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Meatball
Mar 2, 2003

That's a Spicy Meatball

Pillbug

WorldsStongestNerd posted:

If he didn't have hostages then yes. What most sane departments around the world do is stake out a person's house or location and ambush them when they leave the building. Thats the way you nab a cult leader or militia leader. You hide and wait for them to go get the mail or go get groceries.

But then they couldn't use that badass apc they got! Think of the cops(who want to pretend they're in a Steven Segal action movie)

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The Sean
Apr 17, 2005

Am I handsome now?


ewiley posted:

I'm not exactly trolling

Not exactly



edit: tax

https://i.imgur.com/Y3afDKt.mp4

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Meatball posted:

But then they couldn't use that badass apc they got! Think of the cops(who want to pretend they're in a Steven Segal action movie)

I mean that’s also copying real life too now, since Segal destroyed a home and killed a bunch of chickens by driving a tank into it.

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit
The real important thing here is that we make sure that none of us are unfair to police. If we are going to criticize an authority figure we must be incredibly nuanced, specific, accurate, and as gentle as possible, otherwise it would be completely unfair to the organization with a state-sanctioned monopoly on violence.

And if the homeowner had taken proper responsibility for his life and taken a modicum of precautions against this situation, then the entire thing would have blown over as a nothingburger.

When you really think about it this family has no one to blame but themselves.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

kidkissinger posted:

Even if you think it's necessary to blow up houses to enforce misdemeanor level laws, why the gently caress does that preclude compensating victims?

Because then the cops will be preoccupied with financial liability that they will let shoplifters get away with some Walmart belts, or something like that

i am harry
Oct 14, 2003

ewiley posted:

Should they have just walked away?

Stole a belt and a shirt from wal mart. Yes, they should have walked away. gently caress it just pay for the belt and shirt and then they wouldn't even have needed to offer the guy $5000.

Phobic Nest
Oct 2, 2013

You Are My Sunshine
Today I witnessed someone getting called a bad faith poster for not wanting cops to blow up their residence.

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Koalas March posted:

Linds has reportedly been escorting to fund her lifestyle (since she's horrible to work with and an addict very much not in recovery anymore) for years now.

There's a video of her high af wandering the streets in.. I wanna say Greece but it might be somewhere in the ME, trying to steal someone's child

That makes much more sense then, I had no idea. :O

DandyLion
Jun 24, 2010
disrespectul Deciever

i am harry posted:

Stole a belt and a shirt from wal mart. Yes, they should have walked away. gently caress it just pay for the belt and shirt and then they wouldn't even have needed to offer the guy $5000.

I mean, really this whole issue is fundamentally based in US healthcare woes, specifically how unaffordable it all is. When the PD has to finance $10k a year in anger management per officer, it just becomes cheaper to let them rough up some minorities/kids once a year with a half-amount payout. The cops get the care they need, the city saves money, and there's the added bonus of community outreach.

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Going to take me a while to re-read my homeowner's insurance policy to see if it covers "local police, national guard or branch of armed services utilizing mechanical infantry, air, UAV, ground or sea support and/or ballistics to detain criminal seeking refuge within domicile wherein catastrophic damage is incurred".

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

ewiley posted:

Yay I have PJ's seal of approval now!

I'm not exactly trolling, but there's an awful lot of just jumping on the ACAB bandwagon, instead of, hey maybe there's more to it than that. I immediately get jumped on by people not reading the article and expressing the worst about a situation that didn't happen (that the kid was in the house and the police started firing immediately)


Ok so now the argument is that cops don't owe the guy whose house they destroyed anything because...some other D&D posters didn't read an article?

Or is this you agreeing that the court's ruling was bullshit and saving face by pointing out other people were wrong too, because I am okay with that.

punishedkissinger
Sep 20, 2017

Barry Foster posted:

Thank god the police shot the place up to smithereens, that shoplifter might have shot the place up to smithereens

What's the over/under on ewiley being all in on the drone war?

Prester Jane
Nov 4, 2008

by Hand Knit

kidkissinger posted:

What's the over/under on ewiley being all in on the drone war?

Depends on if a state-designated authority figure told him if it was good or not.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen

kidkissinger posted:

What's the over/under on ewiley being all in on the drone war?

4.5

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi

Fritz Coldcockin posted:

I wouldn't count on NPR to deliver an unbiased or accurate read on anything; they are skewing hard right these days.

Has anyone written about this/looked in to it? I’ve noticed many of their stories/podcasts such as planet money have had a free market bent over the last few years.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Residency Evil posted:

Has anyone written about this/looked in to it? I’ve noticed many of their stories/podcasts such as planet money have had a free market bent over the last few years.

They've taken a shitload of money from the Koch Foundation; that's pretty much where this new outlook is coming from.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

skylined! posted:

Going to take me a while to re-read my homeowner's insurance policy to see if it covers "local police, national guard or branch of armed services utilizing mechanical infantry, air, UAV, ground or sea support and/or ballistics to detain criminal seeking refuge within domicile wherein catastrophic damage is incurred".

Well according to the article the house was insured, but the belongings weren't because the son was a renter

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
NPR also receives public funding and has to appear bipartisan/fair to keep the gop from trying to pull all funding.

Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
whenever NPR talks about amazon it's pretty much a gleeful handjob

there was some fluff recently about self driving trucks and how amazon will use this to improve their service to your door!!!

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

skylined! posted:

NPR also receives public funding and has to appear bipartisan/fair to keep the gop from trying to pull all funding.

That’s because the Overton window has somehow gone to this hosed up area where someone quietly reading facts on the news ihas a “liberal bias”. So now they have to make up outright lies like Fox News to make centrists and ultra-right dickheads feel good.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



I like the "dear friend will you please withdraw your impeachment stuff?"

"Naw bro"

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

luxury handset posted:

there was some fluff recently about self driving trucks and how amazon will use this to improve their service to your door!!!

meanwhile, in reality

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008

Cops blew up half a neighborhood in Philly once to clear out “protesters” nice to know law enforcement has near unlimited destructive power that would make The Avengers jealous

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

skylined! posted:

Going to take me a while to re-read my homeowner's insurance policy to see if it covers "local police, national guard or branch of armed services utilizing mechanical infantry, air, UAV, ground or sea support and/or ballistics to detain criminal seeking refuge within domicile wherein catastrophic damage is incurred".

It likely won't, because those situations aren't considered "sudden and accidental".

Phenotype
Jul 24, 2007

You must defeat Sheng Long to stand a chance.



skylined! posted:

So you think a militarized police force using explosives and APCs to destroy property in an effort to flush out petty thieves is a symptom of the prevalence of.... gun ownership? What the gently caress?

Well, it's probably part of it. Police have this confrontational, antagonistic behavior because they've been trained that anyone could start shooting at them at any time. If they weren't constantly afraid of armed citizens, if gun violence wasn't so prevalent, they wouldn't be blowing up someone's house to catch a criminal because they wouldn't be working in this atmosphere of batshit paranoia.

Retro42
Jun 27, 2011


Watching the floor debate on the resolution right now.

Holy poo poo Gym Jordan DOES own a suit coat.

BigBallChunkyTime
Nov 25, 2011

Kyle Schwarber: World Series hero, Beefy Lad, better than you.

Illegal Hen
"Paper Lady" is leaving Fox.

https://twitter.com/brianstelter/status/1189864644569128960?s=19

https://twitter.com/LisPower1/status/1189884220694499329?s=19

Nocturtle
Mar 17, 2007

skylined! posted:

NPR also receives public funding and has to appear bipartisan/fair to keep the gop from trying to pull all funding.

Publicly funded broadcasters in other countries are following this same trend, such as the CBC in Canada and BBC in the UK. A large part of it is as you say an attempt to appear "fair" and not disproportionately critical of conservatives burning everything down, because they can and have had their funding cut significantly. IMO the broader news media has an impact as well, as even a truly "neutral" broadcaster will appear stridently leftist compared to the explicitly conservative viewpoints that dominate for-profit media.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Baby Status: Not Mad

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1189897137984876545

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

Phenotype posted:

Well, it's probably part of it. Police have this confrontational, antagonistic behavior because they've been trained that anyone could start shooting at them at any time. If they weren't constantly afraid of armed citizens, if gun violence wasn't so prevalent, they wouldn't be blowing up someone's house to catch a criminal because they wouldn't be working in this atmosphere of batshit paranoia.

This line of thought lays the blame at citizens rather than the brutal authoritarian figures that enact violence against civilians. Police are not brutal because of the threat of The Gun, but certainly use that threat as an excuse to enact violence.

Solaris 2.0
May 14, 2008


We did....
...it is literally him blackmailing a foreign leader lol

It gets me every time that even the super dressed up “transcript” designed to make him look good instead makes him look guilty as gently caress.

I wonder what the unedited transcripts contain.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



I love that in his mind all his current troubles are because the entire country is refusing to read the transcript he released and keeps begging them to look at, just nobody's doing that

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Finally someone said it
https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1189902834092908545?s=19

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



I like that the Rs are cranky and powerless.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

My dude, you have no idea. I've been at UPS for 15 years and the stories I could tell about all the poo poo that has been happening in the shipping industry, hoo boy.

And a lot of those are BEFORE amazon. Nowadays it's just a loving circus every day. My work area used to do ~3.5-4.5k packages a day. Now it does 7-9k, sometimes 10k+, an easy quarter to third of that being amazon packages. It's absurd.

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

Well, on the upside, Rs are going really hard against process during the impeachment grandstanding. It's like listening to a reading of a QQCS thread full of backseat mods. There's just... nothing there. They have nothing.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Solaris 2.0 posted:

We did....
...it is literally him blackmailing a foreign leader lol

It gets me every time that even the super dressed up “transcript” designed to make him look good instead makes him look guilty as gently caress.

I wonder what the unedited transcripts contain.
He's living in a world of his own creation
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1189617635421376512

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



I DO NOT LIKE THINGS THAT I DONT THINK ARE FAIR. ME. ME ME ME.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
How cheap and dumb can this dumbass be?

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1189739280589053953

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ummel
Jun 17, 2002

<3 Lowtax

Fun Shoe

Those world series ads won't pay for themselves.

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