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Thom12255
Feb 23, 2013
WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY

Hav posted:

Details, details.


February 5th 2013
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/engineering/12879-Death-Of-A-Spaceman

Worth a read for the comparison to the progress they've achieved in six years.

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Jonny Shiloh
Mar 7, 2019
You 'orrible little man

JugbandDude posted:

I'm surprised they haven't taken this down like the other design pages. Like, 99% of this stuff is still inside CR's head only.

I have honestly never read that Death of a Spaceman garbage before. Wow, what a load of absolute A grade horse poo poo and even better, it's straight from the Crobbler's mouth which just adds to the hilarity of none of it ever having materialised 6 years later. Typos and all, it reads like something a 15 year old space nerd might have written during a particularly dull double maths lesson.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

JugbandDude posted:

I'm surprised they haven't taken this down like the other design pages. Like, 99% of this stuff is still inside CR's head only.

Well, most of the gibberish poo poo is procedural poo poo generated directly from Robert's mind.

Agony Aunt
Apr 17, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Jonny Shiloh posted:

I have honestly never read that Death of a Spaceman garbage before. Wow, what a load of absolute A grade horse poo poo and even better, it's straight from the Crobbler's mouth which just adds to the hilarity of none of it ever having materialised 6 years later. Typos and all, it reads like something a 15 year old space nerd might have written during a particularly dull double maths lesson.

Wow, so you never read the documents about mixing drinks for NPC passengers?

Agony Aunt
Apr 17, 2018

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

JugbandDude posted:

I'm surprised they haven't taken this down like the other design pages. Like, 99% of this stuff is still inside CR's head only.

AFAIK, while they have thrown out a lot of the old stuff (that they made $$$ from) Death of a Spaceman is still going to be a thing... i mean, out of all the mechanics that would gently caress me off the most, that one tops the list.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Mr. Carlisle posted:

A Jpeg being in concept for 5+ years is definitely not a huge red flag for a scam completely covered in red flags

To be fair nowadays you would need some sort of phosphorescent flashing red flag for it to be noticed in SC.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Jonny Shiloh posted:

I have honestly never read that Death of a Spaceman garbage before. Wow, what a load of absolute A grade horse poo poo and even better, it's straight from the Crobbler's mouth which just adds to the hilarity of none of it ever having materialised 6 years later. Typos and all, it reads like something a 15 year old space nerd might have written during a particularly dull double maths lesson.

It’s literally just a manic steam of consciousness from someone with mild autism, instead of a plan for an actual video game. I can’t imagine all the time and money wasted trying to make Chris’ moronic “vision” come to life; only to figure out its impossible in their broken CryEngine mod, then they just shove caves into the game and call it progress.

To be fair though, buried deep down in the poo poo pile that is SC are a few decent or interesting ideas. Like I could picture an interesting and fun realistic/hard sci-fi space sim along the lines of the Expanse, in which your both your spaceman and your ship is a complex simulation. But it would take really talented leadership and devs working in a custom engine to make it happen and make it actually fun.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Oct 30, 2019

zebedy
Feb 25, 2006
well?

colonelwest posted:

realistic/hard sci-fi space sim

I agree that such a game would be interesting, but the idea of Star Citizen being (or ever seriously trying to be) a sim is a myth. There is nothing realistic about jet fighters in space. These nerds want a game set in space, except they remove everything that would make it interesting (thinking about how space combat might actually work, proper gravity simulation, time dilation and traveling huge distances etc). For them, simulation is just a euphemism for "like Star Wars", but where you can listen to your high-poly Fascist bunkmate doing buggy motion-captured wanking while stationed off the moon of Rebus V or whatever the gently caress.

zebedy fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 30, 2019

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"

Hav posted:

quote:

The life and death of a Spaceman.

The Character creation screen will be done “in-fiction”. You’ll start the game in 1st person view looking at two bathroom doors – one with a male sign and one with a female sign. Which door you walk through will determine what sex you are when you walk into the washroom. Walking up to the mirror, you’ll see your reflection. Wiping the condensation off of the mirror with your hand (or some similar mechanic) will change / reveal your facial appearance.

