USPOL Fall: Biden the hand that feeds you

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FuturePastNow: May 19, 2014

GreyjoyBastard posted:

it came up last time but i would like to note that despite advancements in tailoring technology Taft was INFINITELY more dapper than Donald Trump, because he accepted that he was fat and had his tailor make him look good, rather than focusing on trying to look less-fat

Repostin' Fat President:

Work with what you've got. Taft also eventually lost a lot of that weight.

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EwokEntourage: Jun 10, 2008; BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

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Taft weighed 350+, wore a 3 piece plus everything else, and lived before air conditioning in a swamp

Still probably smelled better than trump

# ? Oct 31, 2019 05:46

InsertPotPun: Apr 16, 2018; Pissy Bitch stan

BiggerBoat posted:

Nope. In Trumpland it has to be "perfect" and repeated constantly. A PERFECT Phone Call.

lol having a third grade vocabulary helped the president get elected! loving excellent.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 05:51

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

EwokEntourage posted:

Taft weighed 350+, wore a 3 piece plus everything else, and lived before air conditioning in a swamp

Still probably smelled better than trump

Trump probably smells like what you would imagine the Platonic idea of Tiredness smells like, if such a thing were to have a smell. And he smells like it constantly.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 05:52

Amazing Zimmo: Jan 27, 2006; That's quite a load you got in them diapers

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1189667101079932928

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1189731855752482822

https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1189732605383630850

# ? Oct 31, 2019 05:53

Mr. Fall Down Terror: Jan 24, 2018; by Fluffdaddy

nine-gear crow posted:

Trump probably smells like what you would imagine the Platonic idea of Tiredness smells like, if such a thing were to have a smell. And he smells like it constantly.

magic smoke and stale potatoes

# ? Oct 31, 2019 05:54

Amazing Zimmo: Jan 27, 2006; That's quite a load you got in them diapers

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1189722406170103808

# ? Oct 31, 2019 05:56

bobjr: Oct 16, 2012; Roose is loose.
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Don Jr. just wished he got the same respect as a photoshopped dog

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:11

Goatse James Bond: Mar 28, 2010; If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

FuturePastNow posted:

Repostin' Fat President:

Work with what you've got. Taft also eventually lost a lot of that weight.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:12

Rust Martialis: May 8, 2007; by Fluffdaddy
(and can't post for 5 days!)

William Howard Taft, the song

https://youtu.be/p0SigntobjE

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:19

thin blue whine: Feb 21, 2004; PLEASE SEE POLICY; Soiled Meat

Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1189722406170103808

i'm seeing a bunch of boomer-funny photoshops of the dog getting the medal looking like they're meant to "trigger libs"

did anyone do anything other than go "wow kind of disrespectful to the guy actually getting the medal" or "lol the wheels keep coming off his brain what a weird thing to do"?

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:27

alpha_destroy: Mar 23, 2010; Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night

It's so wonderful the Nats won. I know he won't see this, but I wish he does.

https://twitter.com/xmasape/status/1189770384645787648?s=09

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:44

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

Strange Poon posted:

i'm seeing a bunch of boomer-funny photoshops of the dog getting the medal looking like they're meant to "trigger libs"

did anyone do anything other than go "wow kind of disrespectful to the guy actually getting the medal" or "lol the wheels keep coming off his brain what a weird thing to do"?

And yet they'd lose their poo poo if they ever saw Tribute.wmv

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:48

Party Plane Jones: Jul 1, 2007; by Reene; Fun Shoe

https://twitter.com/carolleonnig/status/1189737412899020802?s=21

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:52

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

SchrodingersCat posted:

So, he's going to be 21st century Taft with a dash of Hoover, basically?

I think it far more likely that Trump is going to be known as the start of a long slide into an oligarchy followed by bloody, violent rebellion. I think the future looks more like Tank Girl than Idiocracy.

