish. Thanks, Guardian
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The graun: not even trying, at this point, to pretend they would prefer Corbyn to Johnson.
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Tesseraction posted:He also relied on Clinton suppressing turnout because she was the most unpopular candidate ever fielded. Braggart posted:Sneaky Corbyn tricks Tory MPs into looking like heartless monsters
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Coohoolin posted:Here's a thing, I reckon some of you might enjoy checking out my mates' new shop of queer punk merchandise. If you do, fancy giving them a like and a share on facebook. Eyeing up the abolish the monarchy shirt myself. Some great stuff here, and if I hadn't just finished my metal band patch jacket I'd have put some lovely anti-fascist slogans on there.
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Jose posted:Trump was very racist and came across as a lunatic but also told workers they were being hosed over while Clinton didn't even bother to campaign in their states ... and then those workers went third party or failed to show up (either due to disinterest or comically aggressive voter suppression). I ran the numbers on this, and Trump picked up about as many low-income voters as Romney the card-carrying, child-torturing vulture capitalist (in fact, if you factor in population growth, he lost poor voters in real terms). The problem was that Clinton bled poor votes to Jill Stein and gerrymandering, and while rich and middle-class voters managed to make up some of the difference, they didn't make up enough of it. Clinton ran a weak campaign, yes, and the Democrats were blindsided by the arsenal of dirty tricks Republicans obtained from their control of so many other branches of federal and state government, but the idea that Trump's pro-worker message has any real positive impact is revisionist history. Poor voters didn't buy it, and all he seems to have done is scare a few richer voters off to support Clinton.
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Vlex posted:I don't know where to post this but just wanted to say that I've been offered a lectureship (i.e. a semblance of permanence in the rocky, lovely world of academia) doing what I love and I'm totally stunned. Lectureships have always been something that happen to other people. I quiver with jealousy Although tbh I'm already so alienated and jaded with academia that I'm not sure I could summon up the willpower to do the job properly anymore. Seriously though, massive congratulations. Lectureships are a genuinely secure job. It takes an awful lot off my partner's mind to know that she's never going to be out of a job again (catastrophes of the near-future notwithstanding lol)
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A Buttery Pastry posted:It's not really gerrymandering when the borders don't change. If you gerrymandered them from their incarnation you don't need to change them while they're still working.
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