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Jfc how is Argentina having a more ordered election than everyone else (except Uruguay but they still have the runoff so who knows)
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Oct 29, 2019 01:31
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Boiling frog parable.
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Oct 29, 2019 01:57
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Is the government in Chile doubling down on their own stubborness?
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Oct 29, 2019 04:45
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https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1189207309223903232
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Oct 29, 2019 23:06
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Bolivia election: U.S. withholds recognition; Morales supporters and opposition clash as sides await OAS audit The same OAS that put out this statement recently: quote:The recent currents of destabilization of the political systems of the hemisphere have their origins in the strategy of the Bolivarian and Cuban dictatorships, which seek to reposition themselves once again, not through a process of re-institutionalization and re-democratization, but through their old methodology of exporting polarization and bad practices, to essentially finance, support and promote political and social conflict.
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Oct 30, 2019 01:58
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Morales is boned.
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Oct 30, 2019 04:40
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Nonsense posted:Morales is boned. Venezuela is much more vulnerable and the attempted right wing coup still failed the neolib saboteurs in bolivia immediately ruined their own lies about protecting democracy by burning ballot boxes, they don't seem very bright so far
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Oct 30, 2019 16:34
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RottenK posted:Venezuela is much more vulnerable and the attempted right wing coup still failed You keep insisting that it was a right wing coup attempt. I don't really think you want to argue things in good faith.
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Oct 30, 2019 16:57
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qnqnx posted:You keep insisting that it was a right wing coup attempt. But it was? You can argue that it was needed and just and good, and better than keeping Maduro. But most certainly it was a coup attempt
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Oct 30, 2019 17:05
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Elias_Maluco posted:But it was? Not sure why you keep calling Maduro's right wing coup against the constitutional order in Venezuela a mere "attempt", but OK.
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Oct 30, 2019 17:09
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Elias_Maluco posted:But it was? A right wing coup....with wide support from left wing parties. That actually was stretching thin constitutional law to find any way out to get Maduro out legally. Nah, not right wing, nor a coup.
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Oct 30, 2019 17:17
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qnqnx posted:A right wing coup....with wide support from left wing parties. That actually was stretching thin constitutional law to find any way out to get Maduro out legally. The Supreme Court said it was wasn’t legal tho. Wait is this gonna be the new VZ thread?
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Oct 30, 2019 17:38
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uninterrupted posted:The Supreme Court said it was wasn’t legal tho. The Supreme Court that everyone drat knew it was packed by Maduro's cronies. I don't want this to be the new VZ thread so please gently caress off forever.
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Oct 30, 2019 17:42
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qnqnx posted:The Supreme Court that everyone drat knew it was packed by Maduro's cronies. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the legitimacy of SCOTUS
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Oct 30, 2019 18:29
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I'm just gonna add that Dilma got impeached by a coalition that stretched constitutional law to get her out and I'm pretty comfortable calling that a coup anyway.
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Oct 30, 2019 20:49
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unwantedplatypus posted:I'd love to hear your thoughts on the legitimacy of SCOTUS Same people who parrot that crap unironically want the next democrat president to expand and pack the Supreme Court here. Politicizing the judiciary for me, not for thee.
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Oct 30, 2019 21:01
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qnqnx posted:You keep insisting that it was a right wing coup attempt. that's because it was a right wing coup attempt thankfully it went down in flames, as it deserved qnqnx posted:A right wing coup....with wide support from left wing parties. neoliberals are not left wing lol
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Oct 30, 2019 21:05
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unwantedplatypus posted:I'd love to hear your thoughts on the legitimacy of SCOTUS I'd love to hear your thoughts on things actually about Latin America. RottenK posted:that's because it was a right wing coup attempt "No trre scotsman", but applied to internationally recognized as socialist parties. gently caress outta here, nitwit.
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Oct 30, 2019 21:16
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qnqnx posted:"No trre scotsman", but applied to internationally recognized as socialist parties. "wow this cat is really weird looking" "that's a dog bro" ""No true scotsman", but applied to cats, gently caress outta here, nitwit" he's not saying they aren't true leftists, he's saying they aren't leftists at all. and if you're gonna invoke the socialust internatinal as the "international recognition" that's worthless since blair's labour was a full member
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Oct 30, 2019 21:22
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qnqnx posted:I'd love to hear your thoughts on things actually about Latin America. haha do you even know what "no true scotsman" means
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Oct 30, 2019 21:28
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Sure, all left-wing latin american parties either supported PSUV or criticized them as part of the left, but these gringo dipshits come in and  it's right wing, sure, you convinced me.Get the gently caress out of here idiots.
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Oct 30, 2019 21:29
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Do you even know what "right wing" means? Get out you two, I would tell you to come back after actually done some reading but it is clear that anything going against your narrative is fake news.
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Oct 30, 2019 21:32
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qnqnx posted:Do you even know what "right wing" means? right wing means you hate gay people left wing means you don't bingo bango bongo simple!
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Oct 30, 2019 21:42
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*barges in from the center of the room* People. People please! Hear me out. What if... everyone got out?
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Oct 30, 2019 21:45
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A coup supported by people like Trump and Bolsonaro has to be a right-wing coup imo
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Oct 30, 2019 21:57
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Doctor Jeep posted:right wing means you hate gay people left wing means you don't bingo bango bongo simple! You must be list, CSPAM is the forum for simplistic views like this one. Elias_Maluco posted:A coup supported by people like Trump and Bolsonaro has to be a right-wing coup imo They can support whatever, that does not mean that Maduro needed, and still needs, to be thrown out for the hundreds of other goid reasons. Gringos culiaos get out
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Oct 30, 2019 22:07
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qnqnx posted:You must be list, CSPAM is the forum for simplistic views like this one. I never said anything about Maduro needing to go out or not. Actually, I also believe he does Dont changes the fact it was a coup attempt, and a right-wing one. Thats all what I said above Also, Im brazilian, so cut the gringo bullshit But lets not have the Venezuela thread all over again, please. Thats all I have to say, anyway
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Oct 30, 2019 22:18
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Elias_Maluco posted:Dont changes the fact it was a coup attempt, and a right-wing one. Thats all what I said above You can say any bullshit you want, it does not make things any more real, you should know.
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Oct 30, 2019 22:27
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qnqnx posted:You can say any bullshit you want, it does not make things any more real, you should know. Hey who does the right wing millionaire blinding scores of your countrymen right now support, Guaido or Maduro?
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Oct 30, 2019 22:36
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qnqnx posted:You must be list, CSPAM is the forum for simplistic views like this one. "unlike your simple-minded ramblings, my posts are crafted from the finest thoughtmatter  "and they're still poo poo
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Oct 30, 2019 23:09
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Doctor Jeep posted:"unlike your simple-minded ramblings, my posts are crafted from the finest thoughtmatter At least I can see that two or more sides can be bad at the same time!
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Oct 30, 2019 23:10
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Dias posted:I'm just gonna add that Dilma got impeached by a coalition that stretched constitutional law to get her out and I'm pretty comfortable calling that a coup anyway. I'd actually argue that the Dilma thing bears more resemblance to the nonsense bullshit invalidation of the Venezuelan National Assembly by Team Maduro and, even more closely, the invalidation of candidates and coalitions running againdt Maduro for the presidency. The remedies for the Venezuelan opposition in late 2018 / early 2019 consisted of - Wobbly constitutionally fig leafed pseudo-coup to install Guaido and hold elections, or - Revolt without fig leaf (other than the amusing line in the Venezuelan constitution about how armed overthrow of a tyrant is constitutional  )they tried the former and ultimately fell flat on their incompetent faces, but I feel like the fig leaf was preferable to its absence?
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South America’s wretched month has been great for one man: Venezuela’s Maduro quote:“For years Washington and the Venezuelan opposition have said that Nicolás Maduro, and before him Hugo Chávez, were weak and about to fall ... but it’s clear that’s not the case,” he said. “The Donald Trump administration now understands that Maduro is a tough player, that [economic] sanctions and threats aren’t enough to make him run away.” Looks like South America's neoliberal assholes were so busy barking up Maduro's tree that they forgot to tend to matters domestically. Meanwhile, President Guaido is giving up on Trump and running hat in hand to Russia and China for help: quote:Teresa Belandria, whom Guaido appointed as Venezuela's envoy to Brazil earlier this year after declaring himself acting president, said the opposition leader has met with various Chinese delegations in the capital Caracas.
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Oct 30, 2019 23:24
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:South America’s wretched month has been great for one man: Venezuela’s Maduro I really really really want to see how you would respond if China somehow decided to back him
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Oct 30, 2019 23:25
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GreyjoyBastard posted:I really really really want to see how you would respond if China somehow decided to back him China wouldn't, because unlike Americans who treat world politics like a game of Victoria II they have had a pretty consistent foreign policy of not involving themselves in internal affairs of other countries.
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Oct 30, 2019 23:27
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qnqnx posted:At least I can see that two or more sides can be bad at the same time! so can others and they support the side they see as less bad why do I have to explain this very basic point to you, mr. "cspam is for simplistic views"
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Oct 30, 2019 23:45
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:China wouldn't, because unlike Americans who treat world politics like a game of Victoria II they have had a pretty consistent foreign policy of not involving themselves in internal affairs of other countries. I don't think Africa agrees with your view of things. Doctor Jeep posted:so can others and they support the side they see as less bad And if we can not agree, then I am afraid that you have failed to understand the barest basics of politics.
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Oct 31, 2019 00:06
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qnqnx posted:I don't think Africa agrees with your view of things. Which countries in Africa has China couped or installed a puppet in?
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CAPS LOCK BROKEN posted:Which countries in Africa has China couped or installed a puppet in? Africa is suffering from the insidious chinese plot of “building ports and roads for developing countries”, it’s truely a tragedy.
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