Hoover literally saved millions of lives.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:56

Lightning Knight: Feb 24, 2012; Pray for Answer

Party Plane Jones posted:

https://twitter.com/carolleonnig/status/1189737412899020802?s=21

I wonder what�s the over/under on how many times he�s begged world leaders to let him build a new hotel there or come stay at his hotel.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:57

The Glumslinger: Sep 24, 2008; Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?; Hair Elf

https://twitter.com/xmasape/status/...ingawful.com%2F

# ? Oct 31, 2019 06:58

nine-gear crow: Aug 10, 2013

The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/xmasape/status/...ingawful.com%2F

USPOL Fall: We got some rear end in a top hat in the loving White House right now

# ? Oct 31, 2019 07:06

FronzelNeekburm: Jun 1, 2001; STOP, MORTTIME

Amazing Zimmo posted:

https://twitter.com/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/1189722406170103808

I thought we called the rapist and mass murderer "President of the United States" :confused:

# ? Oct 31, 2019 08:21

Herstory Begins Now: Aug 5, 2003; SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Better audio

https://mobile.twitter.com/KerrrryC/status/1189727494049390592

Bread and circuses

Of course they cut off food stamps so no bread and he looks like he lost the circuses

# ? Oct 31, 2019 08:34

CubanMissile: Apr 22, 2003; Of Hulks and Spider-Men

Google Butt posted:

jrs beard is so loving poo poo

I�m actually pretty surprised his dad even lets him have a beard.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 08:49

Old Kentucky Shark: May 25, 2012; If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.

Otteration posted:

Yep, impeachment will likely happen. Poke the Senate; they have phones/email/twit/and probably telegraph operators too.

Impeachment is a simple majority vote that doesn't require any Republican support. They can't not impeach at this point; even if public support wasn't already at over 50%, and the evidence wasn't already pretty damning and Trump hadn't literally admitted to doing it on live television, after a certain point the whole thing just takes on its own momentum where it has to be seen through because you need to justify the effort you've already put into it.

Predictit currently has impeachment at a 78% chance, which means there's money sitting on the table because it should be 90%+.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 09:50

TulliusCicero: Jul 29, 2017

luxury handset posted:

why are you comparing trump to taft? taft was pretty ok president, not great but not a fuckup either

if it's because taft was notoriously fat, he was able to not only joke about his weight but used it in his campaign to project a neighborly character

He also lost a bunch of weight later ( he was depressed in the White House because he really only ran because Teddy Roosevelt told him to, only to betray him politically later, which hurt Taft deeply because he considered Teddy a friend) :smith:

He then became the only President to become a Supreme Court Justice. Taft deserves a better wrap than " :lol:

he fat"

# ? Oct 31, 2019 10:35

ManBoyChef: Aug 1, 2019; Deadbeat Dad

Data Graham posted:

Just from a salesmanship standpoint you'd think he'd have absorbed somewhere along the 70-year line that if you talk solely in superlatives you just make your mark less likely to trust what you're saying. Nothing can be that good!

... Though I guess there'll always be a certain kind of mark who is attracted to a person like him, with power and charisma (of a sort) and a too-good-to-be-true story to tell, and who will happily lap it up because it seems at first to be panning out, and eventually you're in too deep to remember that you once knew it was a grift.

turns out its about 30% of people.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 10:58

Kafka Esq.: Jan 1, 2005; "If you ever even think about calling me anything but 'The Crab' I will go so fucking crab on your ass you won't even see what crab'd your crab" -The Crab(TM)

Herstory Begins Now posted:

Bread and circuses

Of course they cut off food stamps so no bread and he looks like he lost the circuses

There are pretzels at baseball games, right?

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:05

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

TulliusCicero posted:

He also lost a bunch of weight later ( he was depressed in the White House because he really only ran because Teddy Roosevelt told him to, only to betray him politically later, which hurt Taft deeply because he considered Teddy a friend)

He then became the only President to become a Supreme Court Justice. Taft deserves a better wrap than " he fat"

He was a better President than he was a justice.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:16

NewMars: Mar 10, 2013

Kafka Esq. posted:

There are pretzels at baseball games, right?

If a barrage of pretzels manages to knock him unconscious we could call them "Whitey Whackers."

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:19

ShuckyDucky: Jun 19, 2008; Quack Quack

https://twitter.com/katierogers/status/1188924605672624131

Good news, guys. The classified dog's name is no longer classified, and she's coming to the White House!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1189762942004289536

Who's a good boy?

Safe travels Conan, safe travels.

ShuckyDucky fucked around with this message at 11:33 on Oct 31, 2019

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:22

friendbot2000: May 1, 2011

cops blow up a innocent families house in pursuit of a suspect. family receives nothing in compensation

So the police can blow up your home and only give you 5k in rental assistance as compensation. I wonder what insurance policy is needed to protect against pig incursions?

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:27

ManBoyChef: Aug 1, 2019; Deadbeat Dad

friendbot2000 posted:

cops blow up a innocent families house in pursuit of a suspect. family receives nothing in compensation

So the police can blow up your home and only give you 5k in rental assistance as compensation. I wonder what insurance policy is needed to protect against pig incursions?

paywall man. can you copy it?

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:30

Captain Invictus: Apr 5, 2005; Try reading some manga!; Clever Betty

ManBoyChef posted:

paywall man. can you copy it?

typical "cops get away with anything without any accountability" poo poo. blew up someone's house because a shoplifter who took some shirts and a belt from a walmart was hiding there.

quote:

When they were finished, it looked as though the Greenwood Village, Colo., police had blasted rockets through the house.

Projectiles were still lodged in the walls. Glass and wooden paneling crumbled on the ground below the gaping holes, and inside, the family�s belongings and furniture appeared thrashed in a heap of insulation and drywall. Leo Lech, who rented the home to his son, thought it looked like al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden�s compound after the raid that killed him.

But now it was just a neighborhood crime scene, the suburban home where an armed Walmart shoplifting suspect randomly barricaded himself after fleeing the store on a June afternoon in 2015. For 19 hours, the suspect holed up in a bathroom as a SWAT team fired gas munition and 40-millimeter rounds through the windows, drove an armored vehicle through the doors, tossed flash-bang grenades inside and used explosives to blow out the walls.

The suspect was captured alive, but the home was utterly destroyed, eventually condemned by the City of Greenwood Village.

That left Leo Lech�s son, John Lech � who lived there with his girlfriend and her 9-year-old son � without a home. The city refused to compensate the Lech family for their losses but offered $5,000 in temporary rental assistance and for the insurance deductible.

Now, after the Leches sued, a federal appeals court has decided what else the city owes the Lech family for destroying their house more than four years ago: nothing.

On Tuesday, a three-judge panel for the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit unanimously ruled that the city is not required to compensate the Lech family for their lost home because it was destroyed by police while they were trying to enforce the law, rather than taken by eminent domain.

The Lechs had sued under the Fifth Amendment�s Takings Clause, which guarantees citizens compensation if their property is seized by the government for public use. But the court said that Greenwood Village was acting within its �police power� when it damaged the house, which the court said doesn�t qualify as a �taking� under the Fifth Amendment. The court acknowledged that this may seem �unfair,� but when police have to protect the public, they can�t be �burdened with the condition� that they compensate whomever is damaged by their actions along the way.

�It just goes to show that they can blow up your house, throw you out on the streets and say, �See you later. Deal with it,� � Leo Lech said in an interview with The Washington Post on Tuesday. �What happened to us should never happen in this country, ever.�

Leo Lech said he is considering appealing to the U.S. Supreme Court. Police must be forced to draw the line at some point, he said � preferably before a house is gutted � and be held accountable if innocent bystanders lose everything as a result of the actions of law enforcement.

In a statement to The Post, a spokeswoman for Greenwood Village said the city never refused to help the Lechs, saying the family was �very well insured� and refused the $5,000 assistance for out-of-pocket expenses before insurance kicked in. The spokeswoman, Melissa Gallegos, applauded the 10th Circuit�s ruling.

�The house was being used as a barricade, and the damage done to it was to remove the barricade and get the gunman out without any loss of life," Gallegos said. "That is not a use of another�s property under eminent domain, but a use of another�s property during a police emergency.�

In June 2015, the standoff at Lech�s suburban Denver home captivated and alarmed the public, as their house at the end of the street, one located by a baseball field complex and a park, suddenly turned into a quasi-war zone.

The suspect, Robert Jonathan Seacat, had stolen a shirt and a couple of belts from a Walmart in neighboring Aurora, Colo., and then fled in a Lexus, according to a police affidavit. A police officer pursued him in a high-speed chase until Seacat parked his car near a light rail station, hopped a nearby fence leading to the interstate, and then crossed five lanes of traffic on foot. He climbed the fence on the other side � and then, shortly thereafter, came upon the Lech residence.

A 9-year-old boy, John Lech�s girlfriend�s son, was home alone at the time, waiting for his mom to return from the grocery store, Lech said. He told police he was watching YouTube videos in his room when he heard the alarm trip, according to the affidavit. He emerged to find a man walking up the stairs, holding a gun. �He said, �I don�t want to hurt anybody. I just want to get away,' " Lech said. Minutes later, the boy walked out of the house unharmed.

Seacat then began searching the house for car keys. But by the time he got in the car parked in Lech�s garage, police had pulled into the driveway. Seacat fired a shot at them through the garage, the affidavit says.

Thus began the 19-hour standoff.

�They proceed to destroy the house � room by room, by room, by room,� Lech said. �This is one guy with a handgun. This guy was sleeping. This guy was eating. This guy was just hanging out in this house. I mean, they proceeded to blow up the entire house.�

SWAT officers attempted to enter the home on one occasion but retreated after believing they heard Seacat fire several rounds. After other tactics, including tear gas, robots and police negotiations, repeatedly failed, SWAT officers tried again to enter the home at 8:21 the next morning. They found him holed up in a bathroom with a stash of drugs, where he was disarmed and arrested.

When the Lech family was allowed back on the property to retrieve their belongings, they were aghast at what they found.

John Lech, his girlfriend and her son moved in with Leo Lech and his wife, who lived 30 miles away, requiring John to change jobs. The $5,000 offered by the city �was insulting,� Leo Lech said.

His expenses to rebuild the house and replace all its contents cost him nearly $400,000, he said. While insurance did cover structural damage initially, his son did not have renter�s insurance and so insurance did not cover replacement of the home�s contents, and he says he is still in debt today from loans he took out.

�This has ruined our lives,� he said.

Gallegos stressed that any large expenses Lech incurred are because he chose to do more than necessary, and chose to �repour the foundation that wasn�t damaged, and [build] a bigger better house where the old one stood.� Lech insisted starting from scratch was necessary.

Previously, police have defended their actions during the standoff.

�My mission is to get that individual out unharmed and make sure my team and everyone else around including the community goes home unharmed,� Greenwood Village Police Commander Dustin Varney said in 2015, KUSA reported. �Sometimes that means property gets damaged, and I am sorry for that.�

State and federal courts have ruled differently in cases involving innocent homeowners caught in deadly police raids, although the 10th Circuit was more persuaded by courts ruling in police�s favor.

Lech�s lawyers pointed to a 1991 Minnesota case in which the state Supreme Court sided with a woman whose house was damaged by police with tear gas as they sought to apprehend a suspect. In a 1980 Houston case, the Texas Supreme Court sided with a couple whose home was badly damaged as police sought to apprehend three suspects who barricaded themselves inside.

In that case, the Texas court turned up its nose at the principle the 10th Circuit stuck to so closely in its ruling: that unless a government�s action is clearly labeled �eminent domain,� citizens aren�t entitled to compensation if the police destroy their property as a matter of business.

�This court has moved beyond the earlier notion that the government�s duty to pay for taking property rights is excused by labeling the taking as an exercise of police powers,� the Texas court wrote at the time.

Today, the Leches� Greenwood Village home has been rebuilt. Lech says he is dipping into his 401(k) to afford the legal battle but intends to continue as long as he is able. He says he thinks he has too much bad luck to make it to the Supreme Court but believes that someone else like him will get there.

�This can�t go on in this country,� he said. �There has to be a limit. There has to be accountability.�

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SchrodingersCat: Aug 23, 2011

TulliusCicero posted:

Taft was really not that bad of a guy besides being fat and jolly, and Hoover was a great humanitarian privately, just a really lovely President

Compare him to Buchanan or Harding or something

I was thinking of Harding and said Taft. I actually like Taft

This is why I shouldn't post late at night while high on cold medicine.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:37

funeral home DJ: Apr 21, 2003; Pillbug

Trump, who famously hates dogs, is now pretending to like them to see if he can get people on his side.

You know, he could shut down the child concentration camps, help the Kurds, revoke the tariffs, get rid of his crooked tax cuts and insist on fixing healthcare and infrastructure in the US, or hell, even take an honest stab at trying to offset climate change, and the approval ratings would rocket up because he�s a white male Republican and Americans are bred to forgive white male fascists. But no, he just pretends to love dogs.

Trump really sucks at the conman game.

Edit: I read the article above about the police destroying that family�s home and the only people that are reliably worse than Trump are cops. Jesus Christ.

funeral home DJ fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Oct 31, 2019

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:39

Gort: Aug 18, 2003; Good day what ho cup of tea

loving hell. It probably cost millions in the end to capture that shoplifter.

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:40

Lightning Knight: Feb 24, 2012; Pray for Answer

Gort posted:

loving hell. It probably cost millions in the end to capture that shoplifter.

Protect and Serve. :patriot:

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:51

kartikeya: Mar 17, 2009

TulliusCicero posted:

He then became the only President to become a Supreme Court Justice. Taft deserves a better wrap than " he fat"

It's always fun when this thread goes on a tear about how fat people are horrible disgusting monsters only fit for ridicule who are about to keel over dead any moment now, but no it's okay really because they generally only bring it up when they're talking about Bad People. Trump is vain, you see. That makes it okay.

(I agree with you, this poo poo just makes me tired.)

# ? Oct 31, 2019 11:58

Cable Guy: Jul 18, 2005; I don't expect any trouble, but we'll be handing these out later...; Slippery Tilde

ManBoyChef posted:

paywall man. can you copy it?

Captain Invictus has the :words:

I'll do the pic...

# ? Oct 31, 2019 12:01

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

quote:

The court acknowledged that this may seem �unfair,� but when police have to protect the public, they can�t be �burdened with the condition� that they compensate whomever is damaged by their actions along the way.

Wow, what a piece of poo poo judge.

quote:

�My mission is to get that individual out unharmed and make sure my team and everyone else around including the community goes home unharmed,� Greenwood Village Police Commander Dustin Varney said in 2015, KUSA reported. �Sometimes that means property gets damaged, and I am sorry for that.�

Destroying someone financially is not ensuring 'the community' is unharmed.

Where the gently caress are all the people who go nuts when property is damaged in protest? Our police system is so unbearably broken.

skylined! fucked around with this message at 12:13 on Oct 31, 2019

# ? Oct 31, 2019 12:10

teen witch: Oct 9, 2012

kartikeya posted:

It's always fun when this ~~thread~~ misery hell planet goes on a tear about how fat people are horrible disgusting monsters only fit for ridicule who are about to keel over dead any moment now, but no it's okay really because they generally only bring it up when they're talking about Bad People. Trump is vain, you see. That makes it okay.

(I agree with you, this poo poo just makes me tired.)

Fixed that for you.

There are thousands of worse things someone can be than being fat. Being a goon, for example.

But yeah, it�s a dumb thing to focus on and makes people oftentimes feel loving terrible for existing.

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