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A Buttery Pastry
Sep 4, 2011

Delicious and Informative!
:3:

Guavanaut posted:

:staredog:

What in the fresh hell is this? That's the type of take you see from the BNP types where "my oppression as a white working class person is not only more serious than the so called oppression that blacks and gays face, it's the only important oppression".

Like, oppression based on class does exist, like antisemitism does exist, but if you're going to pull "yup better ignore everyone else's poo poo, mine is the only oppression that matters" then loving hell.
I thought we had been over this. It's literally just "Corbyn is planning Holocaust 2.0", which would make "my issue is way bigger than your issue" a pretty fair position.

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

ThomasPaine posted:

Lol the absolute state of this hysterical garbage, she's worse than tweetman. Must admit that I do find it extremely funny if she's genuinely stressed to the point of mental breakdown over an 'existential threat' she and her pals made up but then huffed their own farts so long they developed terminal brainworms

https://twitter.com/Sara_Rose_G/status/1189871965416427520?s=19

Why the gently caress do you do to this to yourself

And to me

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Can anyone remember what the various Lib Dem positions on Brexit have been and when they flopped from one to the other? It would be useful for countering the idea of them being the party of remain or just generally the idea that they are in any way trustworthy (especially when they were asking for a referendum with no deal on the ballot).

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

SpaceCommie posted:

Got bored at work and I've been loving about with the getvoting.json to see what we can see ...

I apologise for the rushed code and typos etc but if you fancy a gander: http://www.spacecommie.co.uk/GetVotingDeepDive.nb.html

Holy gently caress

Trickjaw
Jun 23, 2005
Nadie puede dar lo que no tiene



Jessflaps funding nearly at £20k. I hate this world. Actually, is that legal. Dont you have to be able to prove provenance of funds?

I'll wet myself if she's committing electoral fraud. And not just because I'm on diaretics.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

It would make my year if Bibi goes to jail and Corbyn gets into No 10 despite his personal intervention over the past year.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




mfcrocker posted:

Holy gently caress



can you break down this graph for my uh, friend who's a moron and doesn't really understand data?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Necrothatcher posted:

can you break down this graph for my uh, friend who's a moron and doesn't really understand data?

It's under-representing the hill to climb in Lib Dem recommendations and perfectly accurate with the Labour ones.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

A Buttery Pastry posted:

I thought we had been over this. It's literally just "Corbyn is planning Holocaust 2.0", which would make "my issue is way bigger than your issue" a pretty fair position.
First they supported the Communists
And I complained
Because I was not a Communist

Then they supported the Socialists
And I complained
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they supported the trade unionists
And I complained
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they suddenly did an 180 on opposing discrimination and came for the Jews
This is a real thing
And should be taken seriously

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Basically, if a seat is

Tories 8000
Labour 7000


If it's a "Labour recommended" tactical vote, it will say it's only 1000 votes to flip.

If it's for Lib Dems, it will say something like "it's only 300 votes to flip!"

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Necrothatcher posted:

can you break down this graph for my uh, friend who's a moron and doesn't really understand data?
Yellow dots are lib dem. Red dots are labour. Vertical axis is actual difference from tories. Horizontal axis is getvoting.org's difference from tories. Note how red dots are perfectly aligned while yellow dots are all over the shop.

Debbie Does Dagon
Jul 8, 2005



Guavanaut posted:

#brexitriots and #BritainHasExploded both trending on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/markdavyd/status/1189843711997423616

No one knows what it like to be a dustbin, in Shaftesbury, with hooligans...

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Endorph posted:

Yellow dots are lib dem. Red dots are labour. Vertical axis is actual difference from tories. Horizontal axis is getvoting.org's difference from tories. Note how red dots are perfectly aligned while yellow dots are all over the shop.

So it's proof of data manipulation?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Necrothatcher posted:

So it's proof of data manipulation?