TheAgent posted:

like at one point you're creating your character for sq42 (which is just the SC character creator basically, no one really knows what is going in what game at this point) and he wanted a scene where you stare at yourself in a mirror as you change poo poo (like fo4) but instead of just rendering the character model as a separate scene in the mirror with canned head movement he wanted some super crazy poo poo like mirroring the entire scene as you changed yourself into super "level 5" or whatever heads that slowed the entire scene to a crawl because you were loading some intense poo poo into vram because the loving bathroom you were in had multiple mirrors that crobbo all wanted reflected, even if you can't loving see it "

TheAgent posted:

now imagine trying to tell him "hey we don't need mirrors" and he responds with "BUT THERES loving MIRRORS IN THE SHIPS, THERES A MIRROR IN A SCENE I WROTE, I WROTE THAT SCENE AND THERE'S A loving MIRROR MORTY, THERE'S A MIRROR THERE AND I WANT TO SEE, I WANT TO SEE ME IN THAT MIRROR MORTY, I WANT TO SEE MY REFLECTION IN THAT loving MIRROR, I DON'T CARE HOW MANY loving CPU CYCLES IT TAKES UP OR IF A, A, A TITAN X CAN'T EVEN loving RENDER IT, I WANT IT MORTY, I WANT THAT loving MIRROR THERE"

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
Just saw this while I was back in 2017

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

It's not a matter of fulfilling EVERYONES wishes. It's about CI and not G unable to make the very game they have pitched and expanded on now for almost a decade with Jack and poo poo to show for it other than making Chris and Co unjustifiably wealthy.

zebedy
Feb 25, 2006
well?
Games › Star Citizen: Trust Me!

The Rabbi T. White
Jul 17, 2008






Willow says to have a spooky Halloween. And also that Star Citizen is the true horror.

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

Willow is both wise and scary.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

The Rabbi T. White posted:


Willow says to have a spooky Halloween. And also that Star Citizen is the true horror.

10/10 doggo, would give all the pets

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

Star Citizen: More red flags than China

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?

Kosumo posted:

Star Citizen: More red flags than China

An excellent new Star Citizen chapter could be Chris partnering with a Chinese game company to continue funding. Then they can start retrofitting the entire game to appeal to the Chinese gaming mindset, making an even bigger cash shop with thousands of new ships locked behind loot crates and gambling games. Eventually the game will be a phone app that will pit your ship against other ships like a Pokemon game. Then we can watch the backers defend all of this as what they paid for the whole time and even better than they hoped.

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

DapperDon posted:

It's not a matter of fulfilling EVERYONES wishes. It's about CI and not G unable to make the very game they have pitched and expanded on now for almost a decade with Jack and poo poo to show for it other than making Chris and Co unjustifiably wealthy.

How's your refund going?

Raskolnikov
Nov 25, 2003

Scruffpuff posted:

An excellent new Star Citizen chapter could be Chris partnering with a Chinese game company to continue funding. Then they can start retrofitting the entire game to appeal to the Chinese gaming mindset, making an even bigger cash shop with thousands of new ships locked behind loot crates and gambling games. Eventually the game will be a phone app that will pit your ship against other ships like a Pokemon game. Then we can watch the backers defend all of this as what they paid for the whole time and even better than they hoped.

It could run on a phone in just ten more years so this could happen.

Sabreseven
Feb 27, 2016

Pixelate posted:

Just saw this while I was back in 2017

The original "model" without the jankyness photoshopped in was like something you'd get out of a Christmas cracker, and not an expensive cracker, think more "Tesco value Xmas cracker". I mean, plastic green army men are far superior quality and they don't cost $12 a piece.

quote:

Makes an attractive display piece


My loving rear end lol.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Scruffpuff posted:

An excellent new Star Citizen chapter could be Chris partnering with a Chinese game company to continue funding. Then they can start retrofitting the entire game to appeal to the Chinese gaming mindset, making an even bigger cash shop with thousands of new ships locked behind loot crates and gambling games. Eventually the game will be a phone app that will pit your ship against other ships like a Pokemon game. Then we can watch the backers defend all of this as what they paid for the whole time and even better than they hoped.


CIG being bought in a fire sale by some Chinese conglomerate and turned into a video game sweatshop churning out lovely micro-transaction F2P MMO bullshit would be the best outcome we could hope for.

The entertainment would be so rich, that I’d be willing to fly to China on my own dime and make the sales pitch to Tencent myself. My entire presentation would just be a slideshow of quotes from SC whales bragging about how much money they’ve spent and how big their e-peens are.

colonelwest fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 30, 2019

Strangler 42
Jan 8, 2007

SHAVE IT ALL OFF
ALL OF IT

colonelwest posted:

CIG being bought in a fire sale by some Chinese conglomerate and turned into a video game sweatshop churning out lovely micro-transaction F2P MMO bullshit would be the best outcome we could hope for.

The entertainment would be so rich, that I’d be willing to fly to China on my own dime and make the sales pitch to Tencent myself. My entire presentation would just be a slideshow of quotes from SC whales bragging about how much money they’ve spent and how big their e-peens are.

5 fully functional, fully staffed development studios could fetch enough cash for a nice vacation home in the Caymans

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
Free fly seems kind of tame, streamer pimping aside. Some stuff about though...






Mirificus
Oct 29, 2004

Kings need not raise their voices to be heard
https://twitter.com/Lukas_Genever/status/1189594969323069440

"Here's how it's possible"


"If that interests you"

Mirificus fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Oct 30, 2019

DapperDon
Sep 7, 2016

Colostomy Bag posted:

How's your refund going?

Just waiting for Don Karnage to get back to me with that Refund Specialist.












































































just any day now.

XK
Jul 9, 2001

Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

Must already have experience developing server mesh technologies.

Sarsapariller
Aug 14, 2015

Occasional vampire queen

Mirificus posted:

"If that interests you"


job offer for like 60% of the average pay for a position

Gosh I wonder why they can't get any developers :thunk:

Pixelate
Jan 6, 2018

"You win by having fun"
I thought network guys were gold dust? Isn't a £40k baseline offer a bit lowball for a senior position?

(Also that position says applications were by June latest. At least just put up a fresh ad like the old days. Recruitment guy needs better coffee.)

Cool Post Beg
Mar 6, 2008

DADDY MAGIC
they loving did it! #4 stream on twitch baby!!



i tune in and he's lasering a rock talking about how much this poo poo sucks lol

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

beggar posted:



i tune in and he's lasering a rock talking about how much this poo poo sucks lol

Bingo:

Lasering a rock

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

quote:

Closing date: 4th June 2019

Nice to see the hiring push is every bit as on-schedule as the rest of the project...

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

beggar posted:

they loving did it! #4 stream on twitch baby!!



i tune in and he's lasering a rock talking about how much this poo poo sucks lol

Lirik & gang's comments after closing Star Citizen are great :v:

https://clips.twitch.tv/CreativeSpookySushiMoreCowbell

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development


:lol:

Mr.PayDay
Jan 2, 2004
life is short - play hard

“good for exposure “
Yes, exactly lmao

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
https://twitter.com/RobertsSpaceInd/status/1189670943326519296


Once again tapping the rich vein of Chris Roberts's imagination with the timeless character of "Old Jegger."

fargom
Mar 21, 2007

Sarsapariller posted:

job offer for like 60% of the average pay for a position

Gosh I wonder why they can't get any developers :thunk:

LMAO yeah, 65k funny money is like what, 85k USD? For a senior C++ dev with management experience? What the gently caress is that poo poo.

Dementropy
Aug 23, 2010



MMORPG: Star Citizen Free Fly Event Going On Now

No Max Bacon in the comments?
No Erillion?

Attrition takes its toll on even the best community members.

Sanya Juutilainen
Jun 19, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Remember when CIG fidelized all the clothes to no end, carefully by hand?

Too bad it won't be needed soon, it seems, so it's a wasted development time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atcKO15YVD8

Kosumo
Apr 9, 2016

Sledge Roberts: Trust Me, I Know What I'm Doing*

















*Having you fund the game in my head; which is me directing Hollywood actors, flying first class, driving porches, having my own cult of personality, buying a mansion, being steve jobs, I'm on a boat, paying myself with your money for things I thought of before you gave me your money, absolving myself of some stuff, having a convention to con citizens out of more money that I call Citizencon, selling off 10% of the company that you funded for my own profit, gently caress you/got mine - I'm a winner. - that's the true Chris Roberts BDSSE.

Kosumo fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Oct 31, 2019

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UnknownTarget
Sep 5, 2019

zebedy posted:

I agree that such a game would be interesting, but the idea of Star Citizen being (or ever seriously trying to be) a sim is a myth. There is nothing realistic about jet fighters in space. These nerds want a game set in space, except they remove everything that would make it interesting (thinking about how space combat might actually work, proper gravity simulation, time dilation and traveling huge distances etc). For them, simulation is just a euphemism for "like Star Wars", but where you can listen to your high-poly Fascist bunkmate doing buggy motion-captured wanking while stationed off the moon of Rebus V or whatever the gently caress.

This is something that really bothers me. They swing between trying to be realistic but absolutely nothing in the game is. "Oh you can't do that because the lore/physics/whatever" "We also have magic gravity goo and spaceships behave like WW2 fighters". This lack of internal consistency pollutes everything, from the narrative to the ship designs. Notice how some have thrusters and others don't? RCS thrusters are gimbaled (pretty dumb idea and dumb looking to boot) rather than fixed? Ship layouts don't make any sense, nothing in this game consistently makes sense because all it is is a mix of ideas from better properties.

Sarsapariller posted:

job offer for like 60% of the average pay for a position

Gosh I wonder why they can't get any developers :thunk:

40,000 pounds = $51,000 USD. That's like...$2k above entry level for an artist in a major city, according to my staff salaries. For a senior network programmer. This is actually hilarious.

UnknownTarget fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Oct 31, 2019

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