That's a horrible thing to say about innocent wishful thinking and then assuring people is the truth.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


LMAO

quote:

McDonald's apologizes for 'Sundae Bloody Sundae' advert

McDonald’s in Portugal has issued an apology after running an advert for dessert with wordplay based on one of the deadliest episodes in the history of the Troubles in Northern Ireland.

The fast-food giant advertised a Halloween-themed dessert called “Sundae Bloody Sundae.”

According to the Belfast Telegraph, a spokesperson for McDonald’s said the campaign “was intended as a celebration of Halloween, not as an insensitive reference to any historical event or to upset or insult anyone in any way. We sincerely apologise for any offense or distress this may have caused. All promotional material has been removed.”

The events of January 30, 1972 — when 13 people were killed (a 14th died some months later as a result of his injuries) after British soldiers opened fire on demonstrators at a civil rights march in Derry/Londonderry — have become known as “Bloody Sunday.”

The band U2 have a song called “Sunday Bloody Sunday.”

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Aramoro posted:

I'm not sure I follow exactly. You shouldn't call out TERF's because it doesn't directly affect you so it just looks like some sort of virtue signalling? I'm not trying to dig at you, just not sure I follow.

I mean, there is a thing where people pretend to care about someone's bigotry just as a way to bash them without actually caring about the issues, which is Bad. (I remember once a certain threadbanned poster mocking Wings Over Scotland's transphobia once, only to later be a similar rear end in a top hat in other threads about trans people.) As A Trans, so long as you can check with yourself that you are bringing it up out of it being a main source of your disgust at [person or people you're mocking] rather than just wanting to find some random thing to insult them with, I don't personally have an issue with it.

Promoting transphobia by relentlessly posting every transphobic thing a person says while trans people are around reading a thread is A Thing, but so long as you're not relentlessly posting nobody twitter randoms it's probably within the remit of the thread to bring attention to when prominent politicians are being shameless assholes.

The SNP's transphobia problem is interesting as, similar to a lot of issues that aren't independence, there's a split between different factions of the party, and the actual TERF contingent seems to be something of a minority. (Anyone actually close to the internal workings of the SNP feel free to expand on this.) Sturgeon herself seems to be in favour of trans rights, but is also willing to make noise and delay stuff to seem as if she's listening to the bigots. This might prevent big splits in the short term but at this stage looks more likely to disappoint both sides. The TERF lot see anything short of actively rolling back trans protections as a capitulation to the dastardly trans lobby, and as a member of the dastardly trans lobby myself it's obvious this is making their criticisms look legitimate when they could, y'know, actually make a stand on something, anything. Yea, verily, you were so focused on fighting the Tories that you didn't fight... The Tories Within. [dramatic music, lightning bolt]

superLINUS
Sep 28, 2005

"The real tragedy happened long before I came along"
Had a meeting last night to discuss election campaigning in our constituency. The election address alone will wipe out all our funds. And Leadsom has a 22,000 majority. And we have local elections in may which we can maybe nick a few seats. But won't with no money. gently caress.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

to make up for this callous oversight, we would like to offer a coupon for 9 milkshakes for 11 dollars

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
irl

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

ThomasPaine posted:

Lol the absolute state of this hysterical garbage, she's worse than tweetman. Must admit that I do find it extremely funny if she's genuinely stressed to the point of mental breakdown over an 'existential threat' she and her pals made up but then huffed their own farts so long they developed terminal brainworms

https://twitter.com/Sara_Rose_G/status/1189871965416427520?s=19

I can’t even begin to contemplate the cosmic horror that your twitter feed must be

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
I still can't tell if people are calling her Jo Swindon as a gag or if nobody has bothered to properly read the name of the leader of the liberal democrats

i can see why it won't seem worth the effort given how relevant she is to anything, admittedly

HJB
Feb 16, 2011

:swoon: I can't get enough of are Dan :swoon:

Angepain posted:

I still can't tell if people are calling her Jo Swindon as a gag or if nobody has bothered to properly read the name of the leader of the liberal democrats

i can see why it won't seem worth the effort given how relevant she is to anything, admittedly

One person did it because of autocorrect, everyone else decided it was a clever burn because of Carl of Swindon so started doing it as well.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem

Aramoro posted:

I'm not sure I follow exactly. You shouldn't call out TERF's because it doesn't directly affect you so it just looks like some sort of virtue signalling? I'm not trying to dig at you, just not sure I follow.

Tesseraction posted:

I believe they don't want to post news about the SNP being lovely TERFs in here because it means trans UKMTers have to read/experience it

somewhat that - I don’t know, it feels like I’m using trans people’s oppression to score easy points. i don’t normally mind easy points, but it feels ghoulish in this case - particularly with trans comrades who live in Scotland.

my Posting Brand has a kind of flippancy that makes me feel disrespectful. it might also be that it makes me genuinely angry and as such I struggle to post in jest about it, idk.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Thanks for reminding me to make my first bet since... well, the last election. Best I could find was 16/1 for an overall majority, so £340 for £20. If you fancy a flutter get in quick, I'm sure the odds will be shortening rapidly.

Now to find a seat calculator so I can take a punt on the UKMT spreadsheet. Suggested charity will be https://www.airserv.org/, the non-religious version of the MAF.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

superLINUS posted:

Had a meeting last night to discuss election campaigning in our constituency. The election address alone will wipe out all our funds. And Leadsom has a 22,000 majority. And we have local elections in may which we can maybe nick a few seats. But won't with no money. gently caress.

:rip:

Hopefully Northampton North can be flipped, there were 800 votes in it in 2017.

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

Aramoro posted:

Why do people need a website to tell them who to vote for? Like if Tories won your seat last time, vote for who came second if you want to be Tacticool about it.

you, a giant dummy: I'm going to vote for the party I want to win.

me, a tactical genius: I'm going to vote for whatever areyoualibertarian.biz spits out.

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

HJB posted:

One person did it because of autocorrect, everyone else decided it was a clever burn because of Carl of Swindon so started doing it as well.

Everyone who does this poo poo is totally oblivious to it being the exact same energy as ZaNuLieBore daily mail commentators.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

RockyB posted:

Thanks for reminding me to make my first bet since... well, the last election. Best I could find was 16/1 for an overall majority, so £340 for £20. If you fancy a flutter get in quick, I'm sure the odds will be shortening rapidly.

Now to find a seat calculator so I can take a punt on the UKMT spreadsheet. Suggested charity will be https://www.airserv.org/, the non-religious version of the MAF.

It's probably a good time to put a bet on a Labour Minority or Majority with a view to laying it off near election day, but most bets I'd suggest people wait.

(Brexit Party 0 seats is the easiest poo poo I'll have a big wad on that)

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

ThomasPaine posted:

Lol the absolute state of this hysterical garbage, she's worse than tweetman. Must admit that I do find it extremely funny if she's genuinely stressed to the point of mental breakdown over an 'existential threat' she and her pals made up but then huffed their own farts so long they developed terminal brainworms

https://twitter.com/Sara_Rose_G/status/1189871965416427520?s=19

She blocked me for asking what she actually thinks is going to happen if Corbyn gets into No 10. It's weird how they keep on dropping references to Hitler, the Holocaust and various pogroms but when it comes to talking about the actuality of what they expect Corbyn to do they can't quite articulate what they expect to happen.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


B-b-b-b-but billionaires pay millions in tax!!

https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1189857638160293888?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

RockyB posted:

Thanks for reminding me to make my first bet since... well, the last election. Best I could find was 16/1 for an overall majority, so £340 for £20. If you fancy a flutter get in quick, I'm sure the odds will be shortening rapidly.

Now to find a seat calculator so I can take a punt on the UKMT spreadsheet. Suggested charity will be https://www.airserv.org/, the non-religious version of the MAF.
Might drop a cheeky tenner on Brexit Party majority because there's places in the Caribbean where you can buy residency permits for a few grand.

Doccykins
Feb 21, 2006

RockyB posted:

Thanks for reminding me to make my first bet since... well, the last election. Best I could find was 16/1 for an overall majority, so £340 for £20. If you fancy a flutter get in quick, I'm sure the odds will be shortening rapidly.

Now to find a seat calculator so I can take a punt on the UKMT spreadsheet. Suggested charity will be https://www.airserv.org/, the non-religious version of the MAF.

they're already shortening, i got 22/1 on Tuesday

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

superLINUS posted:

Had a meeting last night to discuss election campaigning in our constituency. The election address alone will wipe out all our funds. And Leadsom has a 22,000 majority. And we have local elections in may which we can maybe nick a few seats. But won't with no money. gently caress.

You're allowed to collect for your CLP directly and now is going to be a good time for it as the people's coffers are wide open right now.

Do some social media requests for donations to the country at large, speak to large Momentum groups near you, organise a canvassing and fundraising day with a ticketed event in the evening.

That Italian Guy
Jul 25, 2012

We need the equivalent of the shrimp = small pastry avatar, but for ambulances and their mysteries now.

The best part is that, in 99% of any zombie apocalypse scenarios, the zombies are the smokescreen and the real problem are the humans. It almost rhymes.

lemonadesweetheart
May 27, 2010

You guys are mean, it sounds like she has that brain tick thing.

Purple Prince
Aug 20, 2011

mfcrocker posted:

It's probably a good time to put a bet on a Labour Minority or Majority with a view to laying it off near election day, but most bets I'd suggest people wait.

(Brexit Party 0 seats is the easiest poo poo I'll have a big wad on that)

On Betfair you can set odds and wait for a taker. Took market odds for no overall majority and Labour, with a bet on Tories at 5:1. If odds shorten to 5:1 against Tories I am guaranteed a profit.

Braggart
Nov 10, 2011

always thank the rock hider

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

I just looked up the Filton and Bradley Stoke MP. Check this Tory oval office out:


“In May 2019 a five-year investigation helped to expose slave-like wages, abuse of tenants and workers, and squalid conditions in both commercial and residential properties at a company owned by Lopresti's family.[31] Those involved were legally restricted under the Modern Slavery Act, resulting in the owners no longer being allowed to be employers, with investigations and possible further legal action being considered to deal with the low quality of housing offered by the family.[32]”

That seat may be gettable, he’s got a 4K majority.

:monocle: I say old chap, that's a bit on the nose don't you think? If you want to be a politician you'll have to run that sort of thing through a shell company or two.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

https://twitter.com/UThuganomic/status/1189883952812711937

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Gonzo McFee posted:

She blocked me for asking what she actually thinks is going to happen if Corbyn gets into No 10. It's weird how they keep on dropping references to Hitler, the Holocaust and various pogroms but when it comes to talking about the actuality of what they expect Corbyn to do they can't quite articulate what they expect to happen.
This is the most infuriating bit. There's been all these 'antisemitism scandals' where Corbyn has invited known antisemites to say that the Holocaust was cool and also never happened, and then they get quietly dropped when it's discovered that they were Jewish and/or badly misquoted, so they think everyone knows that Corbyn is an antisemite but they can never put any detail on why or how without running into "a Jewish Labour group invited an old Jewish man to talk about Judaism while Cobyn was in the same building" and so it must always be kept as the Unknown Threat.

lemonadesweetheart posted:

You guys are mean, it sounds like she has that brain tick thing.
They're spiders, not ticks.

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mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Pantsmaster Bill posted:

I just looked up the Filton and Bradley Stoke MP. Check this Tory oval office out:


“In May 2019 a five-year investigation helped to expose slave-like wages, abuse of tenants and workers, and squalid conditions in both commercial and residential properties at a company owned by Lopresti's family.[31] Those involved were legally restricted under the Modern Slavery Act, resulting in the owners no longer being allowed to be employers, with investigations and possible further legal action being considered to deal with the low quality of housing offered by the family.[32]”

That seat may be gettable, he’s got a 4K majority.

Bristol Momentum is targeting the hell out of Filton and Bradders, obviously JCorbz is there Saturday and they're starting doorknocking on Sunday